Driving with a wheel

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starskey1
For those of you that use a wheel, do you drive in sim mode or normal? Have tried for a while to have an enjoyable experience in sim mode but have to admit that I have reduced myself to normal which allows me the chance to drive reasonabily quick & correct it when things get a bit out of shape. I use the GT2. Opinions?:)
 
AdoringOrange34
For those of you that use a wheel, do you drive in sim mode or normal? Have tried for a while to have an enjoyable experience in sim mode but have to admit that I have reduced myself to normal which allows me the chance to drive reasonabily quick & correct it when things get a bit out of shape. I use the GT2. Opinions?:)
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I drive always in sim mode, for me it's not being the quickest, it's about experiencing physics in it's full potential. If I wanted to be quickest I would probably use controller :-)
 
I've used sim steering since day 1. It works for me and I don't have any problems putting up good times....I also use a GT2. It's really a matter of preference though...do what you feel comfortable with. 👍
 
I use normal. This was the sim mode pre patch. Post patch front engine rear wheel drive seems nerfed to me.
Online in sim mode will get you creamed.

I'm happy to join a lobby if everyone is running the same.
 
In online I have tried sim mode & yes I do always get beaten. I guess thats down to the racing factor & pushing hard. In offline & practice then yeah sim could be better for me in terms of experience & practice. Quite new to online racing so what would be my best bet to find a race with not just all wheels users but fair drivers that will not side swipe you just because you have the edge. Cheers guys:)
 
Dzidza
I drive always in sim mode, for me it's not being the quickest, it's about experiencing physics in it's full potential. If I wanted to be quickest I would probably use controller :-)
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This.
 
Always drive in sim mode and with 360º to 720º steering rotation, clutch and H shifter. I don't care if the car was supposed to be a semi or automatic I just like to keep busy whilst playing.

I'm as slow as hell though!
 
t.o.
Sim with Steering set to OFF (let the game dictate the degrees). Just a tad better way. ;)
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I will try this! I did not know FM had 900 degree steering from the start.
 
t.o.
Sim with Steering set to OFF (let the game dictate the degrees). Just a tad better way. ;)
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Really? Had no idea. Are you saying that the game will dictate what setting to use based on what cars you are driving, street car vs. race care etc.??
 
Unfortunately guys this game wasn't meant for 900 degrees for every car. Sorry but that's just the way it is. Fanatec has an "off" setting and what that does is let the game tell the wheel what it wants the sensitivity to be and I've rarely (if ever) got 900 degrees. It's just the way it is. However what I DID get was way and I mean WAY better feeling from different cars this way. Seems like each car comes to life in it's own this way.

It could just be me but that's what I've experienced. Once I did "OFF" I haven't gone back. I suggest you give it a while before passing judgement.
 
t.o.
Sim with Steering set to OFF (let the game dictate the degrees). Just a tad better way. ;)
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Then it will be set at the games standard setting of 270 which really makes the sim steering option useless. To get the best out of the sim steering option you should have the degrees setting at 900. It also loses all of its challenge when set at anything lower than 900 and it becomes easy to control
 
hennessey86
Then it will be set at the games standard setting of 270 which really makes the sim steering option useless. To get the best out of the sim steering option you should have the degrees setting at 900. It also loses all of its challenge when set at anything lower than 900 and it becomes easy to control
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I'm not quite sure if it's the game standard setting or the console standard setting, but yes, on Xbox, OFF = 270°, for Forza 3 and 4 anyway.
 
t.o.
Sim with Steering set to OFF (let the game dictate the degrees). Just a tad better way. ;)
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No. OFF and 270 do the exact same thing. 900 is the way to go.
One thing I've found very effective is the drift mode on the fanatec. It's not so much of a drift mode, as it is an emulator of power steering. Sim steering without drift mode on is not realistic at all. It just takes way too much force to countersteer without drift mode, and you need quite a bit of countersteering to use sim steering. Also, linearity at 10 really helps with responsiveness near the center of the wheel, something which forza lacks big time.

I use sim steering, fanatec gt2 btw.
Sen 900
FF 100
Sho 100
ABS 70
DRI 3
Lin 10
Dea 0
Spr 0
Dpr 0
 
Goshin2568
No. OFF and 270 do the exact same thing. 900 is the way to go.
One thing I've found very effective is the drift mode on the fanatec. It's not so much of a drift mode, as it is an emulator of power steering. Sim steering without drift mode on is not realistic at all. It just takes way too much force to countersteer without drift mode, and you need quite a bit of countersteering to use sim steering. Also, linearity at 10 really helps with responsiveness near the center of the wheel, something which forza lacks big time.

I use sim steering, fanatec gt2 btw.
Sen 900
FF 100
Sho 100
ABS 70
DRI 3
Lin 10
Dea 0
Spr 0
Dpr 0
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How do you have the in game FFB set? I got a tip to leave the wheel at 100% FF and adjust the game to my liking. With both the CSR and the game set to 100% FFB, I feel as if I need to stand up and grab a cheater bar in order to turn the wheel.

I also have to try your settings out. The linearity alone sounds interesting. 👍
 
In game I think I'm running 65% strength.
Front wheel drive cars are the heaviest.
When calibrating your strength Try a FWD car. Set it up so that's not to harsh for you.
RWD cars will feel different. A nice touch I might add.

Personally I'm using 540 degrees with 20 linearity. This gives me a near as dammit 1 to 1 ratio.

To the horror of the realists I suppose.
 
Spagetti69
In game I think I'm running 65% strength.
Front wheel drive cars are the heaviest.
When calibrating your strength Try a FWD car. Set it up so that's not to harsh for you.
RWD cars will feel different. A nice touch I might add.

Personally I'm using 540 degrees with 20 linearity. This gives me a near as dammit 1 to 1 ratio.

To the horror of the realists I suppose.
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:lol: Your saying It will give you a better steering feel from the 900? I really want to fix my personal issue with FM4. I will try this tonight!
 
t.o.
Way to knock something without giving it a try fellas

Try OFF and see for yourselves.
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No I will try tonight I am really annoyed at the 900 degrees TO. Feels so weird to me I will let you know. Sorry If I come off like that.
 
t.o.
Way to knock something without giving it a try fellas

Try OFF and see for yourselves.
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Wasn't trying to knock anything, I just don't get buying a wheel with 900 degrees of rotation, for a "simulation" based driving game, and not using it to its full potential. If thats the case I would've stuck with my MS wheel, which I hated.
 
jdmking13
No I will try tonight I am really annoyed at the 900 degrees TO. Feels so weird to me I will let you know. Sorry If I come off like that.
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My bad, just read like that to me for some reason

ShawtyoneR
Wasn't trying to knock anything, I just don't get buying a wheel with 900 degrees of rotation, for a "simulation" based driving game, and not using it to its full potential. If thats the case I would've stuck with my MS wheel, which I hated.
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900 degrees in this game is great for a parking simulation but when driving it just doesn't mesh to real life. When I'm at speed I don't have to turn my wheel anywhere near as much as with 900 degrees in the game. OFF seems right on point with my everyday driving.

Weird fact: In real life I can't drive with both hands on the wheel. It's just the most unnatural thing to me in the world and feels like I can't control the car well. I drive with my left hand. In this game I can drive with one hand but I damn sure can't RACE with one. I need both on the wheel and it feels as natural as anything. That's so weird.
 
Hey, I use a Fanatec CSR Elite (wheel, pedals & h-pattern/sequential). From the begining I was using Sim Steering and couldn't understand why things just felt over the top.

I looked up what people were using and found a few people saying that Normal steering is better to use with this particular steering wheel because the wheel itself is already simulating things for you.

So putting the game on Simulation just doubles everything in the wheel. Maybe this is only with the Elite? It's also much better for drifting ;). It's still not easy and you won't be getting out of a tank slapper but it feel's real and it's great.

Check out this link to view my setup and all my wheel settings:
http://ozfm.darkbb.com/t3185-my-elite-setup-not-so-elite-p
 
D3FCTV
Hey, I use a Fanatec CSR Elite (wheel, pedals & h-pattern/sequential). From the begining I was using Sim Steering and couldn't understand why things just felt over the top.

I looked up what people were using and found a few people saying that Normal steering is better to use with this particular steering wheel because the wheel itself is already simulating things for you.

So putting the game on Simulation just doubles everything in the wheel. Maybe this is only with the Elite? It's also much better for drifting ;). It's still not easy and you won't be getting out of a tank slapper but it feel's real and it's great.

Check out this link to view my setup and all my wheel settings:
http://ozfm.darkbb.com/t3185-my-elite-setup-not-so-elite-p
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It's not just the Elite. I switched it on last night for the basic CSR and I thought the wheel was hyperactive. If my WRX did the same thing that the wheel did in Sim Steering mode, I would have taken it back to the Subaru dealer and demanded a refund.

I didn't plug Goshin's settings in yet (Didn't write them down) so I am going to see how the wheel behaves with his settings.
 


Skip to 1:30 and again to 3:50. This is how I expect the wheel to react when I oversteer, and thats exactly what happens with a wheel using 900 degrees of rotation in FM4. That will not happen with a wheel using 270 degrees of rotation, therefore, for me, it's not worth it. Whether it seems hard or not, is up to the person playing.

In real life, we aren't using that much steering to control our cars, so in game, the second we have to, we automatically think, hey this is not like real life because I don't normally use that much steering to control the car. But in real life, we aren't throwing our cars around corners like we do in game, so mentally and physically we aren't prepared for it. A friend of mine just bought his GT2 wheel, and kept asking me if I use 900 degrees, because for him, he just couldn't handle it since he was so used to using 270 with his old MS wheel. I was the same, but after a while, I began to learn and understand how to work it, and now that I have, 900 is the only way I play.
 
I set my wheel up with 4 settings, these are the degrees:

Road - 900
Drift - 720
Race - 540
F1 (F1 2011) - 240

I think thats what i put them @ and this is for pure realism as i read up on the degrees of rotation certain cars have so my settings are quite particular. I also use auto-clutch when using flappy paddle and sequential with cluth for DTM/V8 supercars/any other race cars that use that.

It doesn't get any more real then that i reckon ;-)
 

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