Drifting with a Wheel...

ZZII Master

ZZII Master

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I just got this Logitech Driving force GT wheel and its great for racing but the real reason I wanted it was to drift. I am slowly learning that it is completely ridiculous to try to drift with. So my question is... What are some pointers for this wheel and using it to drift?
 
ZZII Master
I just got this Logitech Driving force GT wheel and its great for racing but the real reason I wanted it was to drift. I am slowly learning that it is completely ridiculous to try to drift with. So my question is... What are some pointers for this wheel and using it to drift?
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Learning how to countersteer and figuring out when is too much or not enough in a drift, feathering the throttle and mainly practicing different techniques.

Variety is the spice of life, try feinting or E-Braking into a corner and see what results you get.
 
Stavingo
Learning how to countersteer and figuring out when is too much or not enough in a drift, feathering the throttle and mainly practicing different techniques.

Variety is the spice of life, try feinting or E-Braking into a corner and see what results you get.
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That is drifting in general, but I did forget to say that I do drift.....a lot. Do you have any pointers for the wheel?
 
ZZII Master
That is drifting in general, but I did forget to say that I do drift.....a lot. Do you have any pointers for the wheel?
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It's completely different between a controller and a wheel.

You need more patients and control with a wheel. You need to find the sweet spot on your wheel, along with throttle control, to maintain decent drifts. It takes some people a long while to learn, while it takes some only a short time. You'll either get it or not!

I've been at it for almost a year now and I'm STILL learning!

Remember: Throttle control: Don't always floor it, only when you feel you're straightening out. Steering: Don't full lock all the time, play with the wheel until you find the right amount of countersteer.

Besides that, use the search 👍 you'll find all kinds of useful info!
 
Hello ZZII MASTER! Let me tell you my opinion, as a very recent wheel drifter with the same wheel. You have to simply deny that you can drift and start with the basics again. That will save you the frustration of thinking that you can do it but the wheel is bad or cant perform right.

My way of doing it was simple.I bought a new FR car, noob friendly with low HP (Rx7 FC exactly). I kept it completely stock except oil change and CH tyres.
I went on Suzuka East (wide consecutive corners not hairpins). I started working on countersteer using only ONE gear,which has the better power output.
I drifted each corner seperately at first to learn the control. While you are at it try to remember the "rules of drifting" meaning weight transfer,throtle control and of course Countersteering.Use them instead of powering out the rear.
Be patient and very soon you ll feel the "click" where everything come to place. Then you ll see how much more satisfying is to drift with ANY wheel.

When i got a bit used to it i started tuning gradually starting from Drivetrain->Weight->Horse Power(50 hp at a time) ->Transmission & Suspension.
I left Transmission & Suspension last because they affect the car dramaticly and until you go it all down you may not understand what causes what in your drift.

The final step was,by advice of a friend of mine, to go drift a custom made Kart Track with narrower road and many corners and elevations. In that track, up to this day, im learning to do everything faster and more precise thus improving my overall control.

All the above are my way of doing it and NOT a begginers wheel drift guide! I just wanted to share my learning experience with anyone in case it helps and thats it. Allow me to share 2 videos of CJ aka Stoner which helped me A LOT. He is far more experienced so this will help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2oyQzkNBEM&list=UUjoSM-k1W6W97tLhJKuAfZQ&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TSlkowVB3U&list=UUjoSM-k1W6W97tLhJKuAfZQ&index=9

Keep trying and you ll be rewarded!
 
Do we really need to have a new thread for everyone who starts drifting on a wheel? Surely all the other threads have the answers...
 
I use to have a Logitech Driving Force Pro but couldn't drift with that wheel because of the countersteering is super slow so I decided to get a G27 took me 2-3 weeks before I actually got the hang of it. Cars, tune and wheel settings matter a lot, I learned drifting the hard way in GT5 with the wheel because I literally had to get my tuning right so it is easier to drift, my advice is get the S13 have only about 350hp (lower the hp the easier; when you think you have improved adjust your hp to 400hp then move to a much faster car). LSD = Limited Slip Differential plays a important role in your drifting with controller you don't need LSD because you can literally change the position of your wheel in less than a second but for wheel users its way different, I currently have Lock Diffs which is known as Wielded Diffs, some people like 2 way LSD. Here is the settings that I believe is close to real life Diffs

5/60/60 = 2 Way LSD = When your driving on a straight line your wheels are open diffs ( inner and outer wheels spin at different rate) but when your in mid drift it locks and act as a lock diffs.

60/60/60 = Lock/Wielded Diffs = Your back wheels spin rate is the same so you can easily upset the car to get it to drift. But when you want to go straight that's a different story requires you to have a certain amount of knowledge or skills to get it back straight without making a fool of yourself, I think I learned how to do it because I mostly come out of corners easily without tailfishing but who knows I might need to work on it more.

Transmission, plays a big role as well. I like to have longer gears that is because wheel users can't shift as fast and sometimes you mis-shift causing you to slowdown and disrupting the tandem. So your final should be around 350 I have it at 390 I think.

Suspension one of the important tune you have to get right, First of all too much camber is a overkill because it's super hard to control so mine has 2.2 Front and 1.2 Back, make your front stiff not too stiff but at medium rate and I like to have my back a little softer (dampers) because in certain tracks there's walls and ripple strips I usually like to wall ride that and I sometimes touch the ripple strips and if your suspension is way to stiff then you will immediately spin out so I like to make it a little softer so there is more play in the shocks.

Some people think the most realistic feedback settings for G27 is 4-6 but in my opinion go for 10 feels way more realistic but you do have to get use to it.

That is basically what I have learned so far I don't think I have included everything else as I can't remember all of em so I'll edit it later.
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I posted this a while back and here's some things you need to learn.
 
Im probably more worst than anybody on the earth using this wheel but with a controller im WAY better. I got the same wheel this christmas
 

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