Driving paralysis after X1

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The human body can handle WAY, WAY, WAY MORE than the 8g that car can produce.

Yea, with a g suit :dunce:

The X2010 is an entirely realistic car. Admittedly, you would probably need a budget into the billions to fund such a thing, but it is entirely possible. Drivers could survive the punishment thus car could deal out, but they would need a g suit to withstand the constant forces, and need adnormably strong neck muscles.
 
Yea, with a g suit :dunce:

The X2010 is an entirely realistic car. Admittedly, you would probably need a budget into the billions to fund such a thing, but it is entirely possible. Drivers could survive the punishment thus car could deal out, but they would need a g suit to withstand the constant forces, and need adnormably strong neck muscles.
It probably has to do with tires (the hardest thing for games to simulate) as well the G-force on the driver than budget. The tires has to be able to handle all the weight added from so much down force to hold the car of the road at 8 G's at the same time be flexible to bend when it contact the road. The more down force is applied to the tires the more force it has to push back ( for every action there is the opposite equal reaction) which in turn generates a lot of heat.
In GT5 your tires are super flexible with super grip and totally indestructible (excluding tire wear).
 
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I don't really like driving the X-2010 just because of what the OP said. I end up driving like someone playing GT for the very first time. That car is fun, but it does make you forget what it means to have braking points, weight shifts...etc.
 
I'd just say don't drive it... it's a horrible car in my opinion... completely unreal... I know what you mean though, but I just took things slow again and within a few hours I was back to normal
 
Yea, with a g suit :dunce:

The X2010 is an entirely realistic car. Admittedly, you would probably need a budget into the billions to fund such a thing, but it is entirely possible. Drivers could survive the punishment thus car could deal out, but they would need a g suit to withstand the constant forces, and need adnormably strong neck muscles.

Yep, Because a G suit is gonna stop your left lung dancing the tango with your right lung. A G suit is designed to keep the blood even throughout the body, when dealing with vertical G's. When it comes to lateral G's, like in the X2010, there isnt a way of stopping all your organs inside your body having a little bit of a tea party and squishing each other to oblivion. One way to reduce the forces would be a long, banked track where the corner banking converts the longitudinal G's into lateral G's and then a G suit would be effective.
 
Yep, Because a G suit is gonna stop your left lung dancing the tango with your right lung. A G suit is designed to keep the blood even throughout the body, when dealing with vertical G's. When it comes to lateral G's, like in the X2010, there isnt a way of stopping all your organs inside your body having a little bit of a tea party and squishing each other to oblivion. One way to reduce the forces would be a long, banked track where the corner banking converts the longitudinal G's into lateral G's and then a G suit would be effective.

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It probably has to do with tires (the hardest thing for games to simulate) as well the G-force on the driver than budget. The tires has to be able to handle all the weight added from so much down force to hold the car of the road at 8 G's at the same time be flexible to bend when it contact the road. The more down force is applied to the tires the more force it has to push back ( for every action there is the opposite equal reaction) which in turn generates a lot of heat.
In GT5 your tires are super flexible with super grip and totally indestructible (excluding tire wear).

Tyres, didnt think about those. Although, to an extent f1 tyres could work for a little bit (at least the bridgestones of yesteryear). Buy no one really knows until one if them is actually loaded with the forces though, so who knows until its tried.

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Yep, Because a G suit is gonna stop your left lung dancing the tango with your right lung. A G suit is designed to keep the blood even throughout the body, when dealing with vertical G's. When it comes to lateral G's, like in the X2010, there isnt a way of stopping all your organs inside your body having a little bit of a tea party and squishing each other to oblivion. One way to reduce the forces would be a long, banked track where the corner banking converts the longitudinal G's into lateral G's and then a G suit would be effective.

I assume a g suit would assist in keeping your organs in their right order to some extent, moreso than wearing just a t shirt and jeans. Although yes, a suit that could allow the body to withstand such lateral g would be paramount.
 
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A better example would be Indy cars at Charlotte. (Indy cars are closer to F1 than Nascar) Indy cars gets up to 5 G's around that track. Some drivers have make the comment they felt like they were about to pass out when racing at Charlotte.
 
I have friends who complain about this all the time, but it never happens to me. After driving the X2010 for around 20-30 minutes, it only takes me a few corners to get back to normal. Personally though, if I had your problem, I'd do what con360 suggested (3rd post). Seems like a good way to get your skill back up.
 
Yea, with a g suit :dunce:

The X2010 is an entirely realistic car. Admittedly, you would probably need a budget into the billions to fund such a thing, but it is entirely possible. Drivers could survive the punishment thus car could deal out, but they would need a g suit to withstand the constant forces, and need adnormably strong neck muscles.



I would say it's unrealistic because it's capable of generating more G than a human could withstand. Of course it's possible to build it, no aspect of its construction is unrealistic, but the lack of realism comes from the fact that it would be undrivable to the extent that we do in GT5. That said, a lot of concept cars in the game (and previous games in the series) never had engines installed, some didn't even have interiors, in fact there are probably a few that never made it past the drawing board. They did at least make a clay model of the X2010, though.

I personally never drive it because I find slower cars far more fun. In fact, no, it's not that I find slower cars more fun, I just find the X2010 incredibly boring. I get no satisfaction when I drive it, but if I manage to nail a lap of whatever track in the XJR9, or beat my highest drifting score in a car I've never driven before, or if I beat a lap time I set in a faster car with a more mundane one, that gives me a lot of satisfaction.

Completely disagree that its entirely realistic. So you guys are 100% the only reason its fantasy is because it just hasn't been built, but they could if they wanted to, and its entirely doable based on todays technology?

If they build the X2010 and it performs like it does in GT5 I will gladly eat both of your excrement.
I make that drastic claim but say that comfortably because I am certain that thing only works how it does in GT5s 0 and 1s and not the real world.

Heck I'll even give if you if gets within 10% of how it performs in gt5. Surely just one proof of concept car can be built by some billionaire enthusiast and then some good test driver can go around the nurburgring in 3 seconds.
 
Completely disagree that its entirely realistic. So you guys are 100% the only reason its fantasy is because it just hasn't been built, but they could if they wanted to, and its entirely doable based on todays technology?

If they build the X2010 and it performs like it does in GT5 I will gladly eat both of your excrement.
I make that drastic claim but say that comfortably because I am certain that thing only works how it does in GT5s 0 and 1s and not the real world.

Heck I'll even give if you if gets within 10% of how it performs in gt5. Surely just one proof of concept car can be built by some billionaire enthusiast and then some good test driver can go around the nurburgring in 3 seconds.

Fan technology, Check.
1400hp Twin Turbo V6 tech, Check.
The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff,
Enclosed cockpit Tech, Check.
LMP Style Wheel Covers, Check.
F1 style Monocoque, Check.
Adrian Newey Designed. Just Look at vettel and that shows how much of a genious he is when conforming to the rules, How can this not be done? I fail to see what aspect of this vehicle is unacheivable, Ok, in theory it could drive better in real life because the new thing, off throttle blown diffuser, could be thrown in, along with KERS and DRS. This car is 100% buildable with todays technology. I fail to see why Adrian Newey would design something thats nothing more than an unrealistic pipe dream.

Yes, Ok, they will not build it due to the huge cost and its pretty much unusable, (except a Le Mans rule loop hole to my understanding) How can you say this cant work?


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Except Imagine Monza, All corners banked, make the track twice as wide, run off areas 5 times bigger, and your set.

I assume a g suit would assist in keeping your organs in their right order to some extent, moreso than wearing just a t shirt and jeans. Although yes, a suit that could allow the body to withstand such lateral g would be paramount.

Yes Indeed, such a suit would be paramount and would allow technology like this to take off.
 
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Completely disagree that its entirely realistic. So you guys are 100% the only reason its fantasy is because it just hasn't been built, but they could if they wanted to, and its entirely doable based on todays technology?

If they build the X2010 and it performs like it does in GT5 I will gladly eat both of your excrement.
I make that drastic claim but say that comfortably because I am certain that thing only works how it does in GT5s 0 and 1s and not the real world.

Heck I'll even give if you if gets within 10% of how it performs in gt5. Surely just one proof of concept car can be built by some billionaire enthusiast and then some good test driver can go around the nurburgring in 3 seconds.

That's a fairly bold claim for someone who clearly doesn't understand how they get the physics of each car in the game. Brief overview on how it works: pd are given (Im most cases) figures from the manufacturer themselves, relating to anything and everything a numerical value. All these figures are then compiled together in one massive spreadsheet (one much like you could make on Microsoft Excel). The numbers are thrown together in complex equations to produce what may seem like random numbers, but are infact the values they will use to determine how a car drives. Case in point, the GT by Citreon; a car made for pd first, then the real work second. Citreon gave the figures, and pd essentially made the car. Yes, there is scope for error but not so massive that the car will handle completely differently in real life then in the game. I would also like to point out the fact they hired one Mr Adrian Newey, possibly one of the greatest f1 car designers in this modern age, to design and oversee the project. He designed the car using the same cad models he would use to design the latest red bull f1 car and then test scale models in the same wind tunnel they would do all the aero tests on the red bull cars (because track testing is banned). So all in all I would say it would perform very close to how it performs in the game, with both tyres and driver being the obvious limitations, as well as cost.

On second thoughts, that wasnt really that brief. Whoops...

Nismo34
Fan technology, Check.
1400hp Twin Turbo V6 tech, Check.
The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff,
Enclosed cockpit Tech, Check.
LMP Style Wheel Covers, Check.
F1 style Monocoque, Check.
Adrian Newey Designed. Just Look at vettel and that shows how much of a genious he is when conforming to the rules, How can this not be done? I fail to see what aspect of this vehicle is unacheivable, Ok, in theory it could drive better in real life because the new thing, off throttle blown diffuser, could be thrown in, along with KERS and DRS. This car is 100% buildable with todays technology. I fail to see why Adrian Newey would design something thats nothing more than an unrealistic pipe dream.

Yes, Ok, they will not build it due to the huge cost and its pretty much unusable, (except a Le Mans rule loop hole to my understanding) How can you say this cant work?

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Fan technology, Check.
1400hp Twin Turbo V6 tech, Check.
The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff,
Enclosed cockpit Tech, Check.
LMP Style Wheel Covers, Check.
F1 style Monocoque, Check.
Adrian Newey Designed. Just Look at vettel and that shows how much of a genious he is when conforming to the rules, How can this not be done? I fail to see what aspect of this vehicle is unacheivable, Ok, in theory it could drive better in real life because the new thing, off throttle blown diffuser, could be thrown in, along with KERS and DRS. This car is 100% buildable with todays technology. I fail to see why Adrian Newey would design something thats nothing more than an unrealistic pipe dream.

Yes, Ok, they will not build it due to the huge cost and its pretty much unusable, (except a Le Mans rule loop hole to my understanding) How can you say this cant work?




Except Imagine Monza, All corners banked, make the track twice as wide, run off areas 5 times bigger, and your set.



Yes Indeed, such a suit would be paramount and would allow technology like this to take off.

1400hp twin turbo engine check.
Enclosed cockpit Tech, Check.
LMP Style Wheel Covers, Check.
F1 style Monocoque, Check.
Adrian Newey Designed.

Ok I agree you can achieve all these on a single vehicle.

However "The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff, "

This is the BS part. Do you actually think you can generate that much road holding ability without making the machine become hugely unstable and unpredictable? I guess since you did not mention it you yourself don't even know a huge part of the justification is that there is suction force to suck the car onto the road in addition to down-force. Chaparral used to do a similar thing before it was banned 70s.

However what they think they have done with the x1 may work well on paper or on a perfect track, but not even CLOSE to what the X1 does in GT5. Aerodynamics and suction grip combined with such a lightweight car, you are in for one hell of an accident on or close to the first corner because real world road conditions are not like in tron, just a flat 2d floor.

If they ever make that thing it will just break-dance into the barrier at record speed.

Basically throw a piece of paper out the window doing 60mph thats what will happen to the x2010 IMO.

Oh and what current tyres going to be used to serve the X2010 needs?

I'm telling you if I saw a real X1 doing what it does in GT5 I wouldn't believe my eyes. I would probably have to find a rock to sit on and just stare at the floor. It is that far away from a realistic scenario to me.



That's a fairly bold claim for someone who clearly doesn't understand how they get the physics of each car in the game.

How about you try understand real physics before you understand GT5 physics.


IF you think, yup, that looks about right for what the X1 would be like if it were built then IMO you don't.
 
To the OP, try this step by step on your X1:
- lower the HP
- increase the weight
- lower the downforce

Then you switch to LMP cars with max downforce

and so on...

good luck
 
However "The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff, "

This is the BS part. Do you actually think you can generate that much road holding ability without making the machine become hugely unstable and unpredictable? I guess since you did not mention it you yourself don't even know a huge part of the justification is that there is suction force to suck the car onto the road in addition to down-force. Chaparral used to do a similar thing before it was banned 70s.

However what they think they have done with the x1 may work well on paper or on a perfect track, but not even CLOSE to what the X1 does in GT5. Aerodynamics and suction grip combined with such a lightweight car, you are in for one hell of an accident on or close to the first corner because real world road conditions are not like in tron, just a flat 2d floor.

You dont need all that much more downforce. A current F1 front and rear Aero kit ought to do just fine. I still fail to see how on earth this isnt possible. Adjustable ride height, adjust spring rates, that'd help keep it on teh track. its all logical, Every aspect of this car can work in real life. Current formula 1 tyres should do. Ok, lets take a little detour. Take an F1 car, Whilst running a high downforce setup, tyres last quite nicely. Start slipstreaming behind another car, all of a sudden the tyres need to work double time to keep the car on the track, add a fan and that takes stress off the tyres so they dont wear as greatly. Apply that to here with the X2010, F1 tyres will do the trick. Next argument...
 
Lol current F1 tyres will not do what they do on the x1 in gt5.

And this is what will happen to the X1 almost instantly if you built it then drove it like in gt5



keep in mind these cars move like mobility scooter speeds compared to the x1 and they still flip not to mention they are carefully driven by real people whose lives depend on how they drive and in a manner not even close how you can the x1 can be in gt5.

In Gt5 the X1 has godlike road holding ability, nothing upsets it. You can drive at 300mph around a dukes of hazard road and it will be perfectly stable and take it like a champ. Do you really think air will never get under the car?

Yea just tweak some spring rates and camber settings, she'll be right to take that hairpin at full speed. Car physics lecture complete party time!
 
Lol current F1 tyres will not do what they do on the x1 in gt5.

And this is what will happen to the X1 almost instantly if you built it then drove it like in gt5



keep in mind these cars move like mobility scooter speeds compared to the x1 and they still flip not to mention they are carefully driven by real people whose lives depend on how they drive and in a manner not even close how you can the x1 can be in gt5.

In Gt5 the X1 has godlike road holding ability, nothing upsets it. You can drive at 300mph around a dukes of hazard road and it will be perfectly stable and take it like a champ. Do you really think air will never get under the car?

Yea just tweak some spring rates and camber settings, she'll be right to take that hairpin at full speed. Car physics lecture complete party time!


I didnt know we had this in gt5
bmw-x1-23d.jpg


Back to the X2010, You are forgetting it has something those Le Mans cars dont, I'll let you work that one out *Coughhugefancough*.

Why wont F1 tyres work aye?

This is exactly like the F1 around Mt Panorama theory. It can be done but people still believe it cant.
 
How about you try understand real physics before you understand GT5 physics.


IF you think, yup, that looks about right for what the X1 would be like if it were built then IMO you don't.


As surreal as it seems, I wouldnt struggle to believe it. If you go back 30 years in F1, I very highly doubt the engineers at the time knew how fast the cars of the future would be through the corners. Same principal really. Technology now is upgraded at such a rate that both you and I cannot quite fully grasp just how outdated the cars of, say, 5-10 years ago are. Just because you cant grasp the effect all the different aero tech that the X2010 has combined togther, doesnt mean it cannot exist

And this is what will happen to the X1 almost instantly if you built it then drove it like in gt5



keep in mind these cars move like mobility scooter speeds compared to the x1 and they still flip not to mention they are carefully driven by real people whose lives depend on how they drive and in a manner not even close how you can the x1 can be in gt5.

In Gt5 the X1 has godlike road holding ability, nothing upsets it. You can drive at 300mph around a dukes of hazard road and it will be perfectly stable and take it like a champ. Do you really think air will never get under the car?

Yea just tweak some spring rates and camber settings, she'll be right to take that hairpin at full speed. Car physics lecture complete party time!


The fact you used the CLR video proves that you dont understand what is going on here. The CLR was a rushed concept, and had never had any real aero testing before it was actuallly driven. The shape and airflow of the CLR turned the car into a wing when enough air got underneath it. It was an aerodynamically flawwed design, where as the X2010 isnt.

The fan plus the essentially F1 spec aero (if not better than F1 aero) are what provide the massive roadholding that the car has, and one thing that has to be remembered is again that technology is better than it was 40 years ago. The engine powering the fan wouldve been alot less powerful in the Chapparel and Brabham F1 car, as was the aero at the time. And what did both cars do in their respective seasons? Dominate, so much so that they were banned. Fast forward 40 years, and the higher downforce plus more powerful fan would provide downforce at much higher levels would mean that F1 level speeds would easily be surpassable. Much like how the X2010 dominates every car in the game. Funny that...

And one point about the fan tech that you seem to be continually missing out on, and is actually the most important bit; the ground effect. What causes it are essentially two skirting boards that run alongside each side of the car. They are what cause a great deal of the suction, and work even without a fan (Hello Porsche 956) to provide extra suction. And how does the car keep such high suction levels without being so aerodynamically unstable over bumps and ruts you ask? They move and flex independantly of each other, to follow the contours of the tracks surface. They continue to essentially block out the turbulant outside air from the sides, and create and continue to provide mass amounts of suction to the track by making car create a low pressure system underneath the car. Which funnily enough, was also another bit of tech banned from most forms of motorsport, if not all.
 
Hi everyone :)

I´m quite enjoying the discussion. I pretty much love the X2010. Maybe because it kind of shows what "could be" possible if engineers could work without limitations...

For all of you with less than 15 years old, 70s and 80s F1 was even more advanced than today in terms of aero and engine work. The problem was that they were "too fast" for real people to drive it...

But think about this... with a "concept" like B-spec, and REAL CARS on track, being driven by "you or me" in EXTERNAL COCKPITS... The X2010 concept could well be possible to try in real life.... With the obvious multi-millon dollar problem in case of a (almos certain) crash... but it could happen.... 20 or 30 years? Who knows...

And back of topic.
Want to get back to drive in the real world. Take any normal car you like. Mount Confort tyres (or see the guide post in the forum), use the interior view WITHOUT HUD AND DRIVING AIDS and go to the Green Hell, with "realtime weather"...

In 30 minutes you´ll be "back on track" :D (or dead... btw)..

Bye !
 
Actually, they've (Red Bull) already built the chassis of the car. It is described as being AT OR NEAR the limits of what the human body can withstand. Therefore it is possible for the car to do at least 75-85% of it's cornering capabilities in the best of conditions. It isn't realistically possible to drive it at its full potential on tracks that have even the most perfect conditions.


You must remember, that this car is designed for GT5, but has been built without engine. And to drive it at its full potential, requires skill beyond even an F1 driver and LM driver combined. Years of intense physical training, especially of the neck, is required. And reflexes of a dragracer launching with a Reaction Time of 0.0001 is necessary for hitting braking points.


If you truly want to be cynical, then of the toughest F1 drivers of all time, none would be able to just walk up, and do 55 seconds around the 3.2 mile Nurburgring GP circuit and be pain-free. And if you misjudge anything, you die.
 
Fan technology, Check.
1400hp Twin Turbo V6 tech, Check.
The front and rear wing creating additional downforce, Like come on thats easy enuff,
Enclosed cockpit Tech, Check.
LMP Style Wheel Covers, Check.
F1 style Monocoque, Check.

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Where the indestructible tires? Do you think the reason it's not built is it would be very unsafe? It's the same as claiming in theory with today's technology we could reach toward the stars but not practical or realistic.
How about you try understand real physics before you understand GT5 physics.


IF you think, yup, that looks about right for what the X1 would be like if it were built then IMO you don't.
I wouldn't be surprised if the math show the tires in that video with have to handle 10 times (if not more) the amount of force and heat than F1 tire does.
 
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In order to prevent this paralysis, I suggest not jumping into other cars so quickly if you've just used the X2010. Go to a practice session so you can "calm your nerves."
 
It's strange this kinda thing never happens to me I get the hang of things quickly I suppose. :) If I were you I'd just try a F40 on sport hards on fuji. You'll eventually get the used to the whole throttle control/ counter steer thing again.
 
I didnt know we had this in gt5
bmw-x1-23d.jpg


Back to the X2010, You are forgetting it has something those Le Mans cars dont, I'll let you work that one out *Coughhugefancough*.

Why wont F1 tyres work aye?

I am well aware of down force and suction and ground effects. I think downfoce fan cars are a great idea. I never said it wasn't a huge factor and would not insanely take driving capabilities to another level. You guys are IMO just overvaluing it.

I am saying that gt5 does not depict a correct representation of a real world built X1.

As surreal as it seems, I wouldnt struggle to believe it. If you go back 30 years in F1, I very highly doubt the engineers at the time knew how fast the cars of the future would be through the corners. Same principal really. Technology now is upgraded at such a rate that both you and I cannot quite fully grasp just how outdated the cars of, say, 5-10 years ago are. Just because you cant grasp the effect all the different aero tech that the X2010 has combined togther, doesnt mean it cannot exist

Didn't say cant exist. I am saying in a real world the X1 would not behave as well as it does in gt5.

The fact you used the CLR video proves that you dont understand what is going on here. The CLR was a rushed concept, and had never had any real aero testing before it was actuallly driven. The shape and airflow of the CLR turned the car into a wing when enough air got underneath it. It was an aerodynamically flawwed design, where as the X2010 isnt.

I was simply visual demonstrating in a broad manner how a 600-900kg car of that size is treated by the air at those speeds. Keeping in mind the X1 literally doubles the figures.

The fan plus the essentially F1 spec aero (if not better than F1 aero) are what provide the massive roadholding that the car has, and one thing that has to be remembered is again that technology is better than it was 40 years ago. The engine powering the fan wouldve been alot less powerful in the Chapparel and Brabham F1 car, as was the aero at the time. And what did both cars do in their respective seasons? Dominate, so much so that they were banned. Fast forward 40 years, and the higher downforce plus more powerful fan would provide downforce at much higher levels would mean that F1 level speeds would easily be surpassable. Much like how the X2010 dominates every car in the game. Funny that...

Funny that I could make a wind up powered hamster dominate every car in GT5 If I was programming a game.

And one point about the fan tech that you seem to be continually missing out on, and is actually the most important bit; the ground effect. What causes it are essentially two skirting boards that run alongside each side of the car. They are what cause a great deal of the suction, and work even without a fan (Hello Porsche 956) to provide extra suction. And how does the car keep such high suction levels without being so aerodynamically unstable over bumps and ruts you ask? They move and flex independantly of each other, to follow the contours of the tracks surface. They continue to essentially block out the turbulant outside air from the sides, and create and continue to provide mass amounts of suction to the track by making car create a low pressure system underneath the car. Which funnily enough, was also another bit of tech banned from most forms of motorsport, if not all.

Yes extra suction, grip, cornering speeds. None of these are being doubted by anyone. What you seem to have done though is expressed the belief these technologies capable of achieving these tasks without question and flawlessly.

You can talk about it from a simple technical perspective but that is a far cry from a real world X1 doing what it does in GT5. If you cant think about it in any other way then theres probably little that will convince you otherwise.

Please do contact me though if they do build the X1 in our lifetime and it turns out like in GT5.

Where the indestructible tires? Do you think the reason it's not built is it would be very unsafe? It's the same as claiming in theory with today's technology we could reach toward the stars but not practical or realistic. I wouldn't be surprised if the math show the tires in that video with have to handle 10 times (if not more) the amount of force and heat than F1 tire does.

I would say closer to 20-40 especially when putting the car up half of the track +elevation at a speed of 250mph+

Even the suspension components have to be made of magic to perform these duties let alone the aero and tyre side of it.

Anyone with a good sense of physics knows the X1 in gt5 serves a good purpose but its for a laugh and as a joke. It also reminds you that a depiction of realism is just a change in numerals in the code of the game.
 
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It's all in your body.

For that long, you would get used to its handling. And since you're already adapted to the X1, your reflexes would even think a Fiat 500 can handle like an X1 too...
 
I've been having the same "Paralysis" when grinding with a F1 car. I don't have an X1 yet. It usually goes away within 5-10 laps of driving a road car.
 
Your reflexes would even think a Fiat 500 can handle like an X1 too...

I'll just take a quote from my review of the X2010 as evidence. :cool:

It's sort of like alcohol in a way since it can at times make you feel invincible against corners. And it can sometimes result in quite an effect against your driving ability of other cars. So...

THINK! Don't overuse the X2010
 
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