Disqualification

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I'm fed up with being disqualified because too many people have deliberately crashed into me. What makes it worse is that the system believes you are a bad driver so the next race you enter you get disqualified after the first car hits you. This is totally unfair, the system should recognise who's doing the crashing!
 
Outside of the known bump drafting issues, you usually have to be getting really into it with another driver if they can DQ you out of a race. You might want to stay away from the excessively reckless drivers rather than sharing the corners with them.
 
I think nobody in here is okay with that, the only thing he's (very wisely) saying, is that the best thing to do is to stay out of trouble. Don't risk everything, including getting DQed in fighting for position with someone who doesn't care about any other drivers driving close to him.
The wise thing to do is to back off, follow the opponent and if he's slower than you are, wait for the opportunity to overtake cleanly.
 
Just try getting in a race with a bunch of idiots. At some stage you'll see a message 'The next contact will lead to disqualification'. Then bang! You're out.
 
I’ve only had it happen once, it was on a Tokyo track, I ended up with over 1 minute in penalties after a bad run and then got DQ’d and a DR reset for my troubles. Sport mode isn’t like GT League, even the slightest of contacts results in SR reduction, even if they hit you. The game expects you to see it coming and avoid it regardless of who’s fault it is in most cases. Try running a few races from the back and stay there, collect some SR and get back into the cleaner rooms before you start “racing” again. :)
 
So you're fine with the fact that they drivr badly and you get disqualified?
You can't change the behaviour of others. You need to figure out how to avoid these people in future. Keep an eye on your mirrors and rader. Delay your turn in if someone is going for an outlandish divebomb. Let them slide off the track. Save your own overtaking until your opponent makes a big mistake or aim to pass when exiting corners or on the straights following corners. Don't attempt any overtakes in medium speed or fast corners. Above all don't be afraid to sacrifice DR to build SR. It's not a perfect system but racing against other SR S drivers gives you the best chance of racing against clean(ish) drivers.

There has been a small number of threads created by people experiencing the same problem as you. You need to concentrate on getting away from the DQ notice as soon as possible or you'll keep going around in circles. If you can upload a video you will get better advice from the community. This is an easily solvable issue but it can't be solved by complaining about others, no matter how awful they are.
 
So you're fine with the fact that they drivr badly and you get disqualified?
Among the advice given in the Racing Etiquette videos is to watch out for, and avoid, other people who "become a missile".

It's not really a question of being fine with it - and yes, it is a little OTT in that someone can keep bump drafting you and generating a load of SR Downs for you (quick tip, if you think they're about to do that again, stamp on the clutch to put the car in neutral just before impact; you'll ghost and they'll go right through you - now the boot is on the other foot...) - but it being part of the intent of SR.
 
Among the advice given in the Racing Etiquette videos is to watch out for, and avoid, other people who "become a missile".

It's not really a question of being fine with it - and yes, it is a little OTT in that someone can keep bump drafting you and generating a load of SR Downs for you (quick tip, if you think they're about to do that again, stamp on the clutch to put the car in neutral just before impact; you'll ghost and they'll go right through you - now the boot is on the other foot...) - but it being part of the intent of SR.

I wish I could learn to avoid those people who become a missile. Unless PD add a jump feature similar to Speed Racers Mach 5 that is virtually impossible, especially mid-field, someone goes into grass and back across track perpendicular you can try to brake but odds are you will just collect more penalties from cars behind who do not slow. I will never understand the wisdom of getting -SR for someone bump drafting you, how is that the leading drivers fault??
 
This is the problem with playing the game. You are inviting 15 other people into your living room with you. The politest way I can put it about those other 15 people, is that "some of them will not share the same values as you".

For example last night I missed a braking point at top speed, caused by me focusing on where they were and realizing that 150 board I had just passed, was actually a 50, it would have been so easy to just use the 3 cars ahead of me as a brake probably would have passed all 3, but I deliberately put myself in the barrier so as not to hit them. I appreciate not everyone is going to do that though.

This is actually one of the friendliest forums I have been on, and I imagine a lot of people on here are a pleasure to race against, however, most racers are there for a bit of fun and damn the consequence, a bit of bumping around is probably fun for them, as my mate put it when talking abut another online game with etiquette rules, "for a newbie its up to you to game your way away from those people".
 
So you're fine with the fact that they drivr badly and you get disqualified?

I've never been disqualified but I also don't mix it up with whack jobs. If someone is driving erratically I either stay ahead or directly behind them.

Ahead of them I usually run late apex lines which usually causes them to aggressively attack the early apex and overshoot the exit. They are trying to dive bomb but it doesn't work if you're not there to get hit. Actually, I did that a bunch on Nurburgring GP yesterday, a lot of aggressive drivers were using my brake lights as their brake indicator and would freak out with how deep I was dragging them into a turn. So they would always hit their apex early with way too much speed and unable to retain position on the inside. Even if they pass you, it's usually an easy pass on the inside exit to regain position and they don't even have the traction to turn back into you. I didn't even realize I was doing it half of the time until I reviewed the replay and noticed how many drivers were fading too far wide on their turns behind me. These people were 1 second faster than me on the board but they just kept sabotaging themselves by driving too aggressively and off of the optimum line.

Behind an aggressive driver, you just stay tight and pressure them into an error. You're sort of using them like an offensive blocker as they bulldoze and fight forward while you continually feather and lift off of the throttle to stay out of the fight and right behind them. You will usually be drafting and moving faster than them so you have to be mindful of not rear ending them or dive bombing on the inside. Usually their fighting will put them out of position for a major turn (right before a long straight) and you can easily pass them.

If they are excessively aggressive you can intentionally put the nose of your car right along the middle of their car as you approach a turn. Resist the urge to pass and just keep the nose of your car hovering right in that sweet spot. If they try to slam the door and turn in on you they'll pit themselves and get punted off of the track with just a slight SR drop for you and no penalty.

Looking back, I know that sounds like I'm mixing it up with bad drivers but these are really just simple defensive tactics. Against a solid clean driver they're useless and these same moves would simply gift the pass to the faster driver without any incident. My late apex line allows for clean inside overtakes by better drivers and my pit tactic forfeits a potential pass on the inside when they're used against good drivers.
 
I've never been disqualified but I also don't mix it up with whack jobs. If someone is driving erratically I either stay ahead or directly behind them.

Ahead of them I usually run late apex lines which usually causes them to aggressively attack the early apex and overshoot the exit. They are trying to dive bomb but it doesn't work if you're not there to get hit. Actually, I did that a bunch on Nurburgring GP yesterday, a lot of aggressive drivers were using my brake lights as their brake indicator and would freak out with how deep I was dragging them into a turn. So they would always hit their apex early with way too much speed and unable to retain position on the inside. Even if they pass you, it's usually an easy pass on the inside exit to regain position and they don't even have the traction to turn back into you. I didn't even realize I was doing it half of the time until I reviewed the replay and noticed how many drivers were fading too far wide on their turns behind me. These people were 1 second faster than me on the board but they just kept sabotaging themselves by driving too aggressively and off of the optimum line.

Behind an aggressive driver, you just stay tight and pressure them into an error. You're sort of using them like an offensive blocker as they bulldoze and fight forward while you continually feather and lift off of the throttle to stay out of the fight and right behind them. You will usually be drafting and moving faster than them so you have to be mindful of not rear ending them or dive bombing on the inside. Usually their fighting will put them out of position for a major turn (right before a long straight) and you can easily pass them.

If they are excessively aggressive you can intentionally put the nose of your car right along the middle of their car as you approach a turn. Resist the urge to pass and just keep the nose of your car hovering right in that sweet spot. If they try to slam the door and turn in on you they'll pit themselves and get punted off of the track with just a slight SR drop for you and no penalty.

Looking back, I know that sounds like I'm mixing it up with bad drivers but these are really just simple defensive tactics. Against a solid clean driver they're useless and these same moves would simply gift the pass to the faster driver without any incident. My late apex line allows for clean inside overtakes by better drivers and my pit tactic forfeits a potential pass on the inside when they're used against good drivers.

That's difficult to stay ahead like that if you are mid to high B speed, and if you follow someone who is slightly slower you risk someone catching you and either beating on your rear bumper or dive bombing you, many people have a tendency to put their car in the exact wrong spot on every approach. I have no idea how PD expects the leading car to prevent the follower from drafting up and bump drafting causing SR downs for the front car. I have learned to make sure to put 2 wheels off track if someone leans on me thru a corner now, they can choose to be aggressive but at least you can give them a time penalty for not passing clean, it's one of the few things PD got right with the penalty system.
 
Among the advice given in the Racing Etiquette videos is to watch out for, and avoid, other people who "become a missile".

It's not really a question of being fine with it - and yes, it is a little OTT in that someone can keep bump drafting you and generating a load of SR Downs for you (quick tip, if you think they're about to do that again, stamp on the clutch to put the car in neutral just before impact; you'll ghost and they'll go right through you - now the boot is on the other foot...) - but it being part of the intent of SR.


I guess on the gamepad it is not possible to put in neutral.
 
There were a LOT of DQ's in at Willow in the races I was in last night and at least 6 DR resets, including one guy who punted me out of the lead of a race, that race with that car is an SR minefield even in a race of SR B's.
 
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