Drift description?

[Greycap]

Can someone tell me the difference between drifting and sliding around corners at high speed? Does a "real" drift involve wheel spinning etc.

If this has been discussed (I didn't find anything) just give me a link and close this thread. Thanks in advance

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Ehg, I dont think I REALLY know the difference. But I think it's that....in a slide, you dont throttle control and such to extend the drift.

A drift is WITH throttle control, to get around a whole turn.

For example: you can slide sideways on the straight of lets say Fuji, but you cant drift it (only with Haki Rochu or something like that, but I dun like it)

 

[Ske]

There's some relevance in this thread:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59425

... but I couldn't find a direct match right away, interesting question though and I'm sure a few people have strong opinions on this (after all, this IS teh intarweb) I'd rename the thread title to descripe the topic though, or you're begging for a close

In my eyes, a drift is a controlled or initiated slide (or one that you can convince others is controlled ). The best way to control a slide in a RWD car is through wheelspin and countersteering. AWD and FWD drifts are still called drifts afaik, even though they don't fit "the bill" perfectly (zero counter, handbraking).

 

[Gen.]

To slide sideways while moving because of loss of traction. This is what came up for "Skid", so it's a very broad definition for when a car loses grip with the road.

A drift becomes a drift when the grip lost between the tyre and road is made up by the slip angle. When the slip angle comes into the equation, the car technically has grip again because of the driver's regain of control.

I think I got this right.

 

[Funkshen]

Ill live this one to Tank, Delphic, or rsmith...

 

[ViXeN]

hmmm, I'd say the main difference is that the one is on purpose (drift) and the other is pushing the limit's while grip racing (slide)...

I "slide" my RX2 on the exit of some bends when racing IRL, I wouldn't consider it drifting and I don't try to do it as it slows you down...

 

[d3p0]

You could use a slide in traditional racing to, for example, slow the car down and you could call that 'drifting'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)

 

[rsmithdrift]

There is no official rules on what is and is not drifting, but these are the parameters I hold true.

First I would like to point out that ANY TIME YOU ARE MOVING IN A FORWARD DIRECTION AT AN ANGLE TO THE DIRECTION THE CAR IS MOVING YOU ARE IN A DRIFT. Other than that these are the ways that I justify a drift, or take the drift badge away from the slide.

* denotes that there is an exception to the rule

1. *You are on a paved surface, not dirt or grass, or wall riding, *
2. If you are going at least 5mph the entire time of the slide,
3. *You have atleast 5 degrees of angle the entire time of the slide, *
4. *You ARE STILL SOMWHAT IN CONTROL OF THE CAR DURING THE SLIDE, *
5. *You did not spin out at any time during the slide, this would also violate #3, *

That is it, notice that there is an exception for all of them except for #2 as you MUST be moving forward in some way, shape, or form to be drifting, you can't drift at a stand still.
Also notice that the type of initiation, the amount of angle above 5*, the amount (if any) of wheelspin, NONE OF THIS MATTERS FOR THE ACT OF DRIFTING. If you are talking about the organized sport of drifting, then they all have different rule books determinining drift scores and safety regulations and what not. Go to D1GP.com, FormulaD.com, etc.

Exception to #1: If you only get off the road for a second or two, or only get two wheels off, then you are still drifting as long as the majority of the slide was on a paved surface. As for wall riding if you lightly tap a wall in a way that doesn't/wouldn't do major damage in real life, a light wall tap is considered a drift technique to some people.

Exception to #3: If you immediately start sliding in the opposite direction, then that is considered a link drift and the drift continues on. Once you fall below 5* without linking, the drift ended at that point, it also started at the point the slide iinitially hit 5*. The length of your drift is the distance between these two points.

Exception to #4: If you loose control but then regain it again, it is still counted as a drift as long as all the other conditions/exceptions were satisfied.

Exception to #5: Pulling a 360 into, out of, or during a drift is concidered drifting as long as all the other conditions/exceptions were satisfied. Same goes for beyond 90* angle drifting.

Sorry it was so long, but you asked for it.

 

[Carlos]

Verry nicely done rsmithdrift! I do 90degrees + with AWD, it's really easy.. And 360's, is that before a drift or is it in the drift so he does 360 and drift's further again..???

 

[rsmithdrift]

Verry nicely done rsmithdrift! I do 90degrees + with AWD, it's really easy.. And 360's, is that before a drift or is it in the drift so he does 360 and drift's further again..???

You can pull it at any time as long as you keep moving above 5mph and don't go flying off of the road or hit a wall. So you could say drift to the right, then at the link point 360 to the left, then pull out of it sideways drifting either to the right or the left. Or you could 360 to start a drift, or to end it, but those don't look as cool.

Try a 360 in the right hander before the hairpin at Midfield. Slide the left hander, then link right into the 360 and link out of it into a left hand drift through the hairpin. 💡

PS. I've seen that dude in you avatar pull a 360 into a corner and continued drifting out of it into the first turn of the drift course in Atlanta. 👍 (in practice) And I see Sam Hubinette and Tarzan Yomada doing it all the time in there drift Vipers.