Hey everyone, This thread is the place to discuss future GTS’s DLCs. This is a topic that some people have been talking about recently and at 25 days of GTS's launch, some of us are a bit concerned with the fact that no information regarding DLC or a season pass has came out. Considering the limited number of cars and tracks we're expecting, the absence of a season pass from the pre-orders packages is also strange. I’ll focus only on the cars, because we have Kaz on record saying he would like to have around 500 cars on GTS (with race cars and all type of road cars, old and new). That's the only number / info we have regarding DLC. We all expect new tracks as well but nothing so specific was said or written up until now. So, lets go! 1- Numbers Number of cars expected on October 17: 150 -180 Number of cars Kaz as wants GTS to have: 500 So, PD needs to put into the game between 300 and 350 cars. Given that Forza and PC release a new game roughly every 24 months and a new PlayStation could come out in 2020, I’d say it doesn’t make sense for PD to have these 500 cars in GTS after 2020. So, that’s 3 years to complete the list. That means PD has 30 - 36 months to reach the 500 number. That means 10 new cars each month (10 * 30) And if each car model takes ~6 months to make according to PD, that means that at any given moment (including now), PD needs 6 teams of 10 full-time (8h) employees, each team developing 10 new cars to be released at the same time. These teams need to be working already and would only stop by the end of 2019. If we get 5 cars a month, we will only get to 500+ in 2022/23. Even if we point to 2023 to reach the 500 cars, that means 5 new cars per month, on average. 500 cars at the end of 2018? That would be great! 22 new cars per month, starting in November. Not happening. If we take the 400 number, that would mean over 6 new cars per month until mid 2020. The issue is: no studio ever made a DLC with (let alone with so much content) every single month for 3 years in a row. Not one. 2- Bling-bling Some references: Forza - DLC Packs of 7 to 10 cars: $6,99 Assetto Corsa – DLC Packs of 7 to 10 cars: €6,99 - €7,99 Assetto Corsa – DLC Pack of 7 cars + 1 track: €9,99 Pcars – DLC Pack 4 cars + 3 locations: €7,49 Pcars – DLC Pack 2 cars + 2 locations: €3,99 Pcars – DLC Packs of 3 to 6 cars: €3,49 - €5,49 Average price is .75$ - 1$ per car PD needs to put out +300 cars in GTS. I don’t think they will give out half of them for free (that’s the same number of cars we’ll have on day 1, with the full game). So, we‘re looking at something like $150 - $250, assuming some cars will be given out for free. Another thing that makes me sceptical is how much PD likes duplicates. But no one will buy DLC with duplicates or very similar cars to those they already have... This means that a lot of those 300 – 350 cars can be duplicates, put in the DLC packs mixed with unique cars (so, we buy 6 new unique cars and get a few “new” duplicates, versions of existing ones). From the list of ~140 we have now, only 80 cars are 100% real and unique. All the others are fictional or PD’s interpretations based of real world cars. ps: I'm also excluding a GTS2 coming out in 2020 with 500 cars, for example, because that game wouldn't be GTS any more. 3 - Question In the past, PD also said we would get a new Vision GT per month for 24 months. A single car. They also said we would have regular DLCs. Not to mention the course creator that took ages to arrive to our... mobile devices, even though it was supposed to be a day1 feature. Given these points, A) Do you think PD will deliver (500 cars) in 3 years? B) How much are you willing to pay for DLC? Feel free to add your comments and concerns regarding the DLC in general (cars, tracks, scapes, stickers, etc). Cheers!