Does the new NSX ruin the name

the original nsx was very radical and new. the tech was amazing for 1989. aluminum chassis, v-tec, even the vehicle architecture. vehicle dynamics was always more about handling balance and power to weight than brute power.

the new car does the same in terms of advancing tech. new lightweight materials for the chassis, hybrid drivetrain, electric sh awd. the e-sh awd system should make it handle extremely well, the current mechanical sh awd is one of the best in the world better than audis quattro or haldex's system. im expecting gtr levels of handling grip. that combined with low weight, it should be a beast around the corners.

honestly, if you look at the big picture of things, the planet cannot sustain 7 billion + people for long. and companies should and are being more responsible. so i think theyre trying their best to let us have our cake and eat it too.

hondas corporate philosophy has always been unique in the auto industry. most companies are after sales goals and being number one. honda doesnt care about being number one, just providing good products for people and sustaining business.

remember that honda is an engineering company at heart. they develop their own tech unlike other companies. they make their own transmissions, not contract to zf or getrag. they deveolp their own engines, unlike toyota w yamaha. they develop their own chassis and suspension tweaks, not use lotus engineering. they pride themselves in thier technical research deeply, which is why they might be a little behind these days. it takes time and money to develop a __ speed transmission or whatver new tech thats coming. its easier to contract it out and let suppliers fight for low costs. this is why honda is special. they do it all themsleves and they do it right.
 
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I don't get that though. I mean apart from some sort of hybrid technology, we really don't know much about the car. It looks gorgeous, albeit a bit cliche for modern design, and as long as it has RWD and a V6, in my opinion its a NSX. We know for sure it will be light weight though.
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In the video the elec power to the Front wheels were highlighted as well as the petrol power to the rear, It will be AWD
 
Whilst I haven't examined it in full I am loving one thing about this car: it looks like a proper sports/super car, and that's in keeping with the name, as I see a series 1 NSX fairly regularly and it still draws my breath.

I'm not so into this (mainly Japanese) thing about building cars with awesome performance, but "busy" styling and an upright kinda stance seemingly derived from sedans or developments of sedans such as the Lancer and Impreza. To me, the likes of the GTR and LFA are awesome cars performance-wise but about as stylish as a Trabant. This new NSX thankfully bucks that trend.
 
If everyone had stayed "traditional", then we would still have side valves and 5:1 Cr's. I'm glad that honda is finally remaking their flagship model. Gives Honda fans something to stand behind.
 
Bopop4
If everyone had stayed "traditional", then we would still have side valves and 5:1 Cr's. I'm glad that honda is finally remaking their flagship model. Gives Honda fans something to stand behind.
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Exactly.

If absolutely nothing else, it'll be a halo model for the brand, just like the original NSX was in 1990.
 
-> NSX Concept ruins the NSX name? ABSOLUTELY YES!!!

-> In my opinion, the NSX has to have a combination of F1-tech with the confort of an everyday car for drivers to enjoy. Simplicity, lightweight structure, and simple technology that makes (a lot of) sense. :)👍

^ Not a (possibly) overweight, techno-laden, AWD, IT-qualified-only of a car. :indiff:👎

-> This shows proof that Honda NA/Acura are relying on past successes to promote their current lineup, instead of breaking the mold and innovate like what they used to do. :indiff:

-> I think Honda shouldn't call it the NSX, it should be called NXS (as in Next eXperimental Sports car).
 
I just don't see it as an NSX. Not with Acura (aka we wish we were German so we could just get jobs at Audi) pushing the model. Call it the Acura RXSTRLV or something. Acura is a wholly worthless brand right now. All I can see in this thing is Acura, and not NSX.
 
The Vanishing Boy
-> NSX Concept ruins the NSX name? ABSOLUTELY YES!!!

-> In my opinion, the NSX has to have a combination of F1-tech with the confort of an everyday car for drivers to enjoy. Simplicity, lightweight structure, and simple technology that makes (a lot of) sense. :)👍

^ Not a (possibly) overweight, techno-laden, AWD, IT-qualified-only of a car. :indiff:👎

-> This shows proof that Honda NA/Acura are relying on past successes to promote their current lineup, instead of breaking the mold and innovate like what they used to do. :indiff:

-> I think Honda shouldn't call it the NSX, it should be called NXS (as in Next eXperimental Sports car).
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this. exactly.:guilty:
 
The Vanishing Boy
-> NSX Concept ruins the NSX name? ABSOLUTELY YES!!!

-> In my opinion, the NSX has to have a combination of F1-tech with the confort of an everyday car for drivers to enjoy. Simplicity, lightweight structure, and simple technology that makes (a lot of) sense. :)👍
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How exactly do we know the new NSX doesn't have any of this or come to this opinion? None of this information has been released. :confused:
^ Not a (possibly) overweight, techno-laden, AWD, IT-qualified-only of a car. :indiff:👎
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It'll obviously have some tech. behind it, but what's there to say it won't be the blend of F1-tech?
-> This shows proof that Honda NA/Acura are relying on past successes to promote their current lineup, instead of breaking the mold and innovate like what they used to do. :indiff:
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Wait, people have been asking Honda for years to bring the NSX, & now that they have, it's just them relying on past successes? And yet at the same time, you're hoping it doesn't have a bunch of things that would be breaking the mold (such as SH-AWD)?
 
Now, this is just conjecture, but it seems to me that it is Acura bringing back a legendary name plate to cash out on, rather than Honda spending the proper time to thoroughly develop a true successor to the NSX. Why haven't we seen any mules? I doubt there have been any. This idea of releasing an entire conceptual prototype, detailed down to the drivetrain and styling, before any real r&d has been done just smacks of selling nostalgia rather than trying to create something wonderful. The iron man implementation reinforces this.

I could easily be wrong, but this is my concern. I really don't like that Acura is debuting this model. What has Acura ever done? Nothing.

If it was Acura merely acting as a liaison for Honda, as with the original car, I'd be fine with it. But it just seems like Acura's marketing department (does Acura have any other departments?) is primarily responsible for the new concept. And I despise marketing people.
 
My problem with your theory that this is Acura instead of Honda doing is that Honda's CEO & President, Takanobu Ito, is the man behind this project just as he was around the original NSX.
So, I don't think this is Acura, I think this is the NSX's lead developer finally being able to bring the car back to production after he became appointed director of the company in 2009.

As for what Acura has done, how about it being the sole reason companies such as Lexus & Infiniti are around as well as Mazda who attempted a luxury line that never saw daylight?
 
interesting how the thread's all about a car which isn't even out yet. If it's rubbish, it's rubbish. If it's not, it's not. that simple. However, no-one can tell if it is or not now, because it's not done yet. Pointless to speculate at this point.
 
McLaren
My problem with your theory that this is Acura instead of Honda doing is that Honda's CEO & President, Takanobu Ito, is the man behind this project just as he was around the original NSX.
So, I don't think this is Acura, I think this is the NSX's lead developer finally being able to bring the car back to production after he became appointed director of the company in 2009.

As for what Acura has done, how about it being the sole reason companies such as Lexus & Infiniti are around as well as Mazda who attempted a luxury line that never saw daylight?
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Lexus and Infiniti were in development well before the Acura brand was available to consumers. So Acura essentially started with an 'also there' brand identity and I don't see how that's changed really. I suppose the history of the brand isn't totally relevant to this topic. I'm just skeptical of this new NSX. We'll see how it turns out.


Jim Prower
interesting how the thread's all about a car which isn't even out yet. If it's rubbish, it's rubbish. If it's not, it's not. that simple. However, no-one can tell if it is or not now, because it's not done yet. Pointless to speculate at this point.
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No offense, but isn't that what discussion boards, especially in an 'automotive news' section are all about? Speculation? Acura gave us nothing but a small preview. Of course people are going to speculate. It's too much fun not to!

Here's my take. I think it will be total shyte. If I'm wrong, you can search for this thread 3 years from now and say "I told you so!" when it turns out it wasn't shyte. You guys are too serious.
 
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Well i think its only being called an "Acura" here i nthe states. Over in Europe it will be the Honda NSX and presumably in other places as well. I beleive Honda is doing the gruntwork on this one and they want to compete with the GT-R, Vette etc
 
For those if you who forgot, the original NSX was canned because it sold poorly for years, and its price tag elevated with little difference to the actual car and its technology over its lifespan. What was once quite a giant-killer in 1990 was a bit deficient a decade-and-a-half later.

It's quite clear that making it unique is the only way it can survive...no car, save maybe the Miata, can survive for long in the market without occassional major changes to a new model and evolution of the existing product. Mysteriously, Honda rather rested on their laurels on the NSX for years, but increased the price of admission.

I don't see the point of bemoaning a car that hasn't publicly turned a wheel yet. Fox and the sour grapes, anyone?
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Lexus and Infiniti were in development well before the Acura brand was available to consumers. So Acura essentially started with an 'also there' brand identity and I don't see how that's changed really. I suppose the history of the brand isn't totally relevant to this topic. I'm just skeptical of this new NSX. We'll see how it turns out.
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No they were not. Let's not start making up things. Lexus became a luxury company in 1989. Infiniti did not become a company until 1989 as well.

Acura was founded in 1986 & the sheer success of the Acura Legend is why there are Japanese luxury brands. The only thing about your claim that could be true was Lexus' flagship LS beginning development in 1983. However, Acura itself was already well into development even before that & beat them to the market 3 years prior to the LS launch.

Acura has done plenty of things. Perhaps maybe researching before incorrectly blaming them for creation of this new NSX.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I just don't see it as an NSX. Not with Acura (aka we wish we were German so we could just get jobs at Audi) pushing the model. Call it the Acura RXSTRLV or something. Acura is a wholly worthless brand right now. All I can see in this thing is Acura, and not NSX.
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The concept was launched in Detroit, so it was natural for the car to be branded as an Acura, just like the original car was for the US market.

If it were launched anywhere else, it would've had a Honda badge on it...
 
And Acura wasn't intended to exist in Japan in 1989, so it is entirely possible that Honda will try to make it an Acura worldwide this time as a foundation to the oft-delayed launch of the brand in Japan.
 
Toronado
And Acura wasn't intended to exist in Japan in 1989, so it is entirely possible that Honda will try to make it an Acura worldwide this time as a foundation to the oft-delayed launch of the brand in Japan.
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But is there even a market for Acura in Japan. Everyone would know it's a Honda?
 
No i don't think it does ruin the name.. and although the details are limited at this early stage, i think it's very much in-keeping with the original NSX ethos imo... accurate steering/traction control/communicative yet forgiving/hi-tech aluminium monocoque/forged alloy suspension, basically all this results in 1 thing.... a true master of the art of cornering.

Granted, we have yet to learn what things the new NSX will carry over from the old 1.. but what we do know is that it will have SH-AWD.... which for me, is most certainly pointing in the right direction with regards to the cornering, if anything.. it could also make it even more capable in the wet, which.. let's face it, whether it's racing or everyday driving, in most parts of the world, it tends to rain sometimes... communicative yet forgiving, anyone? (i get the impression some original NSX fans seem to believe the NSX should be a pure back to basics racecar for the road.... but imo, it never was, i always saw it as a usable supercar that was also very capable on the track)

A few other things (slightly off topic), how do we know that racing drivers are not involved with this new development?... and even if they're not, does that mean Honda/Acura have unlearn't everything that Senna had taught and advised them with the development of the original?

Could it be that Honda/Acura felt the need to add SH-AWD/Hybrid tech to the NSX because of a possible increase in power?, maybe they think it's a good way to harness the increased power?... (remember they're not bound by the Gentleman's Agreement anymore, like they were with the original)

As for the use of the word Acura... i really can't see what the huge Hoo-Haa is all about.. i know it's not the same, but it reminds me a bit of when Nissan decided to drop the Skyline name from the GTR... i bet Nissan fans all over the world refused to buy GTR's on this alone :D
 
At 1ness
i know it's not the same, but it reminds me a bit of when Nissan decided to drop the Skyline name from the GTR... i bet Nissan fans all over the world refused to buy GTR's on this alone :D
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Nope, everyone just called it a Skyline because it has a GT-R badge and left it at that.
 
McLaren
No they were not. Let's not start making up things. Lexus became a luxury company in 1989. Infiniti did not become a company until 1989 as well.

Acura was founded in 1986 & the sheer success of the Acura Legend is why there are Japanese luxury brands. The only thing about your claim that could be true was Lexus' flagship LS beginning development in 1983. However, Acura itself was already well into development even before that & beat them to the market 3 years prior to the LS launch.

Acura has done plenty of things. Perhaps maybe researching before incorrectly blaming them for creation of this new NSX.
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I did not make up anything. My statement was true. Infiniti began development in 1985 and Lexus began development of the LS in 1983. Both of which were before 1986.

I'd like to know what Acura has done, significantly. I admit I'm not that well versed with their history. It seems like the original Legend was something, but the rest seem to be re-styled Civics and Accords.
 
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Eunos_Cosmo
I did not make up anything. My statement was true. Infiniti began development in 1985 and Lexus began development of the LS in 1983. Both of which were before 1986.
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Honda dates back that Acura was in development for a decade before it's founding, which means it started in 1976. And last I checked, that's before 1983 & 1985 which means your statement is not true; Acura brought the luxury Japanese brands to the US because of the Legend's success. Also note that while the flagship F1 began development in 1983, the name Lexus itself was not brought up until 1986 which was decided to help support the flagship luxury sedan & that's when the Lexus LS name plate was officially coined. Before that, it was going to remain a Toyota.

Regardless, Honda brought Acura onto the market before the others which means it is the first Japanese luxury brand. Being in development can not be listed as the first because cars in development have a 50/50 chance of being released to begin with.
 
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Toronado
And Acura wasn't intended to exist in Japan in 1989, so it is entirely possible that Honda will try to make it an Acura worldwide this time as a foundation to the oft-delayed launch of the brand in Japan.
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The UK press are already referring to it as a Honda. I expect, if it makes it to the UK, it'll be badged Honda. Lexus is the only Japanese luxury marque that's got strong footing here. Infiniti launched a year or two back and I've seen about two of them on the roads in that time. Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out of the UK again.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I'd like to know what Acura has done, significantly. I admit I'm not that well versed with their history. It seems like the original Legend was something, but the rest seem to be re-styled Civics and Accords.
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This may not be an Acura road car but the ARX P2 car is there greatest creation even though it was technically developed by Wirth Research and Honda Performance Development.

I agree that Acura is not a significant car maker. They dont scream luxury the way a Lexus does.

To me Acura and Infiniti are two ineffective brands. Toyota is the only one who has managed to make a succesful luxury brand. Lexus goes toe to toe with BMW Mercedes and Audi, Maybe not in handling, but in terms of luxury, comfort, interiors. Mercedes and Lexus scream luxury more than BMW and Audi which seem more performance oriented.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Now, this is just conjecture, but it seems to me that it is Acura bringing back a legendary name plate to cash out on, rather than Honda spending the proper time to thoroughly develop a true successor to the NSX.
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Sorry, but the irony of this statement and your GTP username is too much to ignore...here, have a Mazda-branded lampshade.
 

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