Drifting/Driving tool

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I've only been trying to drift for 4 days, but I think it is damn near impossible (for me) to do so with the DSAC (Controller). I've heard that the Logitech GT Force racing wheel is a good bet, but are there any other racing wheel's out there that are just as good (or better)? :indiff:
 
Before you get a wheel, try this:

I'm gonna assume you're using both analogue sticks. Anyways,

- first initiate a slide

- hold your steering at the equivalent of "half way". Meaning if you watched the replay with the steering shown, it'll be half way to full. Get what I mean, because this is important.

- now, once you're in the slide, maintain and change your drift angle with your throttle, not your steering. Well, not entirely just your throttle... let's say mainly. Why? Because your car is more responsive to steering inputs. ie. a little too much opposite steering and you're out, not enough and you spin. Even with the controllers what, 256 points of analogue, you've only got barely a quarter of a rotation of the stick to work with.... so......

- Okay, so the throttle. The car won't react as fast to changes in throttle that's why it's easier to maintain the slide with it. Alrite, so here's what you want to do. The car is already sliding and you've got your steering pretty much constant at half. Keep the throttle at whatever place that'll keep the car drifting. This is will NOT be full throttle... prolly around half depending on gear and power. If you sense the car starting to "unwind" itself, punch the gas and the car will rotate back in. Once that is done, back off the throttle to "half" again. If the car starts to spin (and you have to catch it early enough) immediately let off the throttle and full counter-steer.

- And that's basically it. You'll need to play with the steering here and there too, but focus mainly on throttle to maintain it, while keeping steering almost constant. It'll look better in replay too, if the steering isn't flying around.

- Hope it helps. Dual Shocking it can be done! Save some dough.:lol:
 
Also, just wanted to add. While you're in the driver's view, drifting will look deceptively shallow. If you get the urge to increase your drift angle, don't! As long as the tires are smoking (sim tires), you're good. It looks tame while you're doing it, but looks fine on the replays.
 
wow,that was pretty well said uM JAMMER,good job =D.I began drifting a few months back actually,I first learned how to by staying home from this cerimonal type thing for 9/11 ya know,last year..and I stayed home and just played GT3 for a pretty long time ^_^,just messin' around with my FC at Tokyo Route 246,and all of the sudden,on that long right corner,I finally got the hang of how to actually initiate the drift!in an automatic though....so later that night I began learning how to drive a manual,cause that's the way it SHOULD be done,but for the LONGEST,I was using an automatic to initiate my drifts,of course with the handbrake,till I figured out about the braking =D.well,anyways,I still drift with the Dualshock controller..I guess since I started GT3 with it,I'll finish it with it..sounds good to me,but the thing is..I don't think GT3 will ever get TOO old to keep playin' ya know?well,that is till GT4 comes out,hehe =D.

AE86Driver

P.S. by the way,I don't use both analogs,it's too confusing ????,so here's my controls -----

X - accelerate
square - brake
O - handbrake
L1 - rear view
L2 - reverse
R1 - Gear down
R2 - Gear up

kinda confusing some people say,but to me,it's comfortable ^_^
 
Using both analogs... now why didn't I think of that? Tapping the throttle button seemed a bit trivial. I'll practice with that for a while, then get back to you. Thanks alot.

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Azn Kirby
 
its pretty fun tryin to use both analogs @ the same time... but i never get the hang of it... :shame:
although one thing you should know
you can't do FF drifting with 2 analogs, you NEED the 2 buttons, cuz for FF drifting you use RFB(right foot braking), or, your feet are on the gas and the brake at the same time
 
Thanks AE86Driver

no prob, J-Spec

Originally posted by halfracedrift

you can't do FF drifting with 2 analogs, you NEED the 2 buttons, cuz for FF drifting you use RFB(right foot braking), or, your feet are on the gas and the brake at the same time
Yeah.... I kno...... Actually, you could configure your e-brake to the rearview button (R1?), assuming you don't need to upshift at the same time. I haven't actually tried this though, since I just realized this.
 
excuse me for sounding stupid for asking,but...isn't what you described Half,referred to as "The Left Foot Technique"?Heel and Toe?either one of them?I believe I used "The Left Foot Technique" before...ALOT too ^_^,but strange really...I only used it with Midship engined cars ???? :odd:

AE86Driver

no prob uM Jammer
 
he was just wondering if that was what you were talking about.

btw J - [ Spec ] you'll develop the feeling of the drift once you get the hang of it. sometimes, you do need to countersteer in order for the car to be stable during the drift, but what uM Jammer is talking about is the 4WD Drift. it's pretty easy, but if you wanna drift like Cudaman or anyone else, the driving wheel will make the countersteer more stable and cooler while you drift

personally, i use both the 2 analog sticks and the buttons. i just change the settings depending on my mood :D
 
Oh, yes. One more thing. I use CudaMan's FC setup but I can not get the 1st and 2nd gears to go as low as the F.A.Q. says. Whats up with that? I set everything else up to match exactly what is stated (even the Auto Level-24) and it still will not go down. :irked:
 
*looks up at Thio's signature and laughs* well..I'm glad I'm not that kinda person ^_^,first off,I really know that Initial D drifting is waaaay different from GT3 or real life (I've been in one of my friend's Saturns and he drifted around this pretty sharp corner and I almost pissed my pants 0_0!) I wouldn't want Takumi's car either cause just cause you got Takumi's car (uhh..somehow) doesn't mean you'll know how to control it as well as he does,I mean,that's like getting one of Keiichi Suchiya's cars and saying,"yeah!I can drift in your car,I see you do it all the time dude!" it ain't happenin'.Well,anyways,back onto topic...Half,thanks,now I feel kinda smart for knowin' that you was actually talkin' about the Left Foot Technique =D,hehe..the Heel and Toe part just came in cause I've heard about it,but not too sure how it works =P.well,anyways..guess I'll talk to you guys later ^_^

AE86Driver
 
Originally posted by Drift Addict
man...dual analog ey? i always just took advantage of the pressure sensitivity of the dual shock 2 controller...works fine with me

Same here. Thats why I could never drift good in GT 1 and 2, because I would always accelerate to much and spin out. In GT3 you just barely press down X and you can make nice drifts.
 
Ok, I have finally setteled down with a car to practice drifting
with, which is Nissan's S-13 (CudaMan's specs). I can initiate the
slide, and even hold the drift for the first .3 seconds of the curb
but either then I go into a spin or the tail of my car tucks back in.
I've tried pushing, holding steady, and releasing the throttle (I
use both analogs now) and nothing seems to help keep the drift
at a constant speed or angle/direction of the curb. I practice
relentlesslessly, but I cant help but feel that there is something
else I am missing, or something I'm not doing right. I know the
car can drift, because I've done it several times (some on
accident, some not, some I didnt know what the hell I was
doing). Is it my lack of experience, am I just doing it wrong or
what? FYI, I use the "Power Over" (of course) to initiate the slide. :banghead:
 
Get a wheel. :p I'm half-kidding there.

Here's some more advice, maybe repeating myself:

- a little means a lot. When you're counter steering all the way through, you might only need very little "stick push". It'll will feel like you barely pushing the steering stick at all, but it's enough, and if you watch the replay, it'll already be half to full.
This is where a wheel is advantageous.

- throttle modulation. You're already doing this, so that's good. Now it's just practice. When to more gas, when to constant, and when to let go.

There's probably nothing you're doing "wrong"... if you can pull them off by accident, then you can do it on purpose, lol. Just need more practice.

Good luck :)
 
Yes, throttle modulation is a royal pain in the b-hind. Ok, so now going back to my original statement. Besides Logitech GT Force, are there any other good racing wheels (FF) that have made recommendation lists?
 

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the one from logitech is a good one

although you can't shift when the wheel is turned 45 degrees left or right
 
this may help you; it surely helped me:

i usually listen to another song over the ones that come from the game and whenever i wanted to drift, i usually concentrate on the corner taking like half of my screen. usually, the engine sounds tend to anoy me when i try to drift.

i hope this helps :)
 
Originally posted by Thio
this may help you; it surely helped me:

i usually listen to another song over the ones that come from the game and whenever i wanted to drift, i usually concentrate on the corner taking like half of my screen. usually, the engine sounds tend to anoy me when i try to drift.

i hope this helps :)

:confused:

that just confused me,

but I always race with the music off, and being able to hear what's going on helps a lot with drifting,

I'm a fanatic about that in real life I usually drive with my window cracked or down when pushing it to hear the tires on the road...,

maybe I'm a freak
 
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