Download via PSN?

[mannix72]

Hello all,

I have searched the forums to find any relative posts to see wether GT5 will be available to download via the PSN, but didnt find anything.

Does anyone have any news on this matter?

If this topic has been discussed please direct me to the post.

Thank you.

 

[Famine]

It will not be available to download from PSN - it'll simply be too big.

 

[GTjazzabrandy]

Imagine having to download about 50 gig!

 

[TokyoDrift]

Imagine having to download about 50 gig!

At full line speed, overnight, I can download approximately 70GB between 11pm and 9am (my unlimited period). In one month, I downloaded a total of 350GB from my newsgroup provider, so 25GB/50GB is nothing special in itself.

However, over PSN, it would be a different ball game I'd imagine because I never seem to get decent speed compared to normal browsing.

 

[GTjazzabrandy]

Australias Internet is not that fast iirc.

 

[mannix72]

Thats a real bummer, I was hoping to play GT5 without having to repair the Blu-Ray player.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Peace.

 

[Punknoodle]

A little off topic, but seriously, if a game is available on disc, why would anyone want the downloaded version? Or is that just me, felling scared of all this non physical media change?

I like having a case, and a disc, and a manual. Always have the disc if someone gets corrupted on the hard drive, something cool for the collection. Plus being able to save hard drive space (Precious on my 60Gb, haven't upgraded)

Would the download be cheaper or something (If there was a download)? Because that, other than not having to put a disc in to load it up is the only thing I can think of that may be positives.

 

[hardvibes]

A little off topic, but seriously, if a game is available on disc, why would anyone want the downloaded version? Or is that just me, felling scared of all this non physical media change?

I like having a case, and a disc, and a manual. Always have the disc if someone gets corrupted on the hard drive, something cool for the collection. Plus being able to save hard drive space (Precious on my 60Gb, haven't upgraded)

Would the download be cheaper or something (If there was a download)? Because that, other than not having to put a disc in to load it up is the only thing I can think of that may be positives.

Not to mention that if you buy a full game (or something like GT5P) on the PSN you won't be able to sell it xD.

 

[Stonemonkey]

Not to mention that if you buy a full game (or something like GT5P) on the PSN you won't be able to sell it xD.

I'm hoping it won't be a game I'll want to sell. Also, I don't know if Sony would put a download version of a game on PSN that wouldn't be available to all PS3 (20Gb?) owners.

 

[hinklor]

At full line speed, overnight, I can download approximately 70GB between 11pm and 9am (my unlimited period). In one month, I downloaded a total of 350GB from my newsgroup provider, so 25GB/50GB is nothing special in itself.

However, over PSN, it would be a different ball game I'd imagine because I never seem to get decent speed compared to normal browsing.

Don't forget a ton of people only have 40/60 gb space on their ps3

 

[drivatar]

Not to mention that if you buy a full game (or something like GT5P) on the PSN you won't be able to sell it xD.

And you aren't able to even play it if someone tries to steal your OtherOS and you're locked out of PSN.

 

[TokyoDrift]

A little off topic, but seriously, if a game is available on disc, why would anyone want the downloaded version? Or is that just me, felling scared of all this non physical media change?

I like having a case, and a disc, and a manual. Always have the disc if someone gets corrupted on the hard drive, something cool for the collection. Plus being able to save hard drive space (Precious on my 60Gb, haven't upgraded)

Would the download be cheaper or something (If there was a download)? Because that, other than not having to put a disc in to load it up is the only thing I can think of that may be positives.

Simple answer - convenience. If the game runs off the hard drive without needing an original Blu-ray, it means the game is always there to play regardless of what is in the drive, plus you get a bit of a speed advantage in terms of load times too, but that can vary quite consideraby.

I used to think the same way about my music - liked having the CD etc. to add to my collection. Now my "collection" is stuck away in boxes in the loft, and now everything is a bunch of MP3s on my NAS. Same with my DVDs - all of them now exist as ISO images on my NAS.

Downloadable versions of Blu-ray games are often cheaper due to not needing Blu-ray production and associated supply chain costs, as is the case with the recent GTA4 Episodes. RRP is £34.99 for both episodes on one disc, but you can download them for £13.99 each (I think) from the PSN store. The only downside is, if you download them, you still need the original game to play them, which could add cost for some people. As ever though, shop around online and you can find the stand-alone Blu-ray version for much less money than the PSN downloads, so you pays your money and you takes your choice.

Personally, I'd love a download-only version of GT5, or at least the ability to 100% install the game and have it tied to your PSN account or some other protection so you don't need the game disc in.

 

[BZSIN]

RRP is £34.99 for both episodes on one disc, but you can download them for £13.99 each (I think) from the PSN store.

True, but it's extremely rare for retailers to charge the RRP for games. Even before the GTA episodes were released you could buy them cheaper than the combined total of the PSN downloads. On the Movie Store you can buy the films on disc cheaper than the downloads (which have less content due to not having any extras) in most cases, and it was the same with Prologue. I honestly don't see the savings being passed on to consumers anytime soon, not when it means extra profit.

On topic: I don't think it will be available on PSN because of the sheer size of it, as others have said, although having the option is always nice. My internet speed sucks, though, so it would still be the old-fashioned disc method for me

 

[TokyoDrift]

True, but it's extremely rare for retailers to charge the RRP for games. Even before the GTA episodes were released you could buy them cheaper than the combined total of the PSN downloads.

Which is exactly what I said if you had taken the time to read it all!

As ever though, shop around online and you can find the stand-alone Blu-ray version for much less money than the PSN downloads, so you pays your money and you takes your choice.

 

[mannix72]

Has PD or Sony confirmed that it wont be available to download, or have they mentioned anything about it?
It would be convenient in my case, as I wont have to fork out 150 euro or so, plus whatever the cost of the game. 200+ euro.

I agree, there is nothing like tearing the plastic off the cover of a new game, but unfortunately for me, (and many others out there I guess), I have been cursed with a shoddy Blu-Ray player.

 

[Famine]

Has PD or Sony confirmed that it wont be available to download, or have they mentioned anything about it?

No. Kazunori Yamauchi has. He said the main game file is simply too large and someone with a slow connection could buy it "by mistake".

 

[DaveS1138]

Sony have also said that they do not want any more large games on PSN.

http://kotaku.com/5463102/dont-plan...=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+kotaku/full+(Kotaku)

"Part of the reason for that is broadband", he elaborates. "We have an advantage with PlayStation 3 from an optical media perspective because a Blu-ray disc contains 50 gigs. Maybe this point will come at some time, but today to download 50 gigs of data before you play a game, you could probably go buy a car, bring it home, put your family into it, drive to the store by and bring the game home by the time you [could download it]."

 

[lbsf1]

Guys.
You can download burnout paradise from psn. Burnout is pretty big it has a massive island in high detail and quite alot of cars, (admitted nowhere near as many as gt5 will) a highly detailed damage system, a highly developed online system.

I can't see gt5 being a much bigger a game so why couldn't gt5 be on the psn store?

 

[Famine]

Guys.
You can download burnout paradise from psn. Burnout is pretty big it has a massive island in high detail and quite alot of cars, (admitted nowhere near as many as gt5 will) a highly detailed damage system, a highly developed online system.

I can't see gt5 being a much bigger a game so why couldn't gt5 be on the psn store?

Because Kazunori Yamauchi said not. Next question-without-reading-the-thread?

 

[squishydk]

Pros and cons anyways. I have GT5P as DL, and while it was ½ the price of a disc, and I can play it without having to find the disc and put it it, there is still one huge minus. Internet! I need to be connected to the internet to play, while this is not a problem most of the time, sometimes it can be. If PSNetwork is down, so is your game. If your ISP have problems = no game. Etc.

So all in all I will rather have it on a disc, with option to install it for faster loads.

If i recall the paradise was used as promotion for PSN along with a few other titles. And paradise is not a big game in any way compared to many others.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Pros and cons anyways. I have GT5P as DL, and while it was ½ the price of a disc, and I can play it without having to find the disc and put it it, there is still one huge minus. Internet! I need to be connected to the internet to play, while this is not a problem most of the time, sometimes it can be. If PSNetwork is down, so is your game. If your ISP have problems = no game. Etc.

So all in all I will rather have it on a disc, with option to install it for faster loads.

If i recall the paradise was used as promotion for PSN along with a few other titles. And paradise is not a big game in any way compared to many others.

A very good point squishy, but I wonder why the PSN version needed to be connected to the internet while the disc version did not. Was it something to do with stopping game sharing in some way?

 

[Dave A]

I would presume so, I have the disk version so I don't know about the having to be online with the DL version but PS Store downloads they are linked to your PSN so if anything needs to authenticate itself before it starts then you would need to be signed in to the PSN to do so. With a disk version then the disk itself contains the authentication.

 

[TokyoDrift]

I would presume so, I have the disk version so I don't know about the having to be online with the DL version but PS Store downloads they are linked to your PSN so if anything needs to authenticate itself before it starts then you would need to be signed in to the PSN to do so. With a disk version then the disk itself contains the authentication.

Same here, just have the disk version, which incidentaly has been lent out to several friends over the years to save them spending a bit of cash!

 

[FoolKiller]

Guys.
You can download burnout paradise from psn. Burnout is pretty big it has a massive island in high detail and quite alot of cars, (admitted nowhere near as many as gt5 will) a highly detailed damage system, a highly developed online system.

I can't see gt5 being a much bigger a game so why couldn't gt5 be on the psn store?

Burnout Paradise was only 3.25GB. I had to install a larger file to my hard drive from my disc-based GT5P. The Big Surf Island was a separate DLC. Burnout Paradise can't be compared to games like GT5 or even Forza 3, which required two DVDs, because it is significantly smaller as the base game only requires one single layer DVD.


When you consider that GT5 Prologue is bigger than Burnout Paradise in its download form, how big do you expect GT5 to be?

 

[squishydk]

Yes it has to verify the game via PSN, so you need initial connection at least. Though 95% of the time that shouldn't be an issue, it is still anoying the last 5% makes you not able to play the game.

As long as you can live with that, then there really are some good things about DL. In Denmark fx, i could save 50% on both paradise, and GT5P via DL compared to cheapest shop-disc version. And with no disc to swap (I play quite a few different games atm) it is faster and more easy to just push 1 button on the pad.

But overall, I at least, wouldn't recommend buying full GT5 or any similar games via DL, if it was available.

 

[tyl0r_r]

Sony has said there won't be more full sized (retail disc sized) games coming to the PSN. It was in an interview in IGN I read about six months ago. I'm not doing to go dig up the source now, but somebody was asking if Sony has said it's not coming to PSN. They haven't directly, but they have said /nothing/ that size is coming to PSN, so that covers it.

The interview I read referenced games like Burnout as cases which will not be happening any further. Reasons included the fact that most people's PS3 HD is between 40 - 80 GB and the general unsuitability of downloading a file of that size. Regardless of whether some of us here have nice connections, the vast majority do not. Sony acknowledged this.

That's the best I can do, but all said and done, you're just not getting GT5 on PSN.

And for my part, I want it on disc. I don't care that it's more convenient to have it on the hard drive and I don't think the argument is analogous to that of a music collection because portability is not an issue in this case. Music as files is wonderful, I can carry 1000 albums in my pocket and listen to them whenever I like. I'm not carrying around a PS3 to play any time I feel like whipping it out, it's sitting at home. With all my shiny discs and their pretty cases. Just how I like it.

The only advantage that isn't accompanied by a disadvantage is that you could play the game as a file even if your BluRay drive is busted. Unfortunately for OP, it isn't going to happen in this case .