Driving Force GT and some help!

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igniz248f1
Hi

This is my first post and I wanted to start of on the driving force gt which i just got a hold of yesterday. I have never driven a car on an actual racetrack (hope to do that someday), but i do a lot of Karting...and that is what this wheel took me back to when I started using it last night. The FFB was set at 6, power steering off, simulation.

Started of on the High speed ring with the NSX, TC off and ASM off, Professional
and this was a mistake...........BIG MISTAKE!!!

The only place I could hold the car was on the straights and that was about it. The more i tried..the more I spun out. I started thinking this wheel is "ridiculous". But then I figured I was being ridiculous.

I realized I was so used to the DS3, that I was using the pedals like an on/off switch. So I did what I do when i go karting and started driving the NSX like a "car"...and that's when the wheel came alive...understeer/oversteer, the back sliding..everything this wheel was feeding into my hands. The same awesome sensation I get from go karting. FFB at 6 was actually very and i mean "very strong"...so putting it at 10 is something I am holding off for now. Oh yeah that GT logo is superb and the real time adjustment is just plain brilliant. The wheel is just spectacular in build and aesthetics. The shifter is no fun as it reminds me of a mouse click but the buttons behind the wheel (aka paddles) give me that race car feel.

Now for the problem. My DFGT times are slower than the DS3 times on the same track. Now i know that i was using the pedals like a switch and not using the wheel itself properly, but is there any other area i need to work on?
There is just no way GT5P was to be played on a DS3 and i know i can go much faster, but do the settings come more into play when using the wheel?

Also, the online top ranked times on the circuits. Is there anyway to know if the record holder is using a wheel or a six axis.

Glad to be on GTplanet
igniz248f1
 
Well I got my DFGT recently too (a week or two ago) and the thing is that it takes some time to be as confortable as you were with the controller, because you know what you have to be doing at some given time but getting that knowl3edge from your brain on to your hands and the steering wheel takes some getting used to.

About how to know if someone is using a wheel I think there is a way to know but I personally don't know how.
 
GTP_chemicaL
All the top times use a steering wheel.
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Do you mean professional physics? Because on standard I've set a couple of #1 times on arcade time trials using sixaxis.

All the best,
Synwraith
 
I think he means pro.

There are instances where the controller will be quicker, simply because of the immediate left-right steering action when you flick the stick. Overall, I think the wheel is going to be faster once you get used to it-it allows smoother inputs all around, this usually results in faster times.

I think advantage of the wheel greatly increases as horsepower goes up and/or traction goes down.
 
Yes...on professional physics. I have tried the wheel on the online world event in a BMW 1 series concept, last night. Two races. The first one was just plain carnage..i was rammed and run off 3 times in 3 laps and cars were spending more time spinning. The second race allowed me really feel the wheel in an actual race. i was actually able to catch up to an NSX and and finished 3. The wheel definitely gives back a lot of information.

Oh and sorry to another 1 series concept driver. i totally understeered and put him the wall...sorry

Should I try tweaking with my setup to see if i can squeeze more performance? I don't think the "stock" settings can go beyond a certain point...
 
Maziar
Do you mean professional physics? Because on standard I've set a couple of #1 times on arcade time trials using sixaxis.

All the best,
Synwraith
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I have over 100 top 5 leaderboard positions on both standard & Pro physics and I don't use a steering wheel!

However I can see the advantage of using a wheel especially RWD cars on Pro physics because the pad is useless and I would love an xbox 360 type controller for the PS3.
 
I've had my DF GT about five weeks now. First thing is my initial lap times were three to five seconds slower. Practice is the key. I also had issues with changing from Chase view to relearning to use the other views. My preference is Cockpit view but I still find it a little too restricting for getting the best lines in and out of corners but it is definitely the most fun.
One thing I have noticed which I am attempting to correct is a tendency for me to oversteer through the corners causing the tyres to squeal. That can only mean less traction and slower speed out of the corner. The ability to apply all control inputs as gradual portions is what will ultimately lead to faster times.
The force feedback was way stronger than I expected when I first used it and frightened the living daylights out of me. I knocked it back to 3 initially but recently moved it back to 6 for the feel of it. If you want a real experience try running a Lotus full belt at Daytona with FF set at 6 or higher. Worth the experience at least once. :nervous:
I don't believe there are any adjustments for the DF GT apart from Power Steering, Force Feedback and button assignments. In Mode option (Amateur, ro, Sim) the DF GT wheel image is disabled or grayed out on my PS3. This would indicate to me that this setting is not applicable. I have asked everywhere including Logitech support but no-one can give me even one piece of reliable info on how to get the best result from using the wheel other than practice, practice, practice.
I love the wheel for the added fun and challenge it gives me. My only gripe is the bloody horn button doesn't work! I'd love to beep some of the rammers and blockers just to see the reaction. 💡
 
OzOldTimer
If you want a real experience try running a Lotus full belt at Daytona with FF set at 6 or higher. Worth the experience at least once. :nervous:
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F2007 at Daytone FFB set to 10, I will surely never do that again:scared:.
 
This wheel just feels better and better. I was on high speed ring..i never posted a time trial lap time. Started of with a 1800 ranking. I was no TC in a 430. just kept feeding the power in the corners and then accerlerating hard out...10 minutes later and am on in the 160s. Pretty sure i can go faster than that. This wheel just takes this game to another level.

I also got my hands on the F1 CE game and with the FFB and the wheel, the game just comes alive. The wheel is also handy in the world tournament event where people just blatantly ram you "repeatedly". I've had it with that event.....i'll stick with the expert events where this wheel is put to better use.
 
@ OzOldTimer

I tried the Nissan GTR - 07 on daytona with FFB 7 and went like 10 laps. That was just awesome. Previously with the controller...that race was dull. But even 10 laps it was just awesome. I am not bumping the FFB up just yet.

I have not gotten the F2007. But am having fun with the F1 CE game too much.
 
Question , when using F2007 and the wheel does the degree of steering change ? cause F1 cars don't use 900 degrees like normal cars
 
I really love F1. My all time favorite sport. Don't get me wrong...I think the F2007 in GT5 will be amazing. But I like F1 CE in that aspect because of all the tracks and the proper season being available. I'll unlock the F2007 eventually...but for GT5...am busy unlocking everything else so i can have em for when the full GT5 graces us with it's presence
 
@ OzOldTimer

It's strange that the pro/sim option is disabled for you in the steering wheel settings (if tht is what you meant). The option is available to me and I chose the sim setting..👍
 
It's strange that the pro/sim option is disabled for you in the steering wheel settings (if tht is what you meant). The option is available to me and I chose the sim setting..
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I can change the setting. The image of the wheel is disabled or grayed out for that option though. I confess I have only tried the Sim setting once when I first got the wheel and so had little experience. Would you say that there is any difference between the settings?
 
Hey I don't know about you guys, but I've been having some trouble using the DFGT and the F2007. My settings are Simulation, FFB at 7 or 8, power steering on. When I hit about 170-180 in a straight line with the F2007, my wheel will move side to side, and it's almost uncontrollable. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how do you compensate for it?
 
igniz248f1
have not unlocked F2007....sorry...
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You can still experience it in let's say an NSX, go to daytona and in the straight let go of the wheel, it'll start to go from side to side and I think that has to do with how hard it is to maintain a car straight at very high speeds, dunno if it's wrong or not but I get it too.
 
Definitely...even while keeping the car on the track it still manages to vibrate pretty hard so you have to hold on to the wheel for dear life. I imagine it will be worse on the F2007.
 
Yup doing to laps at Daytona with FFB set to 10 in the F2007 is basically hell for your arms.
 
i am upto 800,000 credits, but i am busy unlocking all the cars...except for the Mini (not bothering). Few more online wins and i'll probably take out the F2007..first place i will take it though is suzuka....
 
Can any of you guys please give me some tips on controlling traction loss and counter spin outs with the DFGT? So far my only solution is throttle modulation to keep traction and perfecting the racing lines. Although I can get this down pat on free laps, during online races once I get punted - it's over. I've been practicing religiously but I still couldn't match the counter-steer of an analog stick. I'd appreciate some advice. Thanks guys!
 
Well I drive with the TC off and have surpassed the times I set with the DS3. I try to be as carefull with the power and try not to stamp on the gas pedal too often. I only use the throttle when i know i can floor it without spinning out and i know i won't have to break in between...aka until i have a really clean exit. Also, carrying as much speed into the entry to a corner is a good thing.

Anyone done a 1:14 on Eiger Norwood? I hit a 1:17.1 with TC off and ASM off in a 350Z Fairlady '07. No matter how hard I try i can never seem to do anything more. Any pointers will be a BIG help.

OH..manual transmission
 
igniz248f1
Well I drive with the TC off and have surpassed the times I set with the DS3. I try to be as carefull with the power and try not to stamp on the gas pedal too often. I only use the throttle when i know i can floor it without spinning out and i know i won't have to break in between...aka until i have a really clean exit. Also, carrying as much speed into the entry to a corner is a good thing.

Anyone done a 1:14 on Eiger Norwood? I hit a 1:17.1 with TC off and ASM off in a 350Z Fairlady '07. No matter how hard I try i can never seem to do anything more. Any pointers will be a BIG help.

OH..manual transmission
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When driving the F2007 should I be using some form of traction control. Because as apposed to 0ff-5 it gives off-10. And Im assuming the real drivers use some kind of high tech traction control when they drive because if they didnt it would be putting Ferrari's high level technology to waste. So I'm wondering should I be using like 1 or 2 on the traction control because my f2007 is getting no grip out of the turns.
 
You'll be faster without TCS than with, if you do it right.

In general, don't go full throttle unless the car is pointed straight, especially in the low speed turns. High speed corners can support more throttle because the insane downforce provided by the formula car will keep the rear end from sliding out.

As always, practice will help you find where the limits are, where you can push them and where you can't.
 
Philipriv
When driving the F2007 should I be using some form of traction control. Because as apposed to 0ff-5 it gives off-10. And Im assuming the real drivers use some kind of high tech traction control when they drive because if they didnt it would be putting Ferrari's high level technology to waste. So I'm wondering should I be using like 1 or 2 on the traction control because my f2007 is getting no grip out of the turns.
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Actually in the new season of Formula 1 the FIA removed the use of traction control. And if you can get proper throttle control you'll be faster than with TCS.
 
igniz248f1
Any help on my Eiger Norwood woes??
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Main advice is not to try to overdrive the corners, especially in the switchbacks (turns 1-4). If you go in too hot, you won't be able to accelerate out of the corners properly, since a large portion of your traction budget will be spent on lateral grip rather than forward thrust.

Slow in, fast out is the rule here.

As with all things, it's possible to overdo it, so coming to a dead stop will kill you, but if you err on the side of hitting the apex too slow, you'll end up with a faster overall time.

The fast right hander after the tunnel is the exception, where you'll want to carry as much speed as you possibly can.
 

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