Do B-Spec drivers ever really push the car?

[RikkiGT-R]

As thread title, I'm up to level 6 in b-spec (simply to get the Mazda once he struggles to the Roadster win @ Tsukuba). I genuinely can't see me going past this level as it's beyond irritating to watch.

For guys who have played b-spec quite a lot (for whatever reason), do your drivers ever get to a point where you know they are really pushing the car; braking late, accelerating flat-out on straights, aggressively overtaking and such?

My driver here is ambling around Tsukuba like my Granny in Tesco car park, and even when I tell him to increase pace there is no discernible difference (and yet he still manages to slide off at virtually every corner). Will he ever get to a point where he is driving like he actually wants to win the race?

 

[AliasJR]

mine's a complete idiot, I give him a 4wd car 40/60 traction control to 5 and he still somehow manages to spin the car

 

[Onusukamarusan]

I write down all the body rigidity and engine repairs caused by my dumb B-spectard. He lost almost 15x more money than he won. That's why I will play B-Spec when i get to A-spec lvl 30 and will have cash to pay for this idiot.

 

[Ahjumbie]

If you keep selecting "pace up" and keep the meter at the bottom in the red , that tempermental ninny sure will push the car ... right into a wall.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

Oh for the love of God.

He was leading that race by about 8 seconds with 3 laps to go, then managed to lose it on the last corner by simply moving out of the way. No matter what I told him to do, he kept losing time, then got flustered on the last lap.

He was driving a Eunos Roadster that I won the corresponding a-spec race in. I waltzed to victory in the stock car, but then did all manner of upgrades for my driver (lightened, improved the drive train and suspension etc). What a joke he is.

 

[mlowther]

In a word...no. Mine is usually at least 6 seconds a lap slower than me when im coasting. And if he is miles in the lead he will slow down even more, M.Adler .... more like M.Daisy

 

[GT Harry GT]

As thread title, I'm up to level 6 in b-spec (simply to get the Mazda once he struggles to the Roadster win @ Tsukuba). I genuinely can't see me going past this level as it's beyond irritating to watch.

For guys who have played b-spec quite a lot (for whatever reason), do your drivers ever get to a point where you know they are really pushing the car; braking late, accelerating flat-out on straights, aggressively overtaking and such?

My driver here is ambling around Tsukuba like my Granny in Tesco car park, and even when I tell him to increase pace there is no discernible difference (and yet he still manages to slide off at virtually every corner). Will he ever get to a point where he is driving like he actually wants to win the race?

your too low of a level to see B-Spec at it's best, After Level 30, especially after level 35, Mr. Bob BSPEC is a beast. I have seen some intense races, accidents, damage, maneuvers, etc. etc. I like watching more of B-Spec then real life racing, lol. Keep at it and you will see.

 

[articzap]

I write down all the body rigidity and engine repairs caused by my dumb B-spectard. He lost almost 15x more money than he won. That's why I will play B-Spec when i get to A-spec lvl 30 and will have cash to pay for this idiot.

Those should only have to be done ever 5000 miles or so. Just because its available to be purchased, doesn't mean the car needs it yet.

LOL

 

[dhandeh]

When you get your driver to bspec class 26/27 they get quite good then. Mine even managed to face the right way for a whole lap.

 

[TOUGEFC]

My highest b-spec driver is at level 22 and he is getting more and more refined every race.

 

[XBulbX]

your driver will only noticably improve by level 10 (not that it's much) and I guess gets better as he levels

 

[millross]

Seriously? I am BSpec level 12 and I have drivers who are class 12, 7 and 4.

I can enter any into some of the "Professional" series races and they act almost identically, coming mid-pack in a car that would win by 30 seconds in A-Spec mode.

I have yet to see any difference between drivers of different class levels, luck seems to play more of a part and if they have the up/down/side arrows against them.

 

[BradKinder]

Use pace up when his hot/cool bar drops into the cool. Keep it at, or just above, the middle mark. Use maintain pace to keep the bar steady, rather than gradually increasing when you hit "increase pace" or decreasing when you do nothing. The bar will always increase when other drivers are near. When the hot/cold bar is near the middle, your driver will do quite well. Not as well as a human player can do, but much better than when his bar is off-center.

 

[BuzzDrought]

4 drivers around level 14 now. have to say i can see a big difference on the way they drive. so much so that i avoid using certain drivers on some tracks!, i have one driver thats awful on corners so dry to give it straighter tracks!

they arnt great by any means, but i do find that setup helps massivly, if you can get the suspension set up right then for me atleast it appears to drastically reduce the amount of time they spend playing see-saw with the wheel!

that said, there does seem to be some races they struggle with more than others! the ferrari race on professional is for some reason kicking my ass! probably as im trying to not throw money at every car i use!

EDIT to add, that the pace bar makes a huge difference, keep it in the middle is probably the best for an even race, but pushing it as long as your driver keeps it on the track makes a big difference!

 

[schnopsnosn]

I've got four drivers right now.
I've been boosting three of them with higher level races to reach higher levels quicker.

Just an example how they develop:
I gave my class 7 driver my RM'd ZR-1 and he could barely keep it on track and only won the race if i told him to decrease the pace all the time since he couldn't get away from the pack.
After I won the race he went up one or two classes at once, I let him race again and this time he fared a lot better, taking 1st position after the third corner and I didn't have to intervene once.

Just make sure he has a cool personality, high physical strength and good speed, cornering and accuracy-ratings...

 

[Ragnogroth]

My B-Spec driver is lvl 22 and have driven about 130 races I think and only lost 5.

 

[Pesmerga7551]

I have about 100-140 races done, I think I lost only once. And that's in a Nascar race. He doesn't overtake cars his level of speed. Pathetic!

 

[Patrocles]

your too low of a level to see B-Spec at it's best, After Level 30, especially after level 35, Mr. Bob BSPEC is a beast. I have seen some intense races, accidents, damage, maneuvers, etc. etc. I like watching more of B-Spec then real life racing, lol. Keep at it and you will see.

I hope this is true! In my limited experiments similar to the OP i do not see laptimes come down when I continually Pace Up.

As another posted said it is probably easier work to just give the b-specs a fast car and hit "Start." Lather,rinse,repeat until the b-spec pilot hits Level 30.

 

[RKip]

If you keep selecting "pace up" and keep the meter at the bottom in the red , that tempermental ninny sure will push the car ... right into a wall.

Hey guys, I figured this out! I'm sure many have

OK, you need to keep your driver calm... neutral or less slightly... watch his strength as well, as this is crucial! Now I for one cheat, as I always if possible give him way faster car and more stable than possible. Try these tips:

1) Max out Best allowable tires

2) Keep Driver calm.... no push at start of race... his temperament goes up on its on. Unless a really fast car once they are stable lvl 10-11 drivers

3) Fast Powerful car (assuming the driver can handle it) a lvl 4 driver can't
handle a level 25 car.

4) maintain as much his strength as possible.

5) try to get ahead during the first two laps.

6) try to use him when his arrow is Green level or better yet, Blue and pointing upward

Once you get the guys driving safe and solid their confidence will boost and they will almost drive w/o control.

Again, I hate this mode and think its a waste, but there are a few P cars for rewards and money is easy and I do it while surfing these forums... as I am now!

I have four drivers now:

2 - lvl 13
1 - lvl 7
1 - lvl 3

 

[ghostrider135]

My star b-spec driver is level 27 and he really goes for it, He makes the occasional mistake here and there but so does Lewis Hamilton, He's pretty much walking the FGT championship came 3rd at Monaco but some of the overtaking he did in that race you just wouldn't get away with in the real world, Just stick at it and once your at a proper b-spec level its as good if not better than watching motorsport on telly

 

[CeeJay]

They push the car but it's in the unique B-Spec way, not the normal way a competent human would. For instance my B-Spec goofball is in the Roadster Endurance race right now. He's level 22 and if I push him towards the red he doesn't drive fast he drives stupid. He'll drift the car through the corners totally chewing up the tires and making a mess of things. I have to constantly tell him to cool down and then he's too cool and drives so slow the competition easily catches him. It's like babysitting a blind orangutan. Slow in the corners, SMASH on the gas, go sideways, slow down way too much.. ugh.... this is painful.

 

[paytonlow]

My B-Spec level is 17, and my highest level driver is 14. I have to give Bobs much overpowered cars for almost every race, and I still have nightmares for those I can't.

So far, Bobs never really push the cars. Even with pace up to max. red, they still drive a lot slower than me; plus more likely to make mistakes under this situation.

Worst thing is the other AIs almost never make mistakes, just like A-Spec's AIs. By coincident once I checked other AIs' status during gameplay, and found out that they can regenerate both Physical and Mental Strength. Not to mention they already have more than double the strength than Bobs in same level, this is how B-Spec cheat on us.

I play B-Spec simply because of money and better prize cars - Pagani Zonda R (won Like The Wind A-Spec with it), Toyota 7 (the car I'll need for Historical Race event in A-Spec), Furai, etc.

 

[Bigbazz]

B-spec drivers will likely never be as fast as a decent human. My highest is at lvl 31 and he's still slow as ****.

 

[finnracer]

Mine is level 2 and refuses to accelerate until the steering wheel is exactly straight, brakes halfway down the straight and shifts up at 5500 rpm in a car which revs to 7000! And I have to use a really unfair car for him to have a chance of winning.

 

[Moeses]

What dose the arrow to the left of his head mean? My level 7 driver has a yellow arrow that is pointing to the bottom right.

 

[bermudakid]

Truth is we all expect bob to win every race he is in........ no driver in the world has ever won every race he ever been it, especially at the start of his career (lvl 0) lol.

But yea bob is still and idiot...
just let him run races by himself and watch tv or something and he will rank up even if hes dead last. then you can go back and he will win in a normal car

 

[bermudakid]

this has probably been asked before but can someone explain the B Spec driver hot cold attitude bar .

 

[garbuckle]

The bar should be marked cool / stressed instead of cold / hot. It's his temperament during the race. If he's stressed, he will push the car, but make mistakes. If he's cool, he'll driver fairly smoothly and safely, at the cost of speed and aggression.

I finally figured out the tips for B-spec (that work for me):

- Your car should have a good 25% HP advantage. If not, your driver will be struggling throughout the race, and make mistakes
- You should have the best allowable tires for the race. The only exception is if you have a 2-3X HP advantage, in which case, it doesn't really matter (i.e a Stealth F1 on Sports Hard can usually outrun a Golf on Sports Soft).
- If you have a large car/HP advantage, you can tell your Bob to overtake right off the start line... the key is to get into first ASAP. If you don't think you can make up a lot of positions at first, don't tell Bob to overtake or pace up at the beginning. He will work hard on his own. Push him too much at the start, and he'll make mistakes
- Don't tell him to pace up / overtake if he's "hot" and going into a corner... 99% of the time, he will spin it. The reverse is a good idea: if he's in the lead and "hot" going into a corner, it's a good idea to pace down, so he doesn't spin in. You can then pace up in the straights.
- You need to realize that he will attempt to avoid all cars, at all costs: including braking way too early for corners, and even running off the track at times. This is why it is important to try and get in the lead quickly; his aggression will be high at the beginning of the race anyways, so you might as well use it.
- ALWAYS watch the last couple of laps; he has a tendency to get so cool, as to let the others catch up and pass. This is especially true if he doesn't have a substantial lead. The other AI will always speed on the last few laps as well.

So, to sum up: Add some extra HP, get the best allowable tires, pace down for corners, and pace up/overtake in the straights.

 

[TouringDevotee]

As thread title, I'm up to level 6 in b-spec (simply to get the Mazda once he struggles to the Roadster win @ Tsukuba). I genuinely can't see me going past this level as it's beyond irritating to watch.

For guys who have played b-spec quite a lot (for whatever reason), do your drivers ever get to a point where you know they are really pushing the car; braking late, accelerating flat-out on straights, aggressively overtaking and such?

My driver here is ambling around Tsukuba like my Granny in Tesco car park, and even when I tell him to increase pace there is no discernible difference (and yet he still manages to slide off at virtually every corner). Will he ever get to a point where he is driving like he actually wants to win the race?

My less excellent bob (now level 15) has become quite a good driver after I put him through his paces, watched for his weak and strong points on tracks and then gave orders accordingly (he was utterly horrid on Grand Valley East). Another thing that I have found, is that when he is in the lead, it can be a very good idea to tell him to pace down, which actually causes his pace to quicken, as he is less likely to overdo it coming into a corner. Even when they are dead cool, they can drive erratically, as if the stress from holding the lead is getting to them. Pace down is definitely your friend, more than you'd think, particularly when a bob is sliding off corners.

On a a funny note, I sent one of my drivers into the pro level, Gran Turismo World Championship series, where he took silver overall (3 gold + 2 bronze), and with crappy tires to boot. My fault, I forgot to buy hard racing ones, so the car's tire choice defaulted to hard sports (whoops). And to think that I was yelling at him for not being fast enough...good thing they can't yell back.

One extra thing: I sent my 2nd bob into super cars from the start, and he rapidly became a better driver than my first. Is there a link? I don't know, but I'm going to keep testing this with subsequent bobs.

My star b-spec driver is level 27 and he really goes for it, He makes the occasional mistake here and there but so does Lewis Hamilton, He's pretty much walking the FGT championship came 3rd at Monaco but some of the overtaking he did in that race you just wouldn't get away with in the real world, Just stick at it and once your at a proper b-spec level its as good if not better than watching motorsport on telly

I find it so hard to connect with broadcast motorsport. Just when you get into a driver's lap, they switch to monitoring another car. They make me feel like I have ADHD/ADD.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

They push the car but it's in the unique B-Spec way, not the normal way a competent human would. For instance my B-Spec goofball is in the Roadster Endurance race right now. He's level 22 and if I push him towards the red he doesn't drive fast he drives stupid. He'll drift the car through the corners totally chewing up the tires and making a mess of things. I have to constantly tell him to cool down and then he's too cool and drives so slow the competition easily catches him. It's like babysitting a blind orangutan. Slow in the corners, SMASH on the gas, go sideways, slow down way too much.. ugh.... this is painful.

This describes my experience with B-Spec perfectly.

It is only out of sheer morbid curiosity did I allow the last 2 freak shows of races to continue until the chequered flag. I realise that a race driver will not be The Stig right from the beginning of his career, but any driver THIS bad wouldn't be allowed to be race driver to begin with.

Having said that, I am going to persevere with the damned thing anyway because some of the other posts in this thread have been encouraging.