Do "Kerbs" & Run-Off Areas Wear Tires?

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kk20
LMAO i am literally laughing my a*se off. You still dont get the damn point....HAHAHA ROTFLOL...

We are not comparing inside vs outside!! We are comparing kerbing vs no kerbing. Let me spell everything out...

Hypothesis: I think tyres wear faster when driving over kerbs. Blah di blah blah

Test: Run laps in an oval track. Run 10 laps while kerbing and run 10 laps not kerbing. Repeat multiple times. Conclude the damn results.

Equipment needed: PS3, GT5, DS3

IF the inside wears faster while kerbing then the hypothesis is true. THIS IS WHAT OP IS ASKING!!!

Outside tyres are fricking irelevant....

Get it now???!!!!
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So you don't understand the physics involved then?
 
kk20
LMAO i am literally laughing my a*se off. You still dont get the damn point....HAHAHA ROTFLOL...

We are not comparing inside vs outside!! We are comparing kerbing vs no kerbing. Let me spell everything out...

Hypothesis: I think tyres wear faster when driving over kerbs. Blah di blah blah

Test: Run laps in an oval track. Run 10 laps while kerbing and run 10 laps not kerbing. Repeat multiple times. Conclude the damn results.

Equipment needed: PS3, GT5, DS3

IF the inside wears faster while kerbing then the hypothesis is true. THIS IS WHAT OP IS ASKING!!!

Outside tyres are fricking irelevant....

Get it now???!!!!
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Why even try? It's like having a debate with a brick wall :indiff:
 
peter_vod69
Sigh...

Why though? I mean if you seriously think that running over kerbs with the inside tyre is going to wear that tyre faster than the outside tyre then I'd suggest you either aren't pushing hard enough or you don't understand the physics going on. What is the point of analysing tyre-wear on the inside tyre when it's going to wear out more slowly anyway?

The point is, that in a racing scenario in GT5, you should be more concerned with how much stress you are putting on the outside front tyre, and how straight your cornering lines can be made. The only issue with running over SOME kerbs is going to be how much they upset the balance of the car (like the rather high kerbs in the tunnel corners on Grand Valley, for example).
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Not all tracks are ovals. Some actually require you to turn right. :sly:

Besides, that's beside the point. The question is merely whether curbing damages the tires and whether you should take it into account. Personally, I agree with you that it shouldn't be a concern (from experience with the game), but that doesn't mean that testing the effect to confirm that it isn't a concern is pointless.
 
Can someone speed down the Nurbug main straight please? Two wheels on the tarmac, two on the grass. If off-track damages tyres, the wheels on the grass should have notable wear by the end.

A video would be great :) (im on holiday right now)
 
Grass damaging tires would be problematic to prove, I think; because GT5's way of dealing with grass is basically to treat it as a frictionless surface (hence the people exploiting it in GT Academy). I don't think it models anything in it beyond that.
 
Afrodeezy
Why even try? It's like having a debate with a brick wall :indiff:
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Thats an insult to brick walls...
 
GODfreyGT5
Can someone speed down the Nurbug main straight please? Two wheels on the tarmac, two on the grass. If off-track damages tyres, the wheels on the grass should have notable wear by the end.
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Toronado
Grass damaging tires would be problematic to prove, I think; because GT5's way of dealing with grass is basically to treat it as a frictionless surface (hence the people exploiting it in GT Academy). I don't think it models anything in it beyond that.
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I've already tried this, quite a bit at IMS...
HippieGiraffe
I did 20lps counterclockwise, keeping constant around 150mph, riding the curbs and along the grass... in my mind the greenery should act as a natural rumblestrip. Something the 'Tire Load Indicator' appeared to confirm.
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As mentioned, the load indicator was madder than a hatter. I saw this as correctly representing the grassy surfaces effects on the tires, as the wheels moved up/down so quickly over such a rutted surface. Just like it does while riding over the rumblestrips, though more pronounced. Not only that, I was getting the red mark in the centre. Which I believe indicates loss of grip and/or increased strain on the tires, as they simaltaneously bounced and lost traction (split seconds of the wheel in air, spinning freely). As the RR lost its traction, the LSD was momentarily locking and I got the red mark on the RL as well.

After those 20lps (and 10 in the opposite direction) all this seemed to have no effect in speeding up the wear. In the end, it all seemed to be in vain. The tires wore at no more of a noticable rate than when the weight shifts in a bend, as I and others in here have already mentioned. All this was done at about 150mph, but I don't think the additional 50+mph down the Burg's straight would make any difference.
 
HippieGiraffe
I've already tried this, quite a bit at IMS...

As mentioned, the load indicator was madder than a hatter. I saw this as correctly representing the grassy surfaces effects on the tires, as the wheels moved up/down so quickly over such a rutted surface. Just like it does while riding over the rumblestrips, though more pronounced. Not only that, I was getting the red mark in the centre. Which I believe indicates loss of grip and/or increased strain on the tires, as they simaltaneously bounced and lost traction (split seconds of the wheel in air, spinning freely). As the RR lost its traction, the LSD was momentarily locking and I got the red mark on the RL as well.

After those 20lps (and 10 in the opposite direction) all this seemed to have no effect in speeding up the wear. In the end, it all seemed to be in vain. The tires wore at no more of a noticable rate than when the weight shifts in a bend, as I and others in here have already mentioned. All this was done at about 150mph, but I don't think the additional 50+mph down the Burg's straight would make any difference.
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Thank you for properly testing this, I appreciate it, and it's good to know that I shouldn't need to worry about any extra tire wear from Kerbs. 👍 :cheers:
 
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