Driving Physics

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Hello all. I couldent find a thread about this topic in the search box, if there is please redirect me ^^
So we all know you can go to options, and choose Driving Physics (wheel, G27) from Amateur to Professional, to Simulator.
Can someone please tell me what is the diffrence? I am not intrested in Amateur, I just want to know if to go with Pro or Sim.
Help me, and thanks for replies.
 
I'm not sure if those settings apply to your wheel. I think with the driving force pro - the options you mentioned grey out - the little wheel icons at the top of the page. Maybe your wheel is the same. Someone should be able to tell you i guess.
 
I have been trying to feel a difference so I could describe it, but was not successful till now.

What I did notice is that very fast drivers change the setting depending on car/circuit combination. Sometime one setting gives more control, sometimes the other does.

So recommendation seems to be, try it out when you are trying to beat a time and know the track very well.
 
Vince_Fiero
I have been trying to feel a difference so I could describe it, but was not successful till now.

What I did notice is that very fast drivers change the setting depending on car/circuit combination. Sometime one setting gives more control, sometimes the other does.

So recommendation seems to be, try it out when you are trying to beat a time and know the track very well.
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Are you sure that setting applies to his wheel - I thought it was just the power steering on and off options that applied. I will have to check when I get chance now. I'd not bothered changing this setting as I thought it didn't apply. Ha well.
 
I used to play with Sim with my DFP, then I changes to a G27 and while waiting for system update, I red that Pro is insanley hard to control vs Standard physics. Not sure about Sim, nor Am.
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I have a DFGT and ever used Sim, and I'm pretty fast with this settings, so if you can, go with it ;)
 
Andy89
I have a DFGT and ever used Sim, and I'm pretty fast with this settings, so if you can, go with it ;)
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As previously stated, the Sim setting is only for the Driving Force Pro (DFP). I use the Driving Force GT (DFGT) as well.

Someone said that 10 force feedback is good, and I have to strongly disagree. I tried 10 and it's doable, but it isn't very realistic though I thought it would be before I tried it. In my opinion (it isn't too reliable because I don't have a G27), you should use 2-4 force feedback.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I am not so sure they would design a whole system of physics for one wheel.
Either way, is there ANY diffrance between pro and sim?
 
MrDrift98
I am not so sure they would design a whole system of physics for one wheel.
Either way, is there ANY diffrance between pro and sim?
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Well for the DFGT and DFP, the settings that apply to either wheel are known by going over them with the "pointer/cursor" and seeing if the wheel lights up. The Amateur/Simulation settings make the DFP light up, or become highlighted. The Force Feedback and Power Assist Steering highlight the DFGT wheel. So if that doesn't apply to the G27 at all, I shouldn't be credible anymore.

So please, for the love of GOD!, someone help.
 
another_jakhole
Well for the DFGT and DFP, the settings that apply to either wheel are known by going over them with the "pointer/cursor" and seeing if the wheel lights up. The Amateur/Simulation settings make the DFP light up, or become highlighted. The Force Feedback and Power Assist Steering highlight the DFGT wheel. So if that doesn't apply to the G27 at all, I shouldn't be credible anymore.

So please, for the love of GOD!, someone help.
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To be honest I dont care about the DFP, DFGT and theyr lights. I just want to know the diffrance between pro and sim, please :{
 
MrDrift98
To be honest I dont care about the DFP, DFGT and theyr lights. I just want to know the diffrance between pro and sim, please :{
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No, I know. I didn't say lights, I said highlighted. Meaning on the TV screen, the wheels light up which shows that the settings work for that wheel that is highlighted. Considering I don't have a G27, I said I shouldn't be credible anymore, meaning we need someone else to comment on this subject. I'm sorry.
 
there's description when you pull down the list of options, including types of wheels that supports that feature, i remember 2, one is dfgt
i do not have a wheel currently but from what i read, amateur have the most assist and simulation have no (counter steer mabye? can't remember) assist at all.
the description should be at the bottom of the screen when you pull down the list of options
 
YankeeRanger
there's description when you pull down the list of options, including types of wheels that supports that feature, i remember 2, one is dfgt
i do not have a wheel currently but from what i read, amateur have the most assist and simulation have no (counter steer mabye? can't remember) assist at all.
the description should be at the bottom of the screen when you pull down the list of options
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I thought that when you go into the menu that lets you select amatuer/pro etc - the only two wheels that are highlighted - meaning these are the wheels that the setting applies to - are the two most basic logitech wheels - not the driving force pro and above.
 
No. To everyone, no.
There are wheels that are not suported by GT, but are suported. I mean they are not registerd as a GT wheel, such as thrustmaster, fanatec, g27/25 etc. Thos wheels can NOT be programed, but they are suported by FFB. Wich means they are also affected by Physics engine.
Aperently, Simulator has no assist, such as over (more then real) countersteer. Amateur has alot of assists, pro has same assist yet decreased.
 
MrDrift98
No. To everyone, no.
There are wheels that are not suported by GT, but are suported. I mean they are not registerd as a GT wheel, such as thrustmaster, fanatec, g27/25 etc. Thos wheels can NOT be programed, but they are suported by FFB. Wich means they are also affected by Physics engine.
Aperently, Simulator has no assist, such as over (more then real) countersteer. Amateur has alot of assists, pro has same assist yet decreased.
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I see what you mean - I never claimed to know how his g27 would be 'simulated' by gt5 ie what type of wheel the game pretends it is.I just know it wasn't fully supported. The only advice I could give was what happens with my dfpro - because for all I knew it could see his g27 as a dfpro. :)
 
Bear Ziffa
I see what you mean - I never claimed to know how his g27 would be 'simulated' by gt5 ie what type of wheel the game pretends it is.I just know it wasn't fully supported. The only advice I could give was what happens with my dfpro - because for all I knew it could see his g27 as a dfpro. :)
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And I thought the g25 (as you stated) could be programmed as the game sees it as a driving force pro.
 
MrDrift98
G25 is a G27, just louder and without rev meter.
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As far as I knew, the game sees a g25 as a driving force pro - and you can edit buttons. Not so with the g27. So they aren't the same, if I am right that is.
 
Tried again yesterday with a G25, used as test IB3 (FR Slalom with FT-86) and IB8 (F40 through carousel).

With lousy drivers like me it is difficult to feel the difference between Simulation and Professional settings, or the steering wheel / program reacts the same.
 
Vince_Fiero
Tried again yesterday with a G25, used as test IB3 (FR Slalom with FT-86) and IB8 (F40 through carousel).

With lousy drivers like me it is difficult to feel the difference between Simulation and Professional settings, or the steering wheel / program reacts the same.
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If the game sees your g25 as a driving force pro then it won't apply to you - so it's no suprise you can't see the difference.
 
The setting is only for older wheels with a low total steering angle (for example 200 degrees). It regulates the amount of steering assist (the same assist that is forced on DS3 users - without it it would impossible to drive with a gamepad) in corners, when countersteering and with increasing speeds. Even at "simulation" there's still some amount of it having effect.

The Nissan Time Trial demo didn't have it at all, so with a 200 degrees wheel it was very hard to keep the car stable on a straight line.
 

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