Dreams, seeing into the future?

[sicbeing]

Sometimes I feel like I've lived, or dreamed something before, sort of like Deja Vu, but more specific. Sometimes I'll be walking through a store, and a series of random events will happen (I'll see someone with a blue hat, i'll then kneel down to tie my shoe lace,or etc) and I'll think to myself, holy crap, this has happened before, in a dream!..

I know that we dream a lot as humans, and I know that a lot of the time, we don't really remember them the next day. Like, we may dream of a river of pudding, but the next day we won't really realise, "hey, i dreamed of a river of pudding last night.."

Do you think that it's possible, that while we sleep, we dream SO much, that we basically dream of MILLIONS of wierd different random scenarios? So when something happens in everyday life, and it coems close to something that we randomly dream, we realise holy crap I dreamed this before!

 

[Alfaholic]

Sounds plausible. Especially the close match bit.

Otherwise, it could be some strange quirk of quantum physics or something...

DISCLAIMER: I know nothing about dream science. Don't believe anything I say on the subject. I'm just making conversation.

 

[Slick Rick]

Ive felt this before. It feels like Deja Vu but a lot stronger/specific.

 

[daan]

Sometimes I feel like I've lived, or dreamed something before, sort of like Deja Vu, but more specific. Sometimes I'll be walking through a store, and a series of random events will happen (I'll see someone with a blue hat, i'll then kneel down to tie my shoe lace,or etc) and I'll think to myself, holy crap, this has happened before, in a dream!..

I get that too. Sometimes, when I get the I've-done-this-before feeling, I'll then do something completely random, only to get really freaked out when I realise that I did that "last time" too...

 

[Touring Mars]

That's an interesting idea, about going through so many possibilities in your dreams that you are bound to see something that matches in real life afterwards... I've certainly 'felt' this before too, but I can't say it feels any different to plain old deja-vu.. The problem is that one only seems to feel like one has seen a scenario before either after of during the experience, but never before... It's almost like the opposite of a prediction... far from foresight, it's hindsight... it's always 'after the fact', which raises the issue of whether you are really remembering something or whether it just feels like you are.

I think that it is possible to dream a scenario and for it to happen in real life by sheer coincidence - but it's not only extremely unlikely, it would just be that - a coincidence. Saying that, if I marry Sharon Stone and shoot Phil Spector at our wedding, I'll take it all back

 

[sicbeing]

I think that it is possible Saying that, if I marry Sharon Stone and shoot Phil Spector at our wedding, I'll take it all back

👍

 

[Kylehnat]

Dreams are generally a combination of what happened to you that day, what's been on your mind recently, and the subconscious mess that fills your brain. The resulting dream therefore feels very familiar, yet oddly clairvoyant (which probably comes from the subconscious). Recurring dreams add complications, too. Sometimes I'll have a dream, and when I wake up, I can't tell whether it was a dream, something that actually happened a while ago, or a repeat of a dream I already had. It might be all of the above...

No matter what, sleeping is the best part of the day .

 

[Wolfe]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2699108#post2699108

I think that it is possible to dream a scenario and for it to happen in real life by sheer coincidence - but it's not only extremely unlikely, it would just be that - a coincidence. Saying that, if I marry Sharon Stone and shoot Phil Spector at our wedding, I'll take it all back

It's almost more likely that you're seeing into the future than for it all to be a random coincidence.

 

[tait]

Dreams are generally a combination of what happened to you that day, what's been on your mind recently, and the subconscious mess that fills your brain. The resulting dream therefore feels very familiar, yet oddly clairvoyant (which probably comes from the subconscious).

I've had it happen to me where the time passed between the dream and when it actually reoccurs in reality is a year, or even two years, enough time to completely change basically everything.

I agree with Wolfe. This type of thing has happened to me plenty of times. What gets me is that everything is exactly the same as I dreamed it to be. When I catch on in reality as to what's going on, that's the same time the dream ended. To think that it's a coincidence might be pushing it; you have to think of all the variables (my thoughts, what the girl is saying, where I am, what he's wearing, the list goes on) within the scenario, and all the possible combinations. The likely hood of the whole thing being a mere coincidence happening would be staggering.

But yeah, it happens to me a lot. I'm just glad to hear it happens to other people also. What bothers me is the feeling of how I always seem to recall dreaming of the situation so easily. It's not just a "oh, this all feels kinda like deja-vu", it's more of a "I remember dreaming about this during this time in my life, and waking up thinking of what happened".

 

[Tornado]

This has happened to me so many times that I simply ignore it these days.
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[SolidSnake15]

Some of us (including me) believe humans have some kind of subconscious whatever that allows a brief view into the future. Something that comes to us in the form of a dream. It's something that we can't quite remember in full detail.

 

[socomplayer2]

I get that too. Sometimes, when I get the I've-done-this-before feeling, I'll then do something completely random, only to get really freaked out when I realise that I did that "last time" too...

I do that too. I try to trip my Deja Vu up but it never works. The weird stuff I do is in my Deja Vu too.

 

[Spock]

I do that too. I try to trip my Deja Vu up but it never works. The weird stuff I do is in my Deja Vu too.

Are You Mad? That Would Rip The Fabric Of Space And Time! Don't Do It!

 

[McLaren]

All the time. It's mainly minor things though such as a person handing $5 over to someone or someone saying something in a specific place.

Although, I do wish that dream of the Diablo in my garage would be a sight-into-the-future.

 

[Wolfe]

I do that too. I try to trip my Deja Vu up but it never works. The weird stuff I do is in my Deja Vu too.

Are You Mad? That Would Rip The Fabric Of Space And Time! Don't Do It!

Actually, as I explained in the post I linked to, I sometimes use the "experience" of the déjà vécu to change what I say or do. It definitely isn't an entirely conscious effort, though, if at all.

 

[Philly]

I had a dream there was a really bad ice/snow storm in Kansas City of all places. And then when I looked at the weather it actually happened.

 

[Year.Zero]

Recently I've had this happened to me 3 or 4 times, in about the last month or so. And even more specific than you describe—I've had exact events play out twice in exactly the same way, roughly two days after dreaming them. So far they've all happened at work, which...I hope doesn't "mean" anything.

 

[Jedi2016]

Happens to me pretty often. They stick with me simply because of how accurate they are.. generally, I can't see things that specifically, it's more of a general sense of how things will play out rather than a specific sequence of events like happens in the dreams.

Now, if I could just dream myself some lotto numbers...

 

[SolidSnake15]

Happens to me pretty often. They stick with me simply because of how accurate they are.. generally, I can't see things that specifically, it's more of a general sense of how things will play out rather than a specific sequence of events like happens in the dreams.

Now, if I could just dream myself some lotto numbers...

*uses computer to hack into his dreams, '15 26 32 03 21'*

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I'll just add to this old thread, I fully agree with this. I remember one time vividly that I dreamed about talking with the girl I liked at the time, and she was wearing this jumper, next day she was wearing that exact jumper and I had never seen it before that dream. I've had other moments but I can't remember them. Here's a quick theory, maybe we do dream about the future at times, and what we consciously recognise as Deja Vu our sub-conscious mind recgnises it as having just played out the prediction, so in the hope that creating a dream it might come true, sometimes our sub-conscious mind makes its own dreams including our wildest desires eg. Falling in love, becoming a race car driver, having special powers etc. Just a theory.

 

[Philly]

The only dreams of summer I remember are me being caught in a volcano, me being shot at a football game and my car getting stolen while I was at some ADHD rehab/treatment place thingy, all in one night. None have come true. Theory schmeory.

I did break up with my girlfriend at the end of summer, which I guess is sorta like her being stolen by my best friend which I also dreamed that night.

 

[wfooshee]

The future and the past are inaccessible. The future is unknowable, but you can plan for it. The past is unchangeable, but you can learn from it.

Trying to do otherwise is a waste of, . . . um, . . . time.

So to speak.

 

[Dave A]

I'll just add to this old thread, I fully agree with this. I remember one time vividly that I dreamed about talking with the girl I liked at the time, and she was wearing this jumper, next day she was wearing that exact jumper and I had never seen it before that dream. I've had other moments but I can't remember them. Here's a quick theory, maybe we do dream about the future at times, and what we consciously recognise as Deja Vu our sub-conscious mind recgnises it as having just played out the prediction, so in the hope that creating a dream it might come true, sometimes our sub-conscious mind makes its own dreams including our wildest desires eg. Falling in love, becoming a race car driver, having special powers etc. Just a theory.

The chances are you had seen that jumper before but you just couldn't recall it consciously. As far as I can recall from how I've read our memories work is that everything we see and hear is stored it's just a matter of where we store it making it more or less acessible to our conscous thoughts. Things we focus on are stored so they are easier to access, things we see in passing and don't think about are stored but arn't easilly accessible. So the chances are you had seen that jumper before but just never conscously realised it. The future is not set, there's no fate but what we make for ourselves.

 

[DustDriver]

I can totally relate to people here.
It has happened that I had a conversation with someone and I already knew what he/she was going to say because I dreamt of it before.

Sometimes this also happens with movies I've seen for the first time and I already knew what is going to happen in the next scene (including dialogue) without seeing/reading a single commercial, review or trailer before I went to see it. (And no, the movie wasn't that predictable)
When I said that to my parents afterwards they claimed that this deja-vu is caused by 1 eye sending information faster to your brain, so that when the information from the other eye arrives it creates a deja-vu feeling.
I have no clue if this is even remotely correct though.

 

[niky]

Here's the thing.

We don't really see the world.

That's right.

All our observations and perceptions of the world are filtered through our preconceptions of the world. When you look around the room... what you actually see in detail is the point you're focusing on. Everything else is noted, but not directly observed... your brain fills in the gaps by itself based on what it knows should be there.

That's why we, as a species, are afraid of the dark... our brains fill in the gaps in our observations with what it believes is there.

And in our dreams, what we've seen, heard and felt during the day is rehashed, reorganized and incorporated into that portion of our brain that fills in the gaps in perception... which is why de ja vu is so rampant... you feel you've seen/heard/experienced something before because your brain filters your perceptions based on what you've seen/heard/experienced in the past.

 

[G.T]

I remember not so long ago being freaked out by a dream telling me GTP 9 was going to be upgraded by the time I wake up. No exact release date was given by Jordan at all, but that exact night GTP had upgraded!!

 

[Touring Mars]

Theory schmeory.

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I remember one time vividly that I dreamed about talking with the girl I liked at the time, and she was wearing this jumper, next day she was wearing that exact jumper and I had never seen it before that dream.

This reminds me of something that a so-called psychic might say - for such a potentially significant phenomenon, it doesn't half generate the most banal things imaginable. Now, if you had dreamed that a piece of falling masonry on the corner of Jones and 5th Street would kill you at 10.23 am as you were popping out for your morning coffee, that would be pretty helpful - in comparison, psychic jumper prediction seems a little surplus to requirements.

Psychic frauds like John Edward and James van Praagh produce a seemingly endless torrent of this bunk, and they get away with it precisely because they do get some things right - not because they are uniquely talented, but because a) they have a team of researchers b) they are dishonest about their methods and c) their techniques guarantee atleast some level of success. Except they go well beyond jumper prediction - amazingly, they can perceive complete wardrobe ensembles of people they have never met, yet oddly they seem less able to pick up things of slightly greater import, like whether or not they are alive or dead (a pretty basic one, really), or indeed whether that person is (was) a psychotic murderer ("he manages a group well")

It has happened that I had a conversation with someone and I already knew what he/she was going to say because I dreamt of it before.

Sounds like Deja Vu to me - I've experienced this too, but I'm pretty sure that I only thought that I had dreamed it. If you actually had written a detailed transcript of your dream immediately after having had it (which is alot harder than it sounds) and it matched exactly a future event, then I'd be pretty impressed, although if you are a participant in the conversation, it is very hard to prove that you are not making the whole thing a self-fulfilling prophecy i.e. if you are doing something deliberately because it is similar to something you dreamed about.

Here's the thing.

We don't really see the world.

That's right.

Pounds, shillings and pence, anyone?

 

[Blake]

I’ve had this a number of times too. The fact that it’s so prevalent makes me curious as to what’s going on. The idea that we run through so many scenarios in our head and that when one pans out we can then distinctly recall dreaming about it seems likely, rather than it being a significant dream at the time (i.e. the dream only becomes significant enough to remember when it does pan out).

 

[Wenders]

I have had a few instances of dreams that have come true. When I was much younger, and working in a bank, I dreamt that we got held up. Not really an unusual dream to have when working in a bank, something that is always in the back of your mind plus back then there was always regular training on what to do. About 3-4 weeks afterwards we got held up. I didn't think too much of the dream just thought it was a weird coincidence. About 18 months later I had a similar dream and a few weeks later we got held up. Still didn't think a whole lot of it. 6 months later it happened again, it was now starting to freak me out a little. About a year later I had another dream, this time I actually mentioed it to someone as soon as I had the dream. The next day we had a training on bank hold ups and I felt rather uneasy over it which was unusual for me. I was in a relieving position at the time and by the end of that week I was given a permanent position at another branch. At the end of my first week at this new branch I was in the lunch room for afternoon tea break and one of the girls came upstairs to say that the branch I was at the previous week had just been held up. Apparently I went white as a ghost at the news. I should have been there and been the teller.
Still not 100% convinced I am predicting the future but may have to take an unplanned vacation if I have another dream.

The other instance was when I was little, I had this recurring dream of driving past this building, rather insignificant dream as nothing happened in the dream just that it happened again and again over the years. Years later when I was living in Scotland I drove past the building from my dream. It was a local high school so unlikley I would have seen it on TV or anything.

 

[Philly]

That's why we, as a species, are afraid of the dark... our brains fill in the gaps in our observations with what it believes is there.

A few friends and I actually had a really interesting discussion about this last night and involving underground ghosts in Edinburgh. Apparently you can see things around you like in your peripheral vision and in the reflection of your glasses but not straight in front of you. Our conclusion was that since you can't actually see what's in those parts of your vision, your brain will put things there or will try to make something recognizable if you just get a hint that there is something there. And in this case it would have been ghosts because the tour guide would have had your brain thinking about ghosts.

We also talked a little about how this guy saw a ghost that supposedly looked like a young kid. Later on in the tour, the guide started talking about said young kid. Perhaps his brain had "seen" something but not made out what it was but as soon as it was suggested that there was a young kid, his brain immediately changed all memories of that particular instance to being said little kid?