Do All Cars Handle Differently?

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Derrickrosefan69
This is what I'm wondering because I think it would be pretty hard to get all 1200 cars to handle different. Does this mean that only the premiums handle differently and the standards are just generalized based on car shape, engine type, etc. Does anybody have information on this?
 
Pretty much everything with different parameters will handle differently.

This is truly the beauty of Gran Turismo: the procedural way in which any car (even its various separate components!) is turned into a physics object that behaves differently as the parameters change. What this means is that any small change can really be felt, and is not just the result of some programmer putting in data that says how the car handles, but rather that the parameters themselves create the result.
 
Speculation: It's possible that some of the data of the cars are generalized. I doubt for instance that they have access to all suspension data for all the cars. Things like toe settings may be a generic setting that is the same for a lot of cars (most/all?). Brake balance is also the same by default for all cars I believe.
 
Differences among some certain cars are indeed large, some are not so. For the quantity of collection, it's already a remarkable achivement (as mentioned above by others).

And it keeps the good trend in tuning. In general, all cars react sensitively and effectively to tunings.
 
Can this also mean that for exemple, my Honda S2000 will handle differently from my Mugen S2000?
 
swynder
Can this also mean that for exemple, my Honda S2000 will handle differently from my Mugen S2000?
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Yes. The Mugen does come with rather different default settings, and has a much harder setup than the normal S2000. I suppose if you make them have identical suspension settings though, they should be very similar.
 
Madertus
Of course, the latter is a tuned car. Try doing, say, 3 laps on any track with your S2000, and then with the Mugen. Their times will differ.
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Trying it with a Mugen and the Blue Spoon would be better because they`re both tuned and not just standard like the Honda.
 
carracerptp
Even the miatas are very different.

So yes, just about every car handles differently.
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There aren't that many truly different (in terms of configuration) Miatas, though. A couple different engines and a couple different base weights.
 
If it's simply engine/trim differences, then you won't feel anything. Other than that, yes, they are all unique.
 
And what about same race cars of different racing teams?
Like Audi R8 team phoenix/team joest (and all the japanese race cars), the cars have the same specs/settings. Do they also drive differently?
 
Rednose
And what about same race cars of different racing teams?
Like Audi R8 team phoenix/team joest (and all the japanese race cars), the cars have the same specs/settings. Do they also drive differently?
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Yes (a lot of specs are very slightly different in GT500's as well, to reflect the real BOP adjustments). For example, take the Advan Clarion GT-R and the YellowHat GT-R for a drive in their stock settings. You'll notice a significant difference in stability.
 
in theory they are all unique but of course you may find lots of cars that have similar specs and similar handling
 
Most cars are different, but there are some examples where the cars is the same, to even the finest detail. I'll give you a bunch of examples:

Audi R8 LMS '09
Audi R8 LMS (Team PlayStation) '09
Is exactly the same.

Honda TAKATA DOME NSX '06
Honda RAYBRIG NSX '06
Honda ARTA NSX '06
Are all exactly the same.

Honda HSV-010 GT Base Model '12
Honda RAYBRIG HSV-010 '12
Honda KEIHIN HSV-010 '12
Are also all the same, its only the livery that differ, with the base model having no livery at all.

Honda weider HSV-010 '11
Is NOT the same as the other 3 HSV-010 cars.

Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13
Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 '13
Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 Base Model '13
Is exactly the same, while the:
Nissan NISMO GT3 Nissan GT Academy Team RJN '13
Is NOT the same!

Honda S2000 (US) '01
Honda S2000 (EU) '01
Are both identical.

Honda S2000 Type V (EU) '01
Honda S2000 Type V (US) '01
Are both identical aswell.

Honda S2000 Type V (US) '00
Honda S2000 Type V (US) '01
Are NOT identical!

Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Are the same, and
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
are the same aswell, and ALL 4 are identical in specifications, down to every little detail. However, they still differ a bit when driving them. (the first 2 differ slightly from second 2.)

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Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2010 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
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Chevrolet 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jeff Gordon #24 DuPont CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot/Old Spice CHEVROLET IMPALA
Toyota 2011 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2011 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Chevrolet 2011 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET
Chevrolet 2011 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ NG CHEVROLET IMPALA
Are ALL exactly the same!

Toyota 2013 Matt Kenseth #20 Dollar General/Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2013 Carl Edwards #99 Fastenal FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Aric Almirola #43 Farmland FORD FUSION
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS
Is also believed to be exactly the same as the 2010/2011 nascar's, but not confirmed yet.
 
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hsv
Yes (a lot of specs are very slightly different in GT500's as well, to reflect the real BOP adjustments). For example, take the Advan Clarion GT-R and the YellowHat GT-R for a drive in their stock settings. You'll notice a significant difference in stability.
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Dont you mean the "MOTUL AUTECH GT-R"?

because:
Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R '08
Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R '08
Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R '08
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R '08
Nissan GT-R GT500 Base Model '08
Are all the same, and drives the same. they're identical.
But the:
Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '08
is different.
 
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Most cars are different, but there are some examples where the cars is the same, to even the finest detail. I'll give you a bunch of examples:

Audi R8 LMS '09
Audi R8 LMS (Team PlayStation) '09
Is exactly the same.

Honda TAKATA DOME NSX '06
Honda RAYBRIG NSX '06
Honda ARTA NSX '06
Are all exactly the same.

Honda HSV-010 GT Base Model '12
Honda RAYBRIG HSV-010 '12
Honda KEIHIN HSV-010 '12
Are also all the same, its only the livery that differ, with the base model having no livery at all.

Honda weider HSV-010 '11
Is NOT the same as the other 3 HSV-010 cars.

Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13
Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 '13
Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 Base Model '13
Is exactly the same, while the:
Nissan NISMO GT3 Nissan GT Academy Team RJN '13
Is NOT the same!

Honda S2000 (US) '01
Honda S2000 (EU) '01
Are both identical.

Honda S2000 Type V (EU) '01
Honda S2000 Type V (US) '01
Are both identical aswell.

Honda S2000 Type V (US) '00
Honda S2000 Type V (US) '01
Are NOT identical!

Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Are the same, and
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
are the same aswell, and ALL 4 are identical in specifications, down to every little detail. However, they still differ a bit when driving them. (the first 2 differ slightly from second 2.)

Toyota 2010 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2010 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2010 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Chevrolet 2010 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ National Guard CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jeff Gordon #24 DuPont CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot/Old Spice CHEVROLET IMPALA
Toyota 2011 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2011 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Chevrolet 2011 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET
Chevrolet 2011 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ NG CHEVROLET IMPALA
Are ALL exactly the same!

Toyota 2013 Matt Kenseth #20 Dollar General/Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Ford 2013 Carl Edwards #99 Fastenal FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Aric Almirola #43 Farmland FORD FUSION
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS
Is also believed to be exactly the same as the 2010/2011 nascar's, but not confirmed yet.
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I'm sure I read somewhere that many of the Nascar cars were different in terms of performance. I think it was @WhoosierGirl that mentioned it somewhere.
 
Johnnypenso
I'm sure I read somewhere that many of the Nascar cars were different in terms of performance. I think it was @WhoosierGirl that mentioned it somewhere.
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Well, I've tested most (not all) and not noticed any difference, and all seasonal events results when using nascar's indicates there is no difference...
 
The converse is that you can tune out the differences and make the cars more similar, that goes against some purists but it does show that the cars are generalized and you can bring them back to a desired median. Now getting a MR feel like a FF may not be easy but most cars can be set up with fairly neutral handling characteristics.
 
I couldn't help but think he needs to get out more. It's logical that all cars would handle differently but there's also logic in questioning whether they do or not in a game. There are no stupid questions--only stupid people that can't spot the logic.

Note: The imbecilic comment that this was in response to has since been deleted.
 
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TexRex
I couldn't help but think he needs to get out more. It's logical that all cars would handle differently but there's also logic in questioning whether they do or not in a game. There are no stupid questions--only stupid people that can't spot the logic.
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heh, the replies was deleted:lol:
 
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It does not take much to make a difference, Aston DB9 '03 & '06 are identical except the '06 version has slightly softer rear springs. The '06 version therefore has a lot better traction probably due to better weight transfer, its a heavy car.
You can mash the throttle virtually everywhere with the late model while the other needs finer control.
 

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