Driving Force GT Questions

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I'm fairly new to GT5 and I just got a Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheel and pedals for Christmas. Since I'm using a PS3 (not a PC), what is the best (and cheapest) way to mount it? Can it be used without mounting? Do the pedals connect to the wheel? Any other important info I should know (since I'm a beginner)?
 
try this setup buddy, got the desk at Ikea for $50, works very awesomely! so yea total cost $50-$100 depending on what kind of computer desk you buy.


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^Thanks for the advice. However, I won't be using a PC or computer desk......I'm using a PS3 with a 50 inch tv and I usually play sitting back about 8-9 feet. Is there anything "simpler" that might work for playing in my family room besides a full blown computer desk?
 
I had a side table at the right height and attached it to it very easily. The pedals connect to the wheel and the wheel needs a USB cord to the PS3 so that may limit how far away you'll be able to sit. I pushed the pedals up against a heavy coffee table so they don't move around at all. I've found that the only drawback to using a pretty light side table with the wheel is when I'm trying to drift, I can sometimes move the table quite a bit...lol.

As for seating, I'm on my couch with a firm pillow for lumbar support and it doesn't let me slouch back into the couch, putting me into a pretty good seating position. ;-)
 
Okay.....I just tried it and I'm horrendous!! Even on the straights, my car continually wants to wag left and right. Tips?
 
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Okay.....I just tried it and I'm horrendous!! Even on the straights, my car continually wants to wag left and right. Tips?
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lol, There IS a learning curve, I just got mine yesterday and I'm finally able to win races with it... I'm still having issues with some of my high powered cars and spinning out on occasion (it's not as easy to correct as it was with the controller). I put my settings to professional and force feedback around 6 now, I tried lower and higher and this just worked best. I went with professional setting only because I didn't want to have to learn how to drive with it more than once...lol.

Seriously though, once you get used to it, it's pretty amazing being able to control the throttle as well as you can along with turning the wheel nice and smoothly. I went back and got all silver and some golds on my license tests when I was learning to use the wheel, perhaps this would help you. Good luck, don't give up on it, it's a nice change to the game when you've used a controller for a long time, in my case since GT1 came out...haha.
 
Oh, and the biggest difference I've seen was in the Nascar Special races... Jeff Gordon school or whatever it's called... the wheel made them sooooooooooooo much easier. The driving line ones were just a pain in the butt for me with the controller but when I went to the wheel it's much easier to control the car and keep totally steady to get gold.

As far as drifting with it, I kinda gave up for now and I'll go back later when I'm more comfortable with the wheel...lol.
 
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Okay.....I just tried it and I'm horrendous!! Even on the straights, my car continually wants to wag left and right. Tips?
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I used mine for the first time today and im having the same problems. Wat advice can you guys give use new wheel users?

I didnt think it would be this tough first time of asking. Is it just down to practice?
 
There is definately a learning curve. On the controller you can take your thumb off the stick and flick it around without resistance. With the wheel, it is important to keep a good grip on the wheel at all times. Especially in tight turns, you will need to practice hand positioning while steering to keep the wheel in control. Also, you have to remember that the force feedback is there to be resisted. I know when I first started I kinda let the wheel turn my hands, because I wasn't use to the resistance. You have to fight the feedback and try and feel the weight-shift of the car. It takes practice. Good luck.

PS: Once you get a hang of driving, give drifting a shot to really learn how to control the car in whatever way you want.
 
It's down to practice. I don't have a DFGT but I did play GT4 through several times with a DFP. I always had slight bit of left/right movement down straights, simply because you don't have the ability to tap a controller button to straighten out precisely. It's all down to practice and after awhile that waggling (is that a word) will almost disappear.
 
LOL....thanks for the words of encouragement. For now, I'm just practicing in Arcade Mode until I'm a little better. I set the feedback to "1" for now (as someone suggested earlier), but I want to work my way back up to "5". Did anyone switch their DFGT from 900 degrees to 270? If so, do most people do that?
 
I personally did not gradually increase FFB, but I imagine it is effective way to learn. Just make sure you eventually get to around 5 for a more realistic experience.

I don't think that it is possible to change to 270 degrees on the DFGT. Most people wouln't since it gives you more prescise control and is more like driving a real (street) car. 270 degrees in real life is used more often in rally and formula one to allow for quicker steering necessary in those types of races. I think some of the race cars might automatically swith to a 270 degree angle. I know the go karts do, and they do not require a setting change.
 
The thing is, with the DFGT, in other games (at least on Shift), if you set the rotation to 360º or 270º etc., there are mechanical stops which engage in your DFGT and you CAN'T turn past the rotation amount set.

But GT5 has go-karts and F1 cars set to lower rotation, but the wheel will still move the full 900º travel, so after the 270º or 360º or whatever PD has set those cars' rotations to, you keep turning the wheel and nothing more happens...

It's a small but important detail. To be honest, yes, most street cars are set to 900º or thereabouts, but once you have modded your street car to be a racer, most tuners will also shorten the ratio on the steering rack for a more 'racer' rotation amount.

I wish this would be implemented in GT5. Lower wheel rotation helps a lot in doing quick opposite lock flicks to catch oversteer, but with a full 900º wheel, it takes a lot more movement and speed compared to a 360º setting, IMO. It just seems like one more area of customization and tuning that has been left out of the 'Ultimate Driving Simulator'... Heck, I can't even change my tire pressures or individual gear ratios, let alone tune the steering rack!
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And, to the OP... if you think GT5 is bad driving down a straight, trust me, compared to Shift, it's a piece of cake! All it takes is light force on the wheel to hold it steady, with just a few cars (most hardly wobble at all).

In Shift, you had to hang on for grim death on the straights in Pro Mode, as the FFB was wildly exaggerated at the center of the wheel's travel. Made driving a good straight line almost impossible in many cars. I honestly thought something was wrong with my DFGT, but when I got GT5, I realized no, nothing wrong with the wheel... just something wrong with the game!:sly:
 
^Out of curiosity, why does it wag left and right in GT5 (or in Shift for that matter) at all? I mean.....I understand the resistance on turns......but why the straight line wobble? My REAL car doesn't tug left/right when I'm driving down the highway in a straight line.
 

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