Driving Aids

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So, don't know if this has been coverd but do you use driving aids?

How do you use them, when do you use them?

or like me do u only use them on cars you know would have them, like the E-type jag, back in the day there was no aids, it's a bitch to control, on the other hand the Enzo, to much power for first and second gear without TC, and to much power out of a corner and you're seeing the wall so maybe use ASC...

I know the enzo is based on PSP and there's no feathering the gas because it's ether on or off, i'm crap at making points but you see what i mean, i would never consider using any aids on older cars that where made before the aids existed...

I would like your views...
 
TCS is usually always on 0 (maybe change if its really powerful), ASM is always on 0. However, with ABS as you say, its model dependant :)
 
If I'm learning a car and it has too much power, I'll throw TCS to 1, but otherwise it's at 0 and stays there no matter what.

ASM is always at 0.

ABS, for some reason, is something I could never turn off in GT. I'm fine with it off in Forza, as I seem to be able to tell when I'm locking a lot easier than I can in GT. In GT, it might be the sound of the screeching tires, but I've never gotten the threshold down.

edit: By the way, I use a wheel.
 
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Since I am using wheel, the precision on a wheel is through the roof. NO AIDS needed. Only one I keep is ABS either 1 or 0. With controller, I would at least get a 1 for every aid.
 
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dominiclees
or like me do u only use them on cars you know would have them, like the E-type jag, back in the day there was no aids, it's a bitch to control
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I remember fitting the E-type in GT4 with a LSD to get it to handle better without TC, although you could also fit it with injection and chiptuning ( not very period or even real as an E-type has carburators and no engine management system.....).
Otherwise I always drove all the cars in GT4 without TC ( but mostly with LSD fitted ) although ABS was on setting 2 if i remember correctly.
In Prologue I mostly have TC, depending on which car, and ABS on 2 max, ASM and steering help always off and the settings on Pro.
Most cars in Prologue I can handle without TC with my DS3 controller, but some are just too much of a handful so I set TC at 2 max.
 
Learn the basics with them :cheers: , But as soon as you can, get rid of them 👍 You'll be glad in the end.. ;)
 
I feel ashamed to be a wheel user. I haven't accomplished a fast lap in my wheel. Even with Traction Control I still got spun out a lot of times! (In GT5p, GTR EVO, and Rfactor)

I was racing the 350z Amuse in GT5p earlier with a bunch of ace drivers, and I was 7 second behind the second last person in the finish line!
Edit: The driving aids are all off.


Need more practice!:rolleyes:
 
Just practice with the wheel, it feels ODD at first but once you get hang of it, youll get it.

Sometimes you have to fight the wheel, when it wants you to spin out, you have to hold it very steady in the direction you wanna go.
 
In Prologue ABS +1, the rest off.
If they get the wheel lock-up right in the final game I will also switch the ABS off.

I might change it sometimes so it fits to the series I'm driving, like TCS on LMPs etc. but I doubt it, since it makes you slower and it's not real driving when something helps you.
 
I agree, GT5 really needs more realistic wheel locks. Sometimes only one wheel locks depending on how much you press the brake and turn angles. After playin iRacing, that happens a lot when sometimes one wheel locks much sooner over the other.
 
Not only that, in Prologue the wheels lock-up too fast and the cars behave like on ice when it happens.
 
I sometimes need ASM because I'm a noob, but I'm working on turning it off. As for the rest, TCS 1 or 0, ABS 1, Pro physics, and no steering aid 👍.
 
I have ABS on 1 because its hard to control lockup with the DS3 controller.

But all the other aids are off because they feel too restrictive and take the control away from the driver/me. Also i can't drive in with auto gear change because you also don't have control of the car, mainly with down shifts.
 
I keep everything at 0, except for the ABS, I leave that at 1. If I could feel, when the wheels would lock up, then I could turn it off, but there's no feeling down there.
 
I think PD should look into how ABS works in real life. Or maybe all cars in GT games have all AIDS OFF, and always MANUAL shifts with NO ABS.

If you look at it, the AID system is PD made that works universal with all cars. SO ABS is not realistic because once you set the ABS to certain number, the computer calculates for you how much force is needed to not lock up the tires.. Same with TCS and what not, it calculates the GAS pedal for you to not to over spin the tires.. Same with AUTOMATIC transmissions. in real life AUTO transmissions do not work like in GT games, so AUTO is universal tool in GT games for computer to shift for you.

Seems all the AIDS are universal PD tools for all cars to make it easier for all players to enjoy the game.
 
Everything off, except ABS at 1. I think this is how most people here have it set. Tried ABS off before on the F40 for a bit of realism.

TCS just messes you up as you end up correcting at the same time that it kicks in and you almost end up spinning anyways.
 
GT5P offered a lot of aids.

ASM
TCS
ABS
and also
Active Steering.

I suggest if you really want to get good, NEVER use the Active steering... that's like holding your hand kinda stuff.

ASM should be off
ABS to be at 1 a most.
TCS should be at 1 at most, usually if you use high torque cars, otherwise put on 0.
 
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Ok so it seems that most are guna say no aids, but i'm no ashamed to use them on cars that woulod have them IRL, sometimes.

So lets expand this to upgrades to...

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I remember fitting the E-type in GT4 with a LSD to get it to handle better without TC, although you could also fit it with injection and chiptuning ( not very period or even real as an E-type has carburators and no engine management system.....).
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Not having a dig at you there.

How realistic do you like to keep your cars?
As well as the aids... 800hp RX-7 without TCS?
 
ABS is always on since im an old school guy who likes the pad and X= go. square= stop and TCS is on most of the time on gt4 and gt3 i had everything to the max but on GTHD and GT TT demo i had everything off apart from abs and TCS is on 8.
Oh and I have automatic gears too as i often go round a hairpin thinking the revs are a little low not looking at the gear im in, downshifting and finding myself in neutral.
 
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dominiclees
Not having a dig at you there.

How realistic do you like to keep your cars?
As well as the aids... 800hp RX-7 without TCS?
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Realistic is also debatable both in game as IRL, a lot of people upgrade real classic cars with better tires, modern gearboxes, steering racks, etc. which weren't available when those cars were new.
Some think this is blasphemie or lack of purity, others believe when it is subtle and reversible it might enhance the car's ability to drive in today's circumstances.
Anyway an 800hp RX-7 or any fully tuned car in GT4 ( even those Group C monsters with up to 1200hp ) were perfectly drivable without TC and with a controller when I had them fitted with a properly set up LSD.
Would like the option to fit my classic cars with Weber's or similar instead of injection upgrades and chiptuning although this might just be an insignificant detail to most, at least you have the choice to keep the cars stock or tune them in a way you seem fit.
The amount of realism or percieved realism you want is also one of personal preference, just like driving aids are to a degree but those are also dependant on skill and whether you drive with a wheel or a controller.
 
The TCS is always off, ABS 1 on newer cars and off on older and Suzuki Zervo hehe. Ferrari F2007 Has TCS and ABS on...other ways it goes around haha Sorry my English....
 
TCS 0
ASM 0
ABS 1
I use TCS just on lotus Elise tuned and Ford GT tuned... I can not to drive 'em with out driving aids...
 
All off. I did turn on the ASM once or twice though...when I drove the Z06 for the very first time in gt5p, for the rank A american muscle car championship race 1 - I remembered it very clearly because I absolutely did not want to turn it on...
 
It depens how well you can adjust LSD in game. Usually in games i just adjust LSD and not use TC on super powerfull racecars. Also it helps if you can do remap and adjust tourque on lower revs to avoid wheel spin. I prefer to also keep aids as they are in real life.(and i am negative :) )
 
dominiclees
How do you use them, when do you use them?

like me do u only use them on cars you know would have them, like the E-type jag, back in the day there was no aids
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I got to thinking about this the other day actually, when i saw an episode of top gear that featured the Nissan GTR. It got me thinking about a few other cars as well, cars that, as standard factory bought cars, do not allow you to turn off the traction control completely, or even slightly in some cases.

Ferraris, porsches, lambos,.. they all have a sport button or derivative for handling and traction options, but even then, ABS is always always on! Would be very silly to turn it off in a road car.

I think every car you buy in GT should come as though from the factory. TC, ASM, ABS the lot. And if you want to turn it into a track racer, then you buy individual parts like always. eg: New brakes, with ABS strength dial and bias lever. Suspension, with stability management option and all relative adjustable parameters. Drivechain parts, featuring additional traction controller.

Its only my opinion but it think it'd be way more realistic.

Anyway, to answer your original question, I always drive with all aids set to off. Except ABS which is on one. Oh and physics on pro, with wheel set to simulation. I enjoy the challenge, especially in cars like the F40. Man she's a beast :)
 
When I started pro physics I decided not to turn aids on ...it was hell getting used to it ,but when everything clicked it felt right (except like some of the guys round here cars like the f40,gt etc needed taming a bit until you get up to speed). Peoples choice in how they manage there aids settings is up to the individual .
I have seen other posters on the forums saying it's just not right to turn on aids ,but if someone feels the car drives better for them, keep up in a race and enjoy having them in well I say whats the problem.:sly:
 

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