Do you think we'll ever get matchmaking?

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Being a lifelong PC gamer, I don't want matchmaking. I like the server browser type system where I'm in control as to which game I join and if there's nothing I like, I can create my own. I hated the matchmaking in Prologue.
 
Exorcet
Yeah, it kills your desire to race pretty quickly when the game makes it impossible to even set up a proper race. 3 laps? No damage? Random track? Car classes spaced wider apart than stars on opposite ends of the galaxy that making running all but a handful of cars in stock form pointless?

In all fairness, GT5P's matchmaking system was somewhat decent. But I think the only reason I didn't hate it was because the game was a demo. It would be a giant step backwards at this point.
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THANK YOU, I totally agree!!! As soon as you get used to the way a room plays you get stuck with another room of people you don't know. There is no accountability. Bad drivers don't get booted and therefore there is no reason to try and protect your good reputation. NO matchmaking would ruin the online part of the game. I love it the way it is. Leave it alone. If there is any changes make it to where you can change your oil in the settings so you don't have to leave the room and it would be great the way it is IMO.
 
Destinkeys
Here's my problem with online.... finding a race with the car that YOU want to race, on the track that YOU want to drive is like finding a needle in a haystack. And, in all fairness, most of the 'clean' racers tend to have a VERY narrow choice of cars and tracks they want to race. I like the idea of using EVERYTHING the game has to offer. So a random element has to be introduced.
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The problem with the current shuffle race system, is the lack of tuning. I'm not referring to adding parts,but the ability to tune your transmission, suspension, and differential. We can't have it all buddy. There is always going to be a track or PP level that you don't like.
 
Destinkeys
I don't think you have played many other racing games, if you think that most people prefer to stay racing at low and medium levels..! You only have to read THIS forum, to hear the kids whine about the fact that they can't jump into an FGT on the day the buy the game, and go online straight away!

Here's my problem with online.... finding a race with the car that YOU want to race, on the track that YOU want to drive is like finding a needle in a haystack. And, in all fairness, most of the 'clean' racers tend to have a VERY narrow choice of cars and tracks they want to race. I like the idea of using EVERYTHING the game has to offer. So a random element has to be introduced.

My schedule means I cannot go online at the same time of day on the same day each week, so finding a mechanism for getting good even racing from strangers is needed. Shuffle Racing seems to fit the bill. I just don't see what the objection is to my idea. Under it, everyone that likes it exactly the way it is can still do that. All I have talked about is additional levels.
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As long as it was something added rather than taking the place of what is already here I wouldn't think it was too bad. I also don't see how it would help anything though. I mean if you want a certain type of race at a certain track just put that track in the filter and see what kind of races are being raced at that track. If there aren't enough then start a room of your own and if there are enough people who want to race that then they will come. If not then there isn't enough interest in that type of racing. If you had the matchmaking the same thing would happen. If there wasn't enough people wanting to race that kind of race no one would show up there either. The only difference is that with the way it is WE have control over what happens rather than with matchmaking it is much more random and is always changing.

I like it the way it is and don't see how matchmaking could help, I do see how it could ruin what is now a great system.
 
Destinkeys
I don't think you have played many other racing games, if you think that most people prefer to stay racing at low and medium levels..! You only have to read THIS forum, to hear the kids whine about the fact that they can't jump into an FGT on the day the buy the game, and go online straight away!
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Well, the FGT is expensive and the game makes it (or used to make it) annoying difficult to get. "Low tier" cars are the opposite, so no one complains. Though, I've noticed that I'm not the only one who is disappointed by the fact that I can't race low powered race cars. Every group of cars has its fans.

Anyway, while online won't let you get exactly what you want when you want it, the chances are much better than needle in haystack. Needle in haystack is what I'd use to describe Forza of CoD matchmaking. GT5P's is borderline. Technically, PD could make a GT5P system that includes every car class on every track, but would they? Right now, if I want an exact car/track combo, I just make a room. It works. If you had matchmaking, I very much doubt that you could get more car specific than what the current system offers. Tracks you could do, car class you could do. One make races, or "rival" races (Viper vs Vette) would be trickier.

Under it, everyone that likes it exactly the way it is can still do that. All I have talked about is additional levels.
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Yes, but you cut some people off from those levels. I've heard other people ask for higher levels. I'm not them, but I'm sure that they wouldn't want to have to unlock those levels just to play them.
 
GT5CHECKMATE
THANK YOU, I totally agree!!! As soon as you get used to the way a room plays you get stuck with another room of people you don't know. There is no accountability. Bad drivers don't get booted and therefore there is no reason to try and protect your good reputation. NO matchmaking would ruin the online part of the game. I love it the way it is. Leave it alone. If there is any changes make it to where you can change your oil in the settings so you don't have to leave the room and it would be great the way it is IMO.
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That really doesn't sound fair. People like me just want to have quick and fun races without the hassle of searching for a room. Matchmaking will solve this.

As I said in my post above, Open Lobby and Matchmaking will probably be two separate modes. That's what is says in the manual. I see no reason why both can't co-exist. Everyone will be happy if they do.
 
GT5CHECKMATE
As long as it was something added rather than taking the place of what is already here I wouldn't think it was too bad. I also don't see how it would help anything though. I mean if you want a certain type of race at a certain track just put that track in the filter and see what kind of races are being raced at that track. If there aren't enough then start a room of your own and if there are enough people who want to race that then they will come. If not then there isn't enough interest in that type of racing. If you had the matchmaking the same thing would happen. If there wasn't enough people wanting to race that kind of race no one would show up there either. The only difference is that with the way it is WE have control over what happens rather than with matchmaking it is much more random and is always changing.

I like it the way it is and don't see how matchmaking could help, I do see how it could ruin what is now a great system.
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Matchmaking would draw from the gobal pool. Now you have to filter through all the rooms. The game would do this automatically.
 
I prefer the lounge system we have now. I may take a little extra effort to get the room up and going but the end result is more fun. Now if someone doesn't have any friends to play with then I can understand the desire for a matching system...but IMO just get some friends :)
 
rileyra
I prefer the lounge system we have now. I may take a little extra effort to get the room up and going but the end result is more fun. Now if someone doesn't have any friends to play with then I can understand the desire for a matching system...but IMO just get some friends :)
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It has nothing to do with friends, inevitably one guy rises to the top, so you can pretty much predict the races. We're just looking to be matched up with random people around the world, who don't mind racing against other random people.
 
Exorcet
Though, I've noticed that I'm not the only one who is disappointed by the fact that I can't race low powered race cars.
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One of the best races I had online was when I got to actually race my Mk1 Golf GTI online. I think it was on London. Unfortunately as much as I enjoy driving that little car, I've only ever seen one room to drive it in without creating my own lobby. Even if we had a matchmaking system that matched PP points of cars, it would probably be a long queue time to get matched with similar low-power cars and the races would be small. At least when you make a lobby for these cars, it's advertised and people might switch cars to join.

D_M
Why?
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It was incredibly slow, had no options whatsoever and was unreliable, especially during off-peak hours.
 
ssyd780
One of the best races I had online was when I got to actually race my Mk1 Golf GTI online. I think it was on London. Unfortunately as much as I enjoy driving that little car, I've only ever seen one room to drive it in without creating my own lobby. Even if we had a matchmaking system that matched PP points of cars, it would probably be a long queue time to get matched with similar low-power cars and the races would be small. At least when you make a lobby for these cars, it's advertised and people might switch cars to join.


It was incredibly slow, had no options whatsoever and was unreliable, especially during off-peak hours.
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One of the missing items from the room filter, is sort by PP. I think this would be a great addition to the room filter.
 
I want matchmaking similar to Prologue, but with a rotating tracklist. Choosing you car and being matched from there sounds nice, but imagine the crying by people on here when they lose a race. "Matchmaking is broken because I lost. I'm never playing again, thanks for nothing PD!"

I would taken any matchmaking, though, as long as we get it and the current system.
 
How about this?

If you want same level people as you driving with you, the game will test you.

License tests will be necessity again.

A class holders race with A class

B class race with B class

Super License race with super license.

And if you feel you are good enough, you get instantly tested and it will reward you with the license depending on how well you raced the nurb on an untamed car. That way advance drivers can avoid having to go through the tests.
 
Matchmaking would be a good feature. However though, if it were to replace the current system, it would really limit the freedom of the online racing aspect. For example, with only matchmaking, you couldn't have leagues, possibly not even be able to race with who you want with, etc.

In my opinion, it would be better if PD either puts matchmaking as a separate option, or they upgrade Shuffle Racing (or both).
 
Lobbies and matchmaking should coexist, so I am in favor of this addition. Polyphony listened to our demands for endurance saves, so let's get them to add matchmaking. Online would be so much better with matchmaking (Considering all it's feature, it's decent right now, but I want Polyphony to take that leap from decent to great).
 

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