Do you think we'll ever get matchmaking?

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Just wondering how many other people are hoping for this. Since v1.5, I've been hoping it will be implemented. That's my highest thing on the list of things I hope can be possible.

I just wonder how they'll do it. Maybe have the player choose the car and settings and it will match his car with players with cars of a similar class and setting?

Funny thing is that with most games, I never liked matchmaking due to the fact that they got rid of server browsing all together and completely replaced it with matchmaking. But for a game like this, I think it's a must.
 
It's on my box as a feature. I assume it sort of has to show up eventually.

I would be disappointed if it replaced the current system though.
 
freedomweasel
It's on my box as a feature. I assume it sort of has to show up eventually.

I would be disappointed if it replaced the current system though.
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Oh ya, that's right, it is on the box. Durr.. :dunce:

That would be the best feature for online. As long as it's handled well. Considering there isn't much in terms of tracking a player's driving skill.
 
It should be just like Prologue. PD should have predetermined PP event servers with skid recovery on, skid recovery off, and the current wild west servers. Prologue had beginner, intermediate, and professional rooms. The PD rooms could be restricted by licenses as well.
 
GTOne2Three
Just wondering how many other people are hoping for this. Since v1.5, I've been hoping it will be implemented. That's my highest thing on the list of things I hope can be possible.

I just wonder how they'll do it. Maybe have the player choose the car and settings and it will match his car with players with cars of a similar class and setting?

Funny thing is that with most games, I never liked matchmaking due to the fact that they got rid of server browsing all together and completely replaced it with matchmaking. But for a game like this, I think it's a must.
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Yes, matchmaking can be very good on a game such as this, as long as they don't get stupid like T10 did and completely replace the custom public lobby with it.

It's on the box, so you would hope that eventually they'll finally deliver the full product they advertised. Of course, leaderboards are on the box as well, and outside of the 2 temporary seasonal leaderboards we haven't seen that yet either.

I'm hoping that leaderboards and matchmaking are part of this "Drivers Club" thing that got announced with no details as to what it is.
 
Quite honestly, I like online as is. I don't want match making, or see much use for it. If it does get added, I hope I can ignore it.
 
Matchmaking would be great. The current system is pretty bad for if you just want to play "public" games with strangers.

There could even just be dedicated rooms with designated PP, etc. and it auto-starts when it fills up, then people can vote courses after each race and stick around or leave- no advanced matchmaking required.
 
Exorcet
Quite honestly, I like online as is. I don't want match making, or see much use for it. If it does get added, I hope I can ignore it.
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What do you enjoy most about online racing?

Match making:

Bridges the language barrier
Allows you to focus your setups for specific events
Makes it easier to find races
 
freedomweasel
Ever play call of duty or basically any shooter on a console? Or Forza? The online system in those games is matchmaking.
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Yes i did but the word in English didn't say much to me, this last isn't my first language, thanks for the answer though. 👍
 
I too am really looking forward to matchmaking. It's a must for me, because I'm depending on it to keep me playing GT5.

Open Lobby isn't cutting it for me. It's a giant pain to search for the kind of room you want, especially with the SSR7 glitch going on right now. We need matchmaking for those who just want to jump in and have some quick races online, and don't want to hang out and free run or wait for a race to start.

I'm hoping it'll be similar to the online events in Prologue.
 
D_M
What do you enjoy most about online racing?
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Racing. I'm not sure what you meant with the question though.

Bridges the language barrier
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Was never a problem for me to be honest.
Allows you to focus your setups for specific events
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This is how online always was. I only pick a room that has fixed rules. Super GT, GroupC/LMP, and ~300 hp road cars are very popular, and probably account for 65% of all of my online races.
Makes it easier to find races
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If anything it will lead to frustration because you can't find a race you want.

I just don't want to see what happened in CoD. CoD3 online was basically perfect. You could find anything you wanted at anytime. There was a lot more variety and fun. Then CoD4 came out and everyone was horded into random rooms to play random games with random people. It was just a mess.

Forza 3 online was also terrible. It was impossible to get a race you wanted. I once spent an entire day waiting for the track that I wanted to show up. It never did, not even as an alternate version.

GT5 would just be broken if the same thing happened to its online component. If PD does implement match making, I hope that online will be split. One side for matching, the other side left alone.
 
As long as it is optional, I hate matchmaking to be honest. I don't want to race with random folks, I like going into rooms and scouting good drivers, then racing them. If we get that garbage they did to FM3 i will pretty much stop playing GT5 completely, as random racing is the most awkward of racing for me. Good thing I have friends approaching 20 for GT5 alone, so private lobbies will always be on order for me.

The only way to make match making any good, is to allow the slider power increases and weight changes like they had in GT PSP, that is the only way to reasonably get a car to the correct PP. I love how the lobbies are now, like to hop into a room check the limits and if I don't like them, I leave. Find something I like I stay and play. Being randomly tossed into a room is the worst. This will have to be a completely separate server for that stuff, if you want to see how boring it is, urge you to go on FM3 servers and see how many people are playing at any given time. What's worse is they haven't changed the automatic course selection in like 7 months.
 
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SavageEvil
If we get that garbage they did to FM3 i will pretty much stop playing GT5 completely
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Yeah, it kills your desire to race pretty quickly when the game makes it impossible to even set up a proper race. 3 laps? No damage? Random track? Car classes spaced wider apart than stars on opposite ends of the galaxy that making running all but a handful of cars in stock form pointless?

In all fairness, GT5P's matchmaking system was somewhat decent. But I think the only reason I didn't hate it was because the game was a demo. It would be a giant step backwards at this point.
 
Well, there's always Shuffle Racing...

It strikes me PD have missed a big opportunity (not that that's any surprise!) to turn this into an excellent feature. It could be SO much better.

Right now, what we have is Entry Level, or Tier One Shuffle Racing. POS daily drivers, on POS tires. It needs to go to the next level. A BIT better cars, on a BIT better tires. Then another Tier... All the way up to ALMS cars, on racing softs.

Now that the PP system has been enabled, it also needs to restrict the fastest cars, and get them all on IDENTICAL PP ratings. Do away with the slowest guy getting the fastest car next race. Just make the cars random.

But I like the idea of restricting entry to the higher Tiers until you win a certain number of races. Otherwise, no-one will race Tier 1, and everyone will be hooning around in ALMS cars completely out of control. Say 50-100 wins before you can progress. This will make the highest Tiers the best drivers, too, and give a REASON to work on your driving (because you sure can't out-muscle your opponents..!). And a certain minimum number of racers before the win counts.

There might be an opportunity to have the Tiers restricted to certain aids off by default. Or at least, if you get 50 wins with Skid Recovery on, you only get to race Tier 2 Shuffle races that enable the feature. Want to race Tier 2 with aids off? Got to win in aids off Lobbies...

In a way, this sounds a LOT like matchmaking, but it's a bit more structured. Not the free for all that things are currently, though. Simple random races against random drivers rarely works out to be good racing, but OTOH, racing with good clean drivers is rarely as varied in car selection or track selection. I think there's room for a balance between the two.

The best outcome of my system would be, at the highest levels, drivers will ONLY be racing those with the highest skills, in the fastest cars with the grippiest tires, but you don't have to join an elite Racing Club to do it! Anyone, from anywhere will quickly be able to get a good race at his or her level.

What do you think?
 
Destinkeys
What do you think?
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The short of it is, it sounds like a good way to annoy new players and a good way to annoy good drivers who don't happen to have done a lot of online racing. I also think you're over estimating the ability of your system to root out bad drivers. Any wreckless goon could make it to top tier, they just need to ram and shortcut past enough people. That is far worse than someone who isn't great at driving, but wants to learn.

To be fair though, I am not a fan of shuffle races in the slightest. PD could basically do whatever to them, and I wouldn't care. I'm just concerned for the people who do like shuffles. I would oppose this completely if it were even proposed for all of online though.


Also, I completely disagree with you on "no one will race tier one unless a gun it put to their head". I play online a lot (though for a number of reasons, the last time I was on PS3 was in January). Finding a low power race is very easy. What's not easy is finding a race for high powered road cars or low powered race cars. Besides that, if no one wants to race tier 1, that's fine. They shouldn't be forced to anyway. If no one races tier 1, it just means it's not fun.
 
And i want the option to go on the XMB and join my friends lobby easy without searching for the room or typing in the very long number.
 
Rob-F1-Fan
And i want the option to go on the XMB and join my friends lobby easy without searching for the room or typing in the very long number.
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ummm, they have had that for some time now. Just go to your friends name and click on his lounge to go to his lounge or click on the little orange circle above his lounge to go to whatever room he is in. If you are in a open lobby and have a friend in the room you can go change your oil or what not and come back to the same room just by clicking on the little orange thing above your friends name.

They could add a "last room" button I guess. That would make it faster if you had no friends in a room you wished to return to. Or they could make it so you could change your oil without leaving a room, that would be nice.
 
Guys, we're lobbying for both. Those of you who like the current system, would get to keep it. I don't want the current system replaced, just to know before hand that there is a 600pp race at Suzuka.
 
freedomweasel
Ever play call of duty or basically any shooter on a console? Or Forza? The online system in those games is matchmaking.
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Good point!!! Those are all TERRIBLE and give the player no options. If that is what they do I will never play online again.
 
I really think Open Lobby won't be replaced. Matchmaking will just be an addition, that's it. They're two separate game modes according to the manual.
 
I don't think you have played many other racing games, if you think that most people prefer to stay racing at low and medium levels..! You only have to read THIS forum, to hear the kids whine about the fact that they can't jump into an FGT on the day the buy the game, and go online straight away!

Here's my problem with online.... finding a race with the car that YOU want to race, on the track that YOU want to drive is like finding a needle in a haystack. And, in all fairness, most of the 'clean' racers tend to have a VERY narrow choice of cars and tracks they want to race. I like the idea of using EVERYTHING the game has to offer. So a random element has to be introduced.

My schedule means I cannot go online at the same time of day on the same day each week, so finding a mechanism for getting good even racing from strangers is needed. Shuffle Racing seems to fit the bill. I just don't see what the objection is to my idea. Under it, everyone that likes it exactly the way it is can still do that. All I have talked about is additional levels.
 

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