Driving Force GT or T500RS

[vekku]

Hey guys,

I'm totally new to racing on Grand Turismo.
I just bought a playseat, now it comes to the steering wheel,
what do you guys suggest?
I'm thinking about the Driving force GT or the Thrustmaster T500RS.
Is there a very big noticable difference between these wheels?
Probably, some of you guys have experience with both wheels.

Kind Regards,
vekku

 

[CBH]

Did you try here Sim Racing Hardware

 

[Mini Stiggy]

Gran Turismo.

The T500 is no doubt the better wheel. It all comes down to how much money your willing to spend.

Are you going to be a casual player playing just to have fun? If so I'd probably suggest the DFGT. But, if you can easily afford to buy the T500, go for it.

Are you planing on racing competitively online or in leagues? If so I'd go for the T500.

Hope it helped:tup:

 

[Pichon617]

Hey guys,

I'm totally new to racing on Grand Turismo.
I just bought a playseat, now it comes to the steering wheel,
what do you guys suggest?
I'm thinking about the Driving force GT or the Thrustmaster T500RS.
Is there a very big noticable difference between these wheels?
Probably, some of you guys have experience with both wheels.

Kind Regards,
vekku

GT27 best wheel for $$$

 

[LVracerGT]

I used the DFGT for 2 years, then upgraded to the G27. I had the chance to finally use the Thrustmaster at the GT Academy semi-finals. I was less than impressed. The wheel rim feels too slim, awkward in the hands. The static paddle shifters are infinitely annoying and too far away from the wheel. The FFB was definitely stronger, but I didn't think it was more accurate. The brake pedal is also too soft.

I would highly recommend the G27. It's a hefty step up from the DFGT for a little more money, but not insanely expensive like the Thrustmaster. It also comes with the h-pattern shifter right away so you're not limited to the paddles unless you pay more for the h-pattern on the T500.

Side note, all the GT Academy guys I know that forked over for the T500 to practice for semi-finals returned theirs after they got back, either because they didn't like it or in one case, the upshift paddle quit working.

 

[Imari]

If you haven't had a wheel before, DFGT or G27, whichever you can afford. Don't go straight for the T500.

 

[roadpuke]

Hey guys,

I'm totally new to racing on Grand Turismo.
I just bought a playseat, now it comes to the steering wheel,
what do you guys suggest?
I'm thinking about the Driving force GT or the Thrustmaster T500RS.
Is there a very big noticable difference between these wheels?
Probably, some of you guys have experience with both wheels.

Kind Regards,
vekku

Another option is a Fanatec wheel, I have been using the GT2 for a couple of years now with absolutely no issues and I know you can get one on ebay at a reasonable price. As mentioned the G27 is also a great wheel I used mine for several years (its my back up now just in case) and never had any problems. Pedals make a big difference which is why I swicthed to Fanatec so I could use the club sport pedals, these pedals really perform and the adjustments let you dial in your own style. No matter which wheel you decide on you will experience a transistion period then you will never go back.

 

[StirlingMoose]

I've not tried the T500RS but I have had a DFGT and G25 (similar to the G27). The DFGT is a good value starter wheel but you may find you'll want to upgrade fairly soon if you are a serious player. Having the buttons and RA dial on the wheel is an advantage, or will be when the RA menu is implemented in GT6. The shifters on the wheel are buttons rather than proper paddles and are a bit awkward to use at large steering angles, although it's possible to add aftermarket paddles. Also changing the lock-to-lock rotation angle doesn't seem to work as it does on the G27. The pedals, particularly the brake, are not very good and you don't get a clutch and H-shifter. If you have the funds, and I suppose if you are considering the T500RS you must have, the G27 is a better choice than the DFGT.

 

[LJ12]

I would recommend the Logitech G27. Had one for almost for years now, and I've never had any troble with it! Love the wheel, and won't replace it until PS4 compatible wheels comes out!
In other words: G27 and the PLAYSEAT is an excellent combination!

 

[MSTER232]

T500 is easily the better wheel with budgets put aside. It turns more and has stronger FFB. If you combine with the shifter then it's a good experience. However less games support the T500 on the PS3. Both wheels will work on PC sims.

 

[Pizzle13]

well the t500 is the better wheel but i never actually used it
but i had the DFGT and it was ok but then i got me a used G25 for only 70 Euros and it was in good condition and works perfectly and its better than the dfgt
then i gave my DFGT to one of my friiends that was driving with a really cheap noname wheel
i usually dont recommend it to buy stuff used when it comes to stuff like wheels but i couldnt pass it up at that price.
and you cant get a g25 new here anyways only the g27 and i didnt really like that one, even tho its the newer model and is quieter.

the biggest flaws i had with my DFGT:
No Real Shifter Paddles
No Way To Hardware Lock Degrees
Mediocre Pedalset

these where my major gripes with it
and the G25 fixed all those problems even tho i had to give up on the buttons on the wheel compared to the DFGT

Having the buttons and RA dial on the wheel is an advantage, or will be when the RA menu is implemented in GT6.

actually i tested the DFGT on GT6 and the RA Function was working fine altho there is no settings to set it for "other" wheels

 

[StirlingMoose]

actually i tested the DFGT on GT6 and the RA Function was working fine altho there is no settings to set it for "other" wheels

I think it was fixed in one of updates. I've not tried it on the G25 yet but in GT5 you could map one of the buttons to bring up the RA menu and use the L/R and up/down buttons to select and and change the parameters. I'm hoping this is or will be the case in GT6.

 

[mykem]

Before making the switch to the T500RS, I ran the G25 for over 3 straight years. There's no question for me that the belt driven T500RS is the better wheel. Here's what I wrote in a review:

The FFB on the T500RS is very strong. And because it's belt driven it possesses smoothness that a gear driven wheels like the G25 can't quite provide. And the belt also provides a more uniform power throughout the steering angles- meaning you get the same resistance throughout the T500RS' 1080 degree rotation (although in most driving sims or game, 900 is the maximum rotation angle). The good thing about strong motor and power supply (the voltage output for the T500RS power brick is 6.67V compared to 1.75V from wheels like the G25 or Fanatec GT3RS) is that even if you don't normally run high FFB, in the event where the motor is beng driven hard- eg. endurance races- it's less likely to clip or distort. There's also a fan mounted on top of the wheel enclosure to help with ventilation and keeping the motor cooled.

The only downside is the price. Also the fact that if you prefer stick shifting, you need to invest in the TH8RS shifter (which I did and I can vouch to be a good shifter).

 

[MatskiMonk]

I bought the Thrustmaster a few weeks ago, I haven't had a wheel since GT2 on the original playstation. It's fantastic. If you can afford it I'd say it's the one to go for. The paddles are fine for shifting, really they are only a problem if you are used to a different wheel. The pedals are good and solid, with the brake pedal offering much more resistance than the throttle pedal, which again offers a little more than the clutch. The pedals are also reversible - meaning you can have the 'hinged' at the floor, or at the top. I only use it on FFB level 4 (out of 10), and once you get used to the feel of it you'll probably want to crank that up a little.

Most of all it feels solid and 'proper', rather than just feeling like a 'toy', or just a controller.

It's not perfect though. The buttons on the wheel are a little too far inboard. It's a 12" rim I believe, and to make use of the buttons on the wheel during a race (for RA or ghost control etc) means sliding your palm off the wheel rim, for me they could do with being about 1" closer to the rim itself.

If you are not used to a wheel at all, you may try it and think WTF! but it's worth persevering with. I would have stopped playing GT6 by now if it weren't for the wheel, it is like a whole new experience... like GT was 15 years ago!

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I had the DFGT for a year for playing GT5 then upgraded to a T500RS and TH8RS shifter. In my experience the DFGT is an excellent wheel with OK pedals and you might be completely happy with it. Some of the fastest players of GT5 used the DFGT and the friend I sold my DFGT to is much faster than me on my T500. So, it won't make you a faster driver, but it is a more realistic driving / racing experience. I don't find the static paddles a problem, but for the fastest cars I have the F1 rim - but hardly use it. The DFGT paddles / shift buttons are often criticised, but I never had a problem and found they were always at my fingertips.

I thoroughly enjoy using myT500RS and strongly recommend both wheels - the choice comes down to budget.

 

[BlacqueJacques]

Simple analysis - If you have the money and are serious (playing racing games alot) get the Thrustmaster; or save some money and get a G27 (I have a G25)

 

[ParkerMO125]

Simple analysis - If you have the money and are serious (playing racing games alot) get the Thrustmster; or save some money and get a G27 (I have a G25)

Or save even more money and get the dfgt but of course, Jacques has an inch more than I do lol

Just my two cents, which isn't much because I've only ever had the dfgt, which is going on 3 years strong no problems, every other day to everyday use.

 

[DaveS1138]

I upgraded from the DFGT to the T500RS a couple of years ago and could never go back. The DFGT feels too much like a plastic toy in comparison. Although obviously the T500RS is vastly more expensive so you get what you pay for.

One other consideration. The T500RS will work with the PS4. No other wheel is confirmed to. Maybe something worth considering given the way 360 owners were left out in the cold on the XBox one.

 

[Davide 16]

I can talk to you only about the Driving Force GT. I've bought my one 2 months before the exit of GT5 and I'm still fully satisfied about it. I've never had any kind of problem except while using it with Netkar Pro, so with the pc. It's happened 5, maybe 10 times that it is switched off automatically, but then, when I have reconnected it to the pc it started working again as usual. I don't know if it will work on PS4 but I think that it's the right choice for you because it's not too much expensive, it's a really hard to die as peripheral and it has the red wheel for on-track regulations. 👍

Hope you will have a lot of fun with the playseat and the wheel

 

[HaylRayzor]

I've had 2 DFGT wheels and both failed.

I now have a G27. I do miss the buttons on the DFGT but the G27 buttons are mapable.

 

[Squanto]

I really enjoy my DFGT + playseat ... for 3 years now ...

 

[Glenalz81]

I used the DFGT for 2 years, then upgraded to the G27. I had the chance to finally use the Thrustmaster at the GT Academy semi-finals. I was less than impressed. The wheel rim feels too slim, awkward in the hands. The static paddle shifters are infinitely annoying and too far away from the wheel. The FFB was definitely stronger, but I didn't think it was more accurate. The brake pedal is also too soft.

I would highly recommend the G27. It's a hefty step up from the DFGT for a little more money, but not insanely expensive like the Thrustmaster. It also comes with the h-pattern shifter right away so you're not limited to the paddles unless you pay more for the h-pattern on the T500.

Side note, all the GT Academy guys I know that forked over for the T500 to practice for semi-finals returned theirs after they got back, either because they didn't like it or in one case, the upshift paddle quit working.

couldn't agree with you more LV!

 

[Johnnypenso]

I used the DFGT for 3 years and it was a good basic wheel. It's kind of loud, makes a whining noise when you turn. Paddle shifters are just small, finger sized buttons but you get used to it, and they are on the wheel, so they turn as you turn. The feel of the pedals is very, very light. I ended up modifying my brake pedal with a sponge ball and bungee cord to get more feel. Eventually I ended up with a problem with the brake pedal coming on slightly and intermittantly, and ended up taking it apart and making a "field repair"

All in all I was quite happy with it for $99 and ended up upgrading to a G27 which is a much better wheel in every way.

 

[lyzheng]

I say DFGT, because it is more reliable than the T500RS. The only great thing about the T500RS is the force feed back other than that, when using both wheels for GT6 the feeling of the road feels exactly the same. You don't really have the feeling of being fully connected to the road. You only start to notice the difference when turning. On dirt and snow the T500RS is much more powerful than the DFGT.