Does anyone use medium tires?

[1241Penguin]

CM tires in my experience produce the most realistic lap times, so I use them.

 

[Ryk]

As an Example a Ruf BTR fitted with SM/SS tyres becomes a less evil creature when you push the car. It takes a lot of the strain away from the rear tyres as the fronts are a weaker link.

I'd Use Medium Tyres in a race if Soft tyres were too fast and I wished to take a performance hit - without being ballasted or using the poor power limiter.

 

[psavi]

Comparing real world times is a bit silly in my opinion, the virtual lap will always be more committed and have more big risks and liberties taken. I have no doubt that you can match any real world times. But the truth in the matter is, most real world Nordschleife times, whilst being impressive, they are compromised due to self preservation on the drivers (and sometimes the manufacturers) part.

That might be true, but I will just agree to disagree.

What is you real life experience of nice rubber? I have been through many types of road and semi slick Road legal track tyres. I find comfort soft is pretty close to top end normal rubber, like pilot sport 3, parada spec 2 etc. This is on personal experience. Sports Hards feel like medium compound R888, and sports medium similar to soft compound 888.

Unfortunately, living in Brazil, we only have s***ty expensive FF cars and every car component is expensive, including tires, so I don't have life experience with different types of rubber.

I don't quite understand what you mean when you say "Sports Hards feel like medium compound". I would say cornering speed is much more important in a comparison as the feel of a real car is very different than on the game, it doesn't matter what tire you are using.

Never been on slicks. But a friend of mine was using ex btcc slicks, and he said they were similar to sports soft in terms of lateral G's.

Those would be slicks made for road cars or slicks purpose built for racing? If it is slicks like those on the Zonda, I'm pretty sure the lateral g's of the sports soft would be greater. No doubt in my mind.

 

[TomatoFK]

Whilst all this may be true.

In my opinion. When trying to recreate R888 etc tyres, sports hard and medium are prefect.

I am no super car expert.

But, I do enjoy some tasty rubber.

Whilst browsing for new tyres for my own car, I regularly find tyres that are only available in super car sizes, and run a different 'special' compound and tread pattern.

Comparing real world times is a bit silly in my opinion, the virtual lap will always be more committed and have more big risks and liberties taken. I have no doubt that you can match any real world times. But the truth in the matter is, most real world Nordschleife times, whilst being impressive, they are compromised due to self preservation on the drivers (and sometimes the manufacturers) part.

Those pirellis are an excellent example of my initial point. Please link me to some in 195/50/15, as I'd love some. But I doubt you could source some on that size, of that exact tyre model. (I have no doubt that pirelli sell slicks in that size, but I mean that exact model of tyre)

Please don't take this personally. We all have opinions.

What is you real life experience of nice rubber? I have been through many types of road and semi slick Road legal track tyres. I find comfort soft is pretty close to top end normal rubber, like pilot sport 3, parada spec 2 etc. This is on personal experience. Sports Hards feel like medium compound R888, and sports medium similar to soft compound 888.

Never been on slicks. But a friend of mine was using ex btcc slicks, and he said they were similar to sports soft in terms of lateral G's.

So it seems according to your experience, the rubber in GT6 is often one grade softer compared to real life counterparts, so to recreate the more realistic feel should we select the tires that areone grade lower than the ones come with stock?

 

[Doodle]

The newest WRS combo uses Sport Mediums, so yes.

 

[TomatoFK]

I never go below CS for anything. SM are for some supercars, with SS reserved for cars that have "unique" handling. RM is for prototypes, or GT cars with ridiculous amounts of power.

Same for me, I do not go below CS, since I use DS3, and I just find difficult to control throttle for many cars with 400hp+, and the steering inputs have to be smoother as well.

 

[HuskyGT]

I do use Sport Medium tires. In any MR super cars or high performance sports cars above 650HP. Examples of cars I have with SM:

-Viper GTS. 660HP
-Cizeta V16T 595HP
-Shelby GT500 666HP
-Aston Martin One-77. 750HP
-Audi RS6. 600HP

The rest of my garage uses Sport Hard (FF and any car above 250HP) or Comfort Soft (anything 200HP or below). The only cars I have with Sport Soft are track cars like the Ferrari FXX, Viper ACR, and my interpretation of a track purpose McLaren F1 and Corvette ZR-1.

This is subject to change though. It depends on my mood. Sometimes I just put Sport Hards on everything.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

No matter comfort, sport or race, it just seems the game does not need the medium compound since all the races require either hard or soft compound, and so far I have not seen any car come with medium compound tires from stock, so I'm just wondering when to use them?

An odd set of choices, what if we use them in other races other than endurance or online? what if we use them in more than one type of event or on given cars.

No race requires soft compound but some will let use use at best a soft compound of one type of tire and in some case there is no restriction on tires so you can run anything you like. Naturally with tire wear being on you have to look at lap time vs number of laps of the given compound to make the right choice to run on the car in question. Some cars eat tires so soft compounds don't last long where others are gas hogs and need fuel before a soft will wear out. It comes down to car/track/#laps

 

[jlmcmillan1978]

This isn't directed at you specifically. I have seen many people posting similar and I can't for the life of me understand it, when there are plenty of other settings to help balance the car. Different compound tyres front and rear, as far as I'm concerned, could never give proper balance.

It works well in Gran Turismo. You get a swift and immediate fix to understeer or oversteer depending on where you place the tires where as other tuning is much more subtle and can often take a long time to provide what you're looking for as you try different settings. I used to run different compounds front to rear quite a lot, not so much now because I don't tune cars as much as I used to.

In real life you wouldn't do this, you would get a similar effect by just changing tire pressures front to rear but Gran Turismo doesn't give us this option.

 

[FussyFez]

That might be true, but I will just agree to disagree.


Unfortunately, living in Brazil, we only have s***ty expensive FF cars and every car component is expensive, including tires, so I don't have life experience with different types of rubber.

I don't quite understand what you mean when you say "Sports Hards feel like medium compound". I would say cornering speed is much more important in a comparison as the feel of a real car is very different than on the game, it doesn't matter what tire you are using.




Those would be slicks made for road cars or slicks purpose built for racing? If it is slicks like those on the Zonda, I'm pretty sure the lateral g's of the sports soft would be greater. No doubt in my mind.

Believe what you want regarding times. Agreeing to disagree is the best option for all.

When I say 'sports hard are like medium compound R888' I mean.

Toyo R888 tyres (very popular in the UK for trackdays and modified car scene) come in two compounds. Soft and medium.

In my opinion, the medium compound R888 has similar grip characteristics to sports hards in game. The softer R888 compound is similar to sports mediums.


In regards to your last point, I have not yet come across slicks designed for road cars. Being that cars on the road need water displacing properties (grooves).

The Zonda tyres for the Nordschleife record are probably either one offs, or an adaption of qualifying slicks destined for race cars. The Zonda is a bad example anyway. It is technically road legal. Good luck actually going anywhere in it in the UK, with speed bumps, potholes, steep side roads joining flat main roads etc. It has lights and Indicators, yay.

The BTCC slicks I was referring to were used for pre season shake down testing. Only seen a couple of heat cycles. My mate would get a good 3 or 4 track days out of them before the rubber was dead.

It works well in Gran Turismo. You get a swift and immediate fix to understeer or oversteer depending on where you place the tires where as other tuning is much more subtle and can often take a long time to provide what you're looking for as you try different settings. I used to run different compounds front to rear quite a lot, not so much now because I don't tune cars as much as I used to.

In real life you wouldn't do this, you would get a similar effect by just changing tire pressures front to rear but Gran Turismo doesn't give us this option.

I agree about pressures. But that's a different type of grip differential to a competently different compound.

It's only a game. If people want to use different compounds to stimulate a setup change then yay for them.

I don't see the point.

If your going to be doing any competetive online racing, you want all the grip you can get. If the room is restricted to sports softs, are you really going to be competetive with sports mediums on the back of a FF car?

Whilst it may make the car feel easier to drive, it's the same as currently adding camber to reduce grip one end.

I've said it before. I use GT as an outlet for my real world urge to do silly things with motorised vehicles.

I therefore try my best to use it in a realistic way.

The only time I would consider using different compounds front and rear would be for wear management in endurance events.

 

[MrGrado]

Does anyone use medium tires?

Yes.

 

[GranTurismo916]

I can't vote because I use them offline and online occasionally.

 

[psavi]

Believe what you want regarding times. Agreeing to disagree is the best option for all.

The BTCC slicks I was referring to were used for pre season shake down testing. Only seen a couple of heat cycles. My mate would get a good 3 or 4 track days out of them before the rubber was dead.

Sorry, I didn't recognize the acronym. But in that case, I believe him. Those slicks might really be close to Sports Soft.

 

[Swagger897]

All the time... My league has a max compound of RM, and mostly prototypes are on RM, and GTE Pro uses RH, and GTE AM uses RH and SS...

 

[sparkytooth]

I use mostly Sports Hard for Ring laps, but at times I may require the use of RM tyres for whatever situation.

 

[Marqus]

I use mediums to tame cars like the R8 Ultra (i.e., SMfront-SSrear)