Drift Noob,

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Whaaaatta-Studd
Hey guys, I'm new to drifting in general, but I can't seem to get it with my G27, I tried over and over again in numerous cars, I tried an RX7, tried a 300zx, tried an M3, tried a Viper, I just can't seem to do it.


I clutch drop, swerve into the corner, e-brake, I feel like I am doing something wrong because I can get the first part of the corner, I just can't seem to link any together. I try to just get a nice bit of smoke but everytime I do, I just end up spinning out.

Any pointers?

PS
I use an M3 with comfort soft tires.
 
same problem myself buddy , cant drift with my steering wheel just keeps going wrong one way or another ... all ive been told so far is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE ...
 
yea in the end i gave up .. dont have the patience and will end up braking wheel haha ..might give it another go later ..there is a few videos on youtube could help you out
 
Just have to be careful and try pick the right time to bring back the wheel from opposite lock.

You really need a proper set-up for a wheel too I think, I tried with my G25 recently just on a table and it was a waste of time and even though the G25 is far better than the old LGTpro, I was able to drive much better on that on GT4 and rally games etc than I could on the G25 just because I had a proper seat, frame and seating position.
 
going to get an old car seat and weld some metal tubing together hopefully make myself a good setup for my DFGT
 
While.your in the drift drop down a gear so your redlining it sends more power to the wheels and start in 3rd too
If he is spinning why does he want more power to the drive wheels?

Start in thrid and drive once you reach the start of the corner rip the e and downshift.into second and control the gas through the turn and you should be good
This will not work, a corner may need a particular gear and running in 2nd will do nothing but limit the car on certain corners.

Do not concern yourself with gears, there are 2 issues with gears you need to be aware of, 1 avoid 1st at all costs, it kills drifts. 2 if you hear the engine getting "bogged down" (ie losing RPM) while sideways your in to high a gear and go down one, but this drop into 2nd "rule" is nonsense.

I'm going to outline the best method for you to get started, what im about to say is not the golden key to learning how to drift such a thing does not exist, there is no car no setting no teaching and no lessons that will just make it get it right away, keep that in mind.

1) Find ONE car you like and stick with it. The logic behind this is every car controls a lil differently, and if your going from car to car to car all your doing is making yourself relearn how each of the cars feel and behave, so find a single car you like the feel of, maybe give it a lil more power and suspension and just go from there.

2) Pick a simple track and stick with it. This is the same logic as before, if you run 1 track you will get used to the line you need to take and the speeds to take corners. By sticking with 1 car and 1 track you are left to learn 1 thing, how a car feels when sideways. *I recommend Tsukuba since its short, the corners are all similar but it offered a few challenging ones when you want to test yourself.)

3) Install an LSD. Alot of people say its not needed and I ran my FC rx7 without one fine, then I put it in and it made the car alot more predictable. Here's a quick lesson on LSDs for you. Most cars come with an open diff stock, the problem with this is when a tire (or in this case tires) lose traction the power from the engine wants to take the path of least resistance. so whatever tire has less grip most of the engine power will go to that tire making the power at each tire unbalanced and the car behave oddly. an LSD will lock the tires in certain situations and make the power at each drive wheel equal making the car more predictable.

4) Stick with handbrakes for an initiation technique until you gain more experience. I personally cant use the clutch technique since I lack a wheel with one, but I can faint and an issue with fainting is the tail kicking out is alot more "dramatic" then other methods due to the momentum of the swaying. the handbrake is VERY predictable in how it will effect the car and when it will cause a loss of traction..so give it a slight tug (or button press) and turn into the corner, at that point release and then its throttle and countersteer.

5) Practice. Drifting is about a fine balance in various things you do to the car to get it sideways, keep it sideways and get it through a corner safely, no amount of words, videos or teachings will replace you actually driving and trying to notice what is happening when things go wrong, if something goes wrong think about why and try and correct it at that point. Not enough angle? Use more hand brake. Did the rear of the car "snap back" causing you to vear into the other direction? You either had to much countersteer or didn't keep the rear wheels spinning quick enough and got traction forcing the car from being sideways. Spin out? To much throttle or to little countersteer, or a little of both.

Anyways if you have anymore questions feel free to ask, as for now I feel to sleep since its very late here and my eyes hurt.
 
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That right there is some good advice; take it!

I kinda dissagree on the learning with the ebrake technique; i found feints a more steady way of initiation. But its all personal preference
 
just take some sleeping pills when drool is coming out you mouth and your heads nearly on the floor your drifting like a pro lol
 
I'm no drifter, I had a couple of 10k runs around Eiger on GTP. I think you're trying to run before you walk by jumping in powerful rwd cars and pulling the handbrake. Why not try a much lower powered rwd car or even a 4wd car to begin with and get used to balancing the car before moving onto trying to drift like a pro? On gtp, i used an evo and I recall the cappuccino RM was a good rwd to start in. Tiff Needel (uk tv presenter and ex race driver who loves a drift) learned to drift in a Morris minor. Does the g27 have an option to switch to 180 degree mode like the dfp? Might help also.
 
If he is spinning why does he want more power to the drive wheels?


This will not work, a corner may need a particular gear and running in 2nd will do nothing but limit the car on certain corners.

Do not concern yourself with gears, there are 2 issues with gears you need to be aware of, 1 avoid 1st at all costs, it kills drifts. 2 if you hear the engine getting "bogged down" (ie losing RPM) while sideways your in to high a gear and go down one, but this drop into 2nd "rule" is nonsense.

I'm going to outline the best method for you to get started, what im about to say is not the golden key to learning how to drift such a thing does not exist, there is no car no setting no teaching and no lessons that will just make it get it right away, keep that in mind.

1) Find ONE car you like and stick with it. The logic behind this is every car controls a lil differently, and if your going from car to car to car all your doing is making yourself relearn how each of the cars feel and behave, so find a single car you like the feel of, maybe give it a lil more power and suspension and just go from there.

2) Pick a simple track and stick with it. This is the same logic as before, if you run 1 track you will get used to the line you need to take and the speeds to take corners. By sticking with 1 car and 1 track you are left to learn 1 thing, how a car feels when sideways. *I recommend Tsukuba since its short, the corners are all similar but it offered a few challenging ones when you want to test yourself.)

3) Install an LSD. Alot of people say its not needed and I ran my FC rx7 without one fine, then I put it in and it made the car alot more predictable. Here's a quick lesson on LSDs for you. Most cars come with an open diff stock, the problem with this is when a tire (or in this case tires) lose traction the power from the engine wants to take the path of least resistance. so whatever tire has less grip most of the engine power will go to that tire making the power at each tire unbalanced and the car behave oddly. an LSD will lock the tires in certain situations and make the power at each drive wheel equal making the car more predictable.

4) Stick with handbrakes for an initiation technique until you gain more experience. I personally cant use the clutch technique since I lack a wheel with one, but I can faint and an issue with fainting is the tail kicking out is alot more "dramatic" then other methods due to the momentum of the swaying. the handbrake is VERY predictable in how it will effect the car and when it will cause a loss of traction..so give it a slight tug (or button press) and turn into the corner, at that point release and then its throttle and countersteer.

5) Practice. Drifting is about a fine balance in various things you do to the car to get it sideways, keep it sideways and get it through a corner safely, no amount of words, videos or teachings will replace you actually driving and trying to notice what is happening when things go wrong, if something goes wrong think about why and try and correct it at that point. Not enough angle? Use more hand brake. Did the rear of the car "snap back" causing you to vear into the other direction? You either had to much countersteer or didn't keep the rear wheels spinning quick enough and got traction forcing the car from being sideways. Spin out? To much throttle or to little countersteer, or a little of both.

Anyways if you have anymore questions feel free to ask, as for now I feel to sleep since its very late here and my eyes hurt.


Reason i said downshift is because you dont have a cluch with a controller so you cant kick the rear end out with It so the downshift represents the cluch kick
 
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