- 53
- Ängelholm, Sweden
- yoo77
i have a nice sturdy wooden table to attach it too
i think its should be good, it would be nice to have a play seat though!
Driving force gt vs G27 for GT6?
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i have a nice sturdy wooden table to attach it too
i think its should be good, it would be nice to have a play seat though!
- 53
- Ängelholm, Sweden
- yoo77
i dont know if its the best choice for entry level racer? and the fanatec wheels can only be ordered through their own website right? if so can they even ship to sweden?
- 12,018
- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
It shouldn't really cost any more than a G27, it's not even that different than a G27 other than being slightly larger and smoother feeling. I don't see why it wouldn't be a great choice for an entry level racer (if he's already prepared to spend G27 money). They are headquartered in Europe I believe so I can't imagine why they wouldn't ship to Sweden.
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- GTP_Midnite / andymidnite
i have a nice sturdy wooden table to attach it too
If it's at a comfortable height and distance to your seat then I guess that's workable. The advantage of the thing that I'm using is that it telescopes and bends, as well as folding down for easy stowage. Plus it has never moved on me under heavy steering inputs. Just food for thought.
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- Cloncurry
- Gunsnbubbles
- 44
- Arizona
- AirCav1970
If you can afford the G-27 get it,it's a good quality set up and you won't regret it,one of my local racin' buds has one and I love it. I use a DFGT and have for the past 3 years,never a problem with it so if you have never used a wheel or you don't want to sink that much cash into one I'd just go for a DFGT.
- 53
- Ängelholm, Sweden
- yoo77
the problem isnt the amount off money i can spend its more about how i want to spend it. Im very intrested in buying a new surround system aswell but if i get a wheel like the g27 it is a bit to much for my wallet
but if a higher quality wheel is worth that cash im happy to put the money on the table!
- 36
- India
- toknowjoyman
I have a g27, but i think that its metal wheel reduces the force feedback and feels like some of the subtle vibrations are lost. i think the dfgt, being plastic, would give better subtle responses. I actually like the controller vibrations more than g27
- 385
- Indiana
I picked up a G27 last year and love it. The clutch and separate gear shift is what really drew me to the G27. It's very well built and I've never had any problems with reliability. In anticipation of GT6 I rebuilt my gaming rig. Originally, I had the shifter and wheel attached to a home made wooden table that straddled my gaming chair. Now however, I got the passenger seat (because its manual) from a Saab 93 and welded up an all metal rig. It's much more comfortable than my original set up.
Anyway, the G27 is great and I recommend it. Regardless, you'll enjoy the racing experience much more with any force feedback wheel.
Anyway, the G27 is great and I recommend it. Regardless, you'll enjoy the racing experience much more with any force feedback wheel.
- 760
- Boston, MA USA
- Acedition333
Is the G27 hard to set up with your PS3? I too was thinking of getting a wheel. Its about 265usd. But I'm looking for a decent wheel stand to complete the package.
- 385
- Indiana
From what I remember its very easy. The G27 connects to the PS3 by a USB cable. The pedals, shifter and power cord all plug into the underside of the steering wheel. I think there was some kind of loading screen the first time I used the wheel with GT5. But, its very simple stuff really.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
The answer to your question OP depends on your personality. It's no secret that you get what you pay for when it comes to just about everything. I upgraded from DFGT to G27 a year ago and I did have the issue Brandon refers to above with the wheel going off centre but I got a free replacement. The G27 is a better wheel than the DFGT in every aspect. Heavier, better materials, much quieter, much smoother, better pedals with stiffer action out of the box and upgradable, 6 speed gearbox with reverse etc. etc. The Fanatec @BrandonW77 is another step above that. Sometimes it's small things that make a difference. For example, the DFGT has a signature whining noise when you turn the wheel. It's annoying for some people and it does affect your immersion if you notice it. The stock pedal feel is light, and again, it affects the immersion level because they feel cheap and plasticky. I modded it with a sponge ball and some bungee cords but of course my friends laughed at it because it was so half a$$sed
I'd say if you just want to get used to a wheel and you aren't that into the game the DFGT is a good wheel and you'll really enjoy it. If you are more serious the DFGT is still a good choice but you'll get much more enjoyment out of the G27 or the Fanatec. If you could try them out side by side you'll notice the difference right away. If you enjoy and don't mind spending more for quality the G27 or Fanatec is the obvious choice. If you are more budget conscious but still want something that functions well, then the DFGT is for you.
I'd say if you just want to get used to a wheel and you aren't that into the game the DFGT is a good wheel and you'll really enjoy it. If you are more serious the DFGT is still a good choice but you'll get much more enjoyment out of the G27 or the Fanatec. If you could try them out side by side you'll notice the difference right away. If you enjoy and don't mind spending more for quality the G27 or Fanatec is the obvious choice. If you are more budget conscious but still want something that functions well, then the DFGT is for you.
- 1,829
- Ireland
You could always get a special deal pack from Fanatec like this one 259.95€ Incl. 19% VAT http://eu.fanatec.com/Bundles?product_id=159 Its €40 cheaper than the G27 and the pedals are fantastic. I have the CSR elite pedals , but I cant use them with the DFP. You can get a similar pack from them with the CSR pedals for €10 less but the standard CSR pedals arent near as good as the CSR Elite pedals.
- 630
- Friesland
- djslofstra
My G27 was with the standard logitech discount only 270 euro's incl. 21% VAT that we have in Holland. The big advantage: Three year warranty, an H-SHIFTER and not the bad service Fanatec seems to give.
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- asdfg11
Bought a Driving Force GT back with GT5 and loved it. I personally still find it extremely difficult to ever catch a large slide with the wheel, it seems I can't rotate the wheel fast enough most of the time.
You deffo need to consider the space required to store a wheel, pretty big bits of gear.
The pedals are the weak point, unlike a real car it's really hard to judge how much pressure you are applying.
That being said I got a warranty replacement due to off centre issue and resetting issue and the replacement wheel's new pedals feel quite a bit firmer. Seems they did a few tiny tweaks. New one come comes in a blue box.
Sadly my replacement showed up faulty and Logitech are being very difficult and I'm just left with two half working wheels waiting for them to collect both.
I would probably look at other brands to be honest, every Logitech item I have owned just slowly fell apart. Multiple keyboards and mice, speakers and now two wheels all broken.
You deffo need to consider the space required to store a wheel, pretty big bits of gear.
The pedals are the weak point, unlike a real car it's really hard to judge how much pressure you are applying.
That being said I got a warranty replacement due to off centre issue and resetting issue and the replacement wheel's new pedals feel quite a bit firmer. Seems they did a few tiny tweaks. New one come comes in a blue box.
Sadly my replacement showed up faulty and Logitech are being very difficult and I'm just left with two half working wheels waiting for them to collect both.
I would probably look at other brands to be honest, every Logitech item I have owned just slowly fell apart. Multiple keyboards and mice, speakers and now two wheels all broken.
- 534
- Jakarta
- Chiyo_Cute
I'm still using my DFGT from GT5, it was my first wheel.
But I wish I had the extra money to buy a better one, with the belt system rather than this "geary" gear system.. the gear vibration really ruins the sensation, it feels toyish, I can even count the gear with slight movement.. and it's noisy when you turn it fast.
Anyone know good (cheap entry level) belt system steering wheel?
But I wish I had the extra money to buy a better one, with the belt system rather than this "geary" gear system.. the gear vibration really ruins the sensation, it feels toyish, I can even count the gear with slight movement.. and it's noisy when you turn it fast.
Anyone know good (cheap entry level) belt system steering wheel?
- 3,232
- Wales
Until kaz decides that manual gears should work properly in a simulator then there is no need for the clutch. still the G27 is a much better quality overall wheel.
Why is the clutch useless?
1. No clutch slip, in GT the clutch is an on off switch and so it works nothing like an actual clutch.
2. Gears miss a lot, the game is extremely picky of how you change gear, you cannot change gear as you would in your real car, watching inside sim racing's 1hour video shows it hasn't changed, they missed more gears in 1 lap than I have missed in the entirety of the time I've been driving!
3. Paddles give an advantage, Assetto Corsa for example has a set gear change time for paddles, but if you use a clutch + h-shifter it will simply shift as fast as you shift (meaning slightly faster if you're good), but in GT paddles is always faster.
So the clutch doesn't work properly, gears miss a lot and paddles are faster. Shame but thats how it is, it was my biggest peev in GT5 and one of the things I just hoped would be glaringly obvious and fixed for GT6. Still back on point, the G27 is simply a better wheel, better still of course would be the T500 RS.
Why is the clutch useless?
1. No clutch slip, in GT the clutch is an on off switch and so it works nothing like an actual clutch.
2. Gears miss a lot, the game is extremely picky of how you change gear, you cannot change gear as you would in your real car, watching inside sim racing's 1hour video shows it hasn't changed, they missed more gears in 1 lap than I have missed in the entirety of the time I've been driving!
3. Paddles give an advantage, Assetto Corsa for example has a set gear change time for paddles, but if you use a clutch + h-shifter it will simply shift as fast as you shift (meaning slightly faster if you're good), but in GT paddles is always faster.
So the clutch doesn't work properly, gears miss a lot and paddles are faster. Shame but thats how it is, it was my biggest peev in GT5 and one of the things I just hoped would be glaringly obvious and fixed for GT6. Still back on point, the G27 is simply a better wheel, better still of course would be the T500 RS.
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- Pardubice
- parostroj
I've had DFGT with GT5 for 3 years now and had DFP with GT4 before and I have to say If you are about driving then 900' wheel is a must.
The rest is up to your pocket.
DFGT is not cheap but really worth every penny but everytime there is..."I could buy this for just little more" ..but G27 is MUCH more and is on my buying list but very low (due to working DFGT).
If GT6 will be only thing you will be doing in your free time in next 3 years then buy G27 BUT if you want to enjoy driving in the game (I mean GT6, is there any other?:-)) and not ruin your acount buy DFGT. Just my advise..
The rest is up to your pocket.
DFGT is not cheap but really worth every penny but everytime there is..."I could buy this for just little more" ..but G27 is MUCH more and is on my buying list but very low (due to working DFGT).
If GT6 will be only thing you will be doing in your free time in next 3 years then buy G27 BUT if you want to enjoy driving in the game (I mean GT6, is there any other?:-)) and not ruin your acount buy DFGT. Just my advise..
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- Kent
- Ferrari-F1-Monza
I own a Logitech GT and I rather like the feel of it. The pedals are its weakness but you can always stiffen it up. Only thing I dislike is the paddles are buttons on the back of the wheel. However it does come with dials which make it easier to change settings on the fly plus if you're sad like me it's the satisfaction of pressing the Gran Turismo logo in frustration when you get cut up oh and also manual sequential which although it's small it's still a nice feeling changing gears except you're driving one handed most of the time around Nurburgring which in a group c car is pretty lairy
- 16
- Canada
- Makinen
Upgraded from the G25 to the G27 shortly after it was released because the G25 although it was a good wheel, it was super noisy.
I would love to get the Thrustmaster T500 - but that is silly money territory. I got my G27 for 50% off because my buddy worked at logitech at the time. If you can fork out a little more - I would seriously recommend you go for the better wheel. The DFGT is nice but not comparable to the G27 IMO.
I would love to get the Thrustmaster T500 - but that is silly money territory. I got my G27 for 50% off because my buddy worked at logitech at the time. If you can fork out a little more - I would seriously recommend you go for the better wheel. The DFGT is nice but not comparable to the G27 IMO.
Dragonwhisky
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- 7,324
- the land of green, hills, rocks & whiskey
- Dragonwhisky
I started GT5 with a DFGT. Ran with that for about a year. Bought a G27 and haven't looked back. Wife summed up the experience by asking, "So, did we just waste our money with that other wheel?" I told her, "yeah, probably." and sat down to enjoy a wheel that is not so toylike as the DFGT. Get the 27.
what made you upgrade to the g27?
One of the reason is that my DFGT started having issues of "stuck brake pedal" where even if you depress the brake pedal completely, the game registers as applying a tiny bit of braking (google it, it doesn't seem like an uncommon issue). It is a hardware issue and you can reset it mid-game, but it is still annoying.
The other reason I wanted to upgrade to G27 was the quality of the package. DFGT is all plastic, and it makes it look cheap (it is cheaper). Also the quieter motor and stuff.. Oink did a youtube video on comparison of the two, and he said G27 is by far the better wheel. He also said even DFGT is much better than not having a wheel at all. I tend to agree.
The difference you will see between DFGT and G27 (or other higher end wheels, which I don't have any experience with) won't be as big as between Dualshock and DFGT, at least in my opinion.
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