DTM Tournament - 34 Races until March 2007! - No Spaces.

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Setting the car to the track... one of the reasons to run in GT mode...

adjusting the transmission so that you achieve red line at the end of the longest straight, not half way down. Which will happen since we are unable to adjustl

adjust the suspension to remove oversteer/understeer, bouncing over curbs because most cars in GT are way over sprung (bound/rebound), camber and toe adjustments to get the car to turn better. Stuff along that line.

My main concern is going to be the trany. Red line before the end of the longest straight. But if we are all going to have to suffer with engine fall off down the straight, then I guess it'll be fair to everyone. I haven't tested all the cars, so am taking it at face value that they all peg out around the same mph/kph, thus giving no one an advantage.

Like I said, I'm fine with all this, so long as there are no advantages to any one make over another.

J.R.
 
Nah, DTM cars can reach 180Mph before max out.
 
Seems Arcade mode would be much simpler since there is no tuning allowed. Instead of having to add up your laps (which means stopping every lap to write them down) in Arcade you can set the number of laps to whatever you want. Just my feelings, I'll go along with whatever the rules are.
 
Wow, this looks like something I'd defintiely be interested in. My only problem, is that I'm only positive I'll be able to run until the middle of September, then I'm off to school. And don't know whether or not I'll bring or have a TV & PS2.

Wonder if I could go on a provisional basis or anything? I dunno, it's a shame I won't be able to consistantly participate, this series looks great.
 
Don't mean to rock the boat here, but...

I agree with Drew, in that Arcade would make more sense. One of the main reasons to run in GT mode is to tune the car. If we aren't going to be able to tune it, why run GT ?

Also, in arcade, we could adjust the tranny to meet the track conditions, ie. hilly tracks require a lower power setting... flat and long straights require a higher setting to keep the engine from dogging before the end.

I can understand not tweaking the car, but not the tranny ? I'm thinking that even in JGTC and WRS arcade mode, we were able to adjust the "power" settings, which is nothing more than the gearing. It doesn't change the performance of the motor or suspension, just allows the car to be run accordingly to the track that is being run.

If the series is to be run in GT, with no tweaking of anything, I'll still be there, trying as hard as I can every week. Just trying to stop the "b**ching" before it starts, and trust me, with any trany tweaks, they'll be some noise :)

Just my .03 cents worth -
J.R.
 
Yep I'd have to agree with you guys. Arcade mode would simplify things on this matter.

At least then we could even the P/W ratio's out a bit better.
 
Good point SuperT, and even in Arcade mode there's alot of testing to get all cars equal. The last DTM series I was in the Alfa was eventually scrapped cause it just could not compete with the others.
 
If you guys run it in arcade mode, how are we going to allow the 2.0L cars turbos??? I don't think you can alter the settings enough in arcade to make up the difference. Maybe we should split the cars up into a 2.0L 4 Cylinder class and a 4.5L V8 Class??? That way we could run it in arcade mode and keep it fair. Thoughts???
Danisfast
 
Oldphart and Drew22 and SuperT told everything that I think about this problem,George.Your job will be simplier,the joy of racing still remains the same too and nothing else happens.We are able to set the power of those two cars (Alfa and Mercedes 190) to the required value,can change the allowed settings,ASM & TCS.Can set the required number of laps of the races and everything is clear about the settings: it is stock.
Simply,isn't it?
But don't misunderstand us,we only try to help your job,George.
 
You're right Danisfast, that's exactly why the Alfa was dropped in the other DTM series.
 
Yeah soz George, look what I've written is only an idea. Its a great tourney and you can expect my alligance for as long as I am able to give it, anything I've written is only ideas or comments and I'll be looking forward to great tourney whatever happens. Plus I'm in an Astra!!! A VAUXHALL ASTRA!!!
Apologies again for any intrusions,
Danisfast
 
im in ill take the Alfa Romeo 155 Touring Car it owuld be nice though if you edited the first post so the rules are more clearly definded (i.e. no tuning at all as far as setups go?,race and qualifications are done on the same day?,and which mode are we running in (seeing as it is being debated above))im in no matter what i would just like further calrification(spelling??) on these rules
 
I'd already messed with the tuning of my CLK, as I used it to run in an Endurance race. Should I re-acquire it?
 
Personally, i'd prefer if we did the races in GT Mode and could tweak the settings, but whatever you decide George will be fine 👍
 
Arcade mode it is, expect a pm from me soon.
 
arcade - bummer, but well it's up to the steward i guess.
about the merc evo's - maybe make them attractive by letting it have more power or less weight than the others.
if you want to make the number of teams bigger you could consider adding some jgtc's with comparable ptw's.
just a hint. since it's such a longtime challenge, people might withdraw and you would't want a bleedout.
 
Well, suppose I could, but, the first race is coming closer, and the DTM teams are'nt even full yet.

Plus, I don't want to confuse everybody (even) more.
 
thought id just give a quick word of advice... in all seriousness the 2 older cars, (Alfa and Merc Evo) just are not competitative when compared to the newer DTM cars, even in arcade mode when tuned appropriately, as was realised in the 2 previous DTM series' ran on GTP.

Now i dont want to intrude (or make out as im an ass**** or being rude or anything) but to make a competitive series, id say ditch those 2 cars, and allow/open another spot avaliable in each of the newer/other teams.

Again i dont want to come across as some random bastard, but just an observation i have come across during the previous 2 series.
 
Thats been sorted, since the races are on Arcade Mode, the Alfa Romeo and Mercedes EVO will get power boosts (Alfa 11% Mercedes 19%).
 
honestly i wouldnt mind swapping my old clk for a jgtc car, they are more like the dtm cars than you think, but your the steward, and this isnt a jgtc vs dtm series, but i do hope gt5 has more dtm cars.
 
Sorry, DTM only, the CLK is good anyway :)
 
The races are in arcade mode, right? No tuning allowed, right? Only the 2.0L cars get power upgrades, right? Racing Medium tires only, right? Do you average the lap times of the race or do you submit them all?
 
Time taken to complete the number of laps.

Other than that, your right.
 
George Morley
Time taken to complete the number of laps.

Other than that, your right.
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OK. :D
 
I'd like to withdraw my entry in the series, as I probably won't have my ps2 at university, at least for the first semester.
 
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I'd like to withdraw my entry in the series, as I probably won't have my ps2 at university, at least for the first semester.
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Oh man....that sucks! :ouch:

How longs the first semester?
 
SuperT
Oh man....that sucks! :ouch:

How longs the first semester?
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It goes from 22 August until 15 December.

I might show up and run as a privateer (rules permitting) later on, but it looks like I'll miss at least half the season.
 
Well at least Six String was here to take his space. Yes Six String, you can have his space :)
 
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It goes from 22 August until 15 December.

I might show up and run as a privateer (rules permitting) later on, but it looks like I'll miss at least half the season.
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Yeah you're in the same spot that I am. Can't be assured a PS2 & don't want to have a full committment.

George, is there any way that we could somehow run on a provisional basis or anything? Or that anyone who isn't going away to school can do a race here or there?

As for me, I'm leaving for college Sept. 14th.
 
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