Drag suspension tuning

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didn't mean to argue with you bro just wondered if you knew how to get the dirt off yar tires
It wasn't directed at you Chris, I just meant this blew up in general over something as simple as a misunderstood sentence. I know you can clean your tires; I understand real is roughly equivalent to low given circumstances, but there are reasons for using low as well. Reasons that I won't say because I don't want to start another argument. But no, low grip isn't a driving aid. Most people don't understand that low provides more consistent grip than real, and that is what I was trying to explain when this all started.
 
It wasn't directed at you Chris, I just meant this blew up in general over something as simple as a misunderstood sentence. I know you can clean your tires; I understand real is roughly equivalent to low given circumstances, but there are reasons for using low as well. Reasons that I won't say because I don't want to start another argument. But no, low grip isn't a driving aid. Most people don't understand that low provides more consistent grip than real, and that is what I was trying to explain when this all started.

Why not ? Why are you guys so afraid of a discussion ? We can't talk about something without you guys deeming it "bitching, drama or an argument".

Are you simply worried it's going to reveal some truth that reinforces what we are saying about arcade vs realistic ?
 
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Agreed.

This is an on topic discussion.
No malice from me here, just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Shake, removing yourself from the conversation now isn't helping at all.

No one is stopping you stating your case.
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Why not ? Why are you guys so afraid of a discussion ? We can't talk about something without you guys deeming it "bitching, drama or an argument".
There are 2 reason why:

1) This topic is about drag suspension tuning, not room settings or GT6 physics. Everything in the last 15 posts has been off-topic and may result in this guy's thread being closed because of unnecessary conversation.

2) I'm not in the mood to argue, especially against people I have no issues with or want any issues with.
 
There are 2 reason why:

1) This topic is about drag suspension tuning, not room settings or GT6 physics. Everything in the last 15 posts has been off-topic and may result in this guy's thread being closed because of unnecessary conversation.

2) I'm not in the mood to argue, especially against people I have no issues with or want any issues with.


1) So I'll create a new thread ?

2) Chill out and have a discussion, because I am certainly not arguing.
 
There are 2 reason why:

1) This topic is about drag suspension tuning, not room settings or GT6 physics. Everything in the last 15 posts has been off-topic and may result in this guy's thread being closed because of unnecessary conversation.

Bit rich mate... 5 of those posts are yours.

Again. I'm not arguing, just want to get some sound reasoning, from your good self, on the matter.
 
I might also just add this. Having grip settings to real also changes how you tune you're car. Now you tuning you're car with grip set to low, then you're car will tend to spin a little. Hence you tune in you're room settings where grip is low, thinking you got a beast launch, then come into another room wondering why you bog.. Well maybe thats the reason.

Tune Grip setting on low - Can't be used best in real grip setting. (You going to bog, and will have a bad day)
Tune Grip setting on real - You can use it in a low grip setting room. (I guess with grip settings you got yaself a hybrid car)
If I don't make sense awesome! Ignore me.
 
Personally I think in a pro lobby during a comp the real setting should be used, you need to be mindful of dirt on your tires just as you need to be mindful of water (tires splashing water from the waterbox and having it drip) in real life.

In a casual lobby with random people joining and the guys who are ignorant of the effects of dirt then I'd set the lobby on "low". Nothing worse than waiting for jumpers and general starting line BS to race someone and have him spin out due to his tires being dirty, it's just wasted time in a casual lobby.

I feel there's a time and situation where both real and low should be used....as for bog I don't think I've ever noticed a difference, maybe just lucky
 
You weren't around in 2010-2011 when this place was crawling with drag racers. I was leader of one of the best teams around for a long time. Smoke here was actually a member for a while.

In fact most of the guys still around were at one point or another.


Hay slash lol, you are spot on. I was on here and gt5 from first day drop. I've settled down now although at first I was a drama case back in the day.

I still can't beleive I was once so high on tunnel drag. Never thought I'd be obsessed over 1/4.
 
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Perfectionist tune.
 
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Perfectionist tune.
Blistering 90 mph at the shadow. Time for a schwimwagen comp. :D
 
Some of us tune low horsepower cars like the Schwim & Kubelwagens. We believe in challenging ourselves with cars that are tough to tune, and a 130 horsepower AWD amphibious vehicle would be classified as challenging.
For a 122hp car I did a 1/4 mile in 15.945. lol:lol:
 
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