Duplicating cars with backup game data?

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I have a Mini looking for a X1 to trade...

Its interesting how many users call others cheater! Why do you bother? I don´t care if you have 1 X1 or 10. Only thing that goes down is the trading. Online is also not effected because you can set all aids off and the crash kids will destroy them selfs in the first corner.

GT is like always a Game that is meant to play for years and thats the point! People this days think they need the best car 14 days after the release! Hell this game is not out for a month and you start to Grind? why? Why do you hurry so much? you have years to bye all the cars and reach level 50!
And now with all the cheats you will end up after 3 month and think this game is boring because you have everything.
 
Hugo__Stiglets
Jay, you're confused...you don't have to own the car, you just need to have someone send it to you. You're not copying the car, the guy sending you the car is making a copy of it...put the beer down it is too early to be drunk
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Ahhh!

So this COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS all the posts above that say this patch will kill trading?

Not to worry guys. We should all just sit around being bored waiting for
one muppet to work his ass off and get all the best cars for us.
Then he can trade to a few of us, we'll do the same, and then everyone will win.

I bought GT5 to have fun.
You could say that I've got my cake, and I'm gonna eat it however I want.
And I'm not sharing the iced topping with anyone.


Now where'd I put my scotch. :dopey:
 
Smoothherb
And now with all the cheats you will end up after 3 month and think this game is boring because you have everything.
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And this affects you how??? Why do you and so many others care so much whether others play this game for a day or a decade?

If it gives you a sense of pride to do everything the hardest possible way, then have at it.

And if you don't want to use a particular exploit, why even bother reading the threads about it, much less waste valuable game time commenting on it?
 
s2k2k3
And this affects you how??? Why do you and so many others care so much whether others play this game for a day or a decade?

If it gives you a sense of pride to do everything the hardest possible way, then have at it.

And if you don't want to use a particular exploit, why even bother reading the threads about it, much less waste valuable game time commenting on it?
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+1 👍

I'm off to a more constructive thread before someone tries to sue me for ruining thier gameplay.
 
s2k2k3
And this affects you how??? Why do you and so many others care so much whether others play this game for a day or a decade?

If it gives you a sense of pride to do everything the hardest possible way, then have at it.

And if you don't want to use a particular exploit, why even bother reading the threads about it, much less waste valuable game time commenting on it?
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I don´t care I just wanted to say! It don´t give me pride it gives me fun! Its scary to say thinks like pride in combination with a game isn´t it?

It´s funny to read all the pros and cons and whining stuff. I love this forum this because I hang around here and read.
 
There is a real easy fix to this.

The game data auto saves right as you trade any cars so that the new data without the car overrides any previous save.

That way when you try to go back, the old car is no longer in your account.
 
I'm tired of racing Bobs and going around Indy (almost). I'm glad I got this so I could make money fast and get back to driving for fun.
 
pumaATTACK
There is a real easy fix to this.

The game data auto saves right as you trade any cars so that the new data without the car overrides any previous save.

That way when you try to go back, the old car is no longer in your account.
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Except you're reloading your backup save, where you didn't make the trade. Thats why the exploit works.
 
freedomweasel
Except you're reloading your backup save, where you didn't make the trade. Thats why the exploit works.
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I mean that any time you trade a car, the backup data also saves.

Trading is not a huge issue for most of the game, so if you have a back up account to keep your file in case of PS3 crashing then this would not affect you.

It would just stop any exploits. You would still be able to loan cars to friends, just not clone them.


In addition, you could still save data and go back to it later if yuo wanted to not trade any cars. You do not have to "trade" any cars to win in GT5.
 
Guys, where is the big deal?

Seriously, prior to 1.05 we were already able to gift cars without losing them. Simply turn off the PS3 right after clicking the gift OK button. Turn on your PS3 and voila, your gifted car is still in your garage.

Bottom line, nothing changed. It is only more hardware friendly now.
 
And expensive cars are still unable to be sold... if you're doing it yourself, all you're doing is making so you dont have to blow 1,000,000 on chassis and engine rebuilds
 
carlosy
Guys, where is the big deal?

Seriously, prior to 1.05 we were already able to gift cars without losing them. Simply turn off the PS3 right after clicking the gift OK button. Turn on your PS3 and voila, your gifted car is still in your garage.

Bottom line, nothing changed. It is only more hardware friendly now.
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Good point but you also ran the risk of mistiming it and corrupting your save data if you were even a second late and it started to save. Cause you do not have a ton of time before send it and the auto save.
 
Jay.
Ahhh!

So this COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS all the posts above that say this patch will kill trading?
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It kills trading completely as all the cars have the same value, a slot to send them in mail...trading is dead...dupping is alive and doing well...I have more than 10 people queued for me to send them the X1
 
Well, just out of curiosity, I made a spare PSN acct., and I had another Idea. When you make the birthday.. make it for 1966 or 1969 and maye you could get one of the 20 million CR cars.

My main goal for this was to test and see if you could buy cars without losing your money, and the answer is "yes".

- Make a spare PSN account.
- start GT5 and make a profile on the dupe acct.
- copy your gamesave from the main account to a flash drive or card reader
- log into your main acct
- buy an car you want then gift it to the spare acct
- quit game and copy the gamesave from the card reader or flash drive to the PS3 (which will prompt you that it's the same file name and will allow you to overwrite the one on the PS3)
- Log in the dupe acct and recieve and gift the car back to the main acct
- log in the main acct and recieve your car and you'll have the credits you had before you bought it

Useful b/c i know i've spent countless Cr tuning a car i hate for a certain event only to never use it again, nor sell it back b/c it oly offers you peanuts for it. Good way to save Cr for the cars you WANT and not the cars youre required to purchase for a certain race.
 
pumaATTACK
I mean that any time you trade a car, the backup data also saves.

Trading is not a huge issue for most of the game, so if you have a back up account to keep your file in case of PS3 crashing then this would not affect you.

It would just stop any exploits. You would still be able to loan cars to friends, just not clone them.


In addition, you could still save data and go back to it later if yuo wanted to not trade any cars. You do not have to "trade" any cars to win in GT5.
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Then you'd have to keep your external drive or flash drive plugged in all the time. That doesn't really work. Further, and more importantly, if you corrupt your save, your backup save would be corrupt too. This would defeat the entire purpose of backing up your save.

There are better ways of fixing it. People have suggested using unique car IDs that through up flags if you have 2 of the same ID. I'm sure they could also implement some sort of online method utilizing your game log. It effects no one in anyway at all if you're not playing online, so if you can dupe cars offline, no big deal.
 
Quick question from a first time poster. My mate is coming to stay with his parents over the Christmas break, originally he was going to cart his PS3 up with him.

Does this update mean he can backup to USB, setup an account on his brother's PS3 using his PSN account and upload his save.

I only ask because we have recently started playing online with some friends (i know late to the party) and it would be good not to have to start from scratch garage wise.
 
In today's society, people want to do what they want to do, want what they want when they want it. No one can tell them if it's right or wrong. The response to that is..."why do you care what I do?"

Heck, with this sense of (entitlement) I wouldn't be surprised if some people on here felt that the X1,FGT, and the Minolta should've been sitting waiting in their garage once they first played the game.

The internet has officially killed video-games as we know it.
 
Mr.60trim
In today's society, people want to do what they want to do, want what they want when they want it. No one can tell them if it's right or wrong. The response to that is..."why do you care what I do?"

Heck, with this sense of (entitlement) I wouldn't be surprised if some people on here felt that the X1,FGT, and the Minolta should've been sitting waiting in their garage once they first played the game.

The internet has officially killed video-games as we know it.
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Some of this stems from GT trying to do two separate things. It wants to be a simulator and a game. A game has unlockables and levels and the like, to show progress. A sim doesn't need these sorts of things.

I really don't like having to unlock tracks, regardless of how easy or hard it is to get them, I really don't think unlocking the Ring is a good idea for sim. For a game it might be fine, but not for a sim. I bought GT so I could drive laps on my favorite tracks in my favorite cars. I'm not going to dup cars because it honestly seems like too much trouble for what it's worth, but I really can't say I blame someone who does.

Just because people want a different kind of game doesn't make yours or theirs any better or worse. They're attitude may me "entitled" but yours seems to be a bit smug and arrogant.
 
Mr.60trim
In today's society, people want to do what they want to do, want what they want when they want it. No one can tell them if it's right or wrong. The response to that is..."why do you care what I do?"

Heck, with this sense of (entitlement) I wouldn't be surprised if some people on here felt that the X1,FGT, and the Minolta should've been sitting waiting in their garage once they first played the game.

The internet has officially killed video-games as we know it.
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Redundancy = fun for you?

I find racing the same race with the same car 100 time (Ford GT LM Race Car @ Indy for 5 laps) to pay for an overpriced F1 car to be a huge time sink, when This would allow people like me who cant live within 5 feet of their console to obtain multiple 10-20 million Cr cars due to real life endeavors, such as:

Employment
Religion
Family needs
Exercise
Human Interaction
 
freedomweasel
Some of this stems from GT trying to do two separate things. It wants to be a simulator and a game. A game has unlockables and levels and the like, to show progress. A sim doesn't need these sorts of things.

I really don't like having to unlock tracks, regardless of how easy or hard it is to get them, I really don't think unlocking the Ring is a good idea for sim. For a game it might be fine, but not for a sim. I bought GT so I could drive laps on my favorite tracks in my favorite cars. I'm not going to dup cars because it honestly seems like too much trouble for what it's worth, but I really can't say I blame someone who does.

Just because people want a different kind of game doesn't make yours or theirs any better or worse. They're attitude may me "entitled" but yours seems to be a bit smug and arrogant.
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NastyFireman
Redundancy = fun for you?

I find racing the same race with the same car 100 time (Ford GT LM Race Car @ Indy for 5 laps) to pay for an overpriced F1 car to be a huge time sink, when This would allow people like me who cant live within 5 feet of their console to obtain multiple 10-20 million Cr cars due to real life endeavors, such as:

Employment
Religion
Family needs
Exercise
Human Interaction
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I respect both of your opinions. I agree. This is just a game, nothing to be taking as priority number 1.

However, you have a group of folks who use these exploits for their OWN personal pleasure (no-trade situations). Then you have another group who use these exploits specifically for trading, and online racing domination. I have a problem with the latter. I don't care if you use the exploits to obtain billions of cars over and over again b/c you want to keep/own them. It's when you over-populate these counterfeit cars to what should be a fair online bargaining table and flood the market, that's when you start taking the fun out of the game for EVERYONE (both exploiters and grinders).
 
If anyone's willing to trade me a X1 before I deploy to Iraq in 2 weeks it would be cool, I'm close to 30 but I don't know if I'll make it or not. If you have one to trade my PSN is Eucharist08 just add me. I have a few cars that are decent that I would give for one.

Thanks TJ.
 
Mr.60trim
It's when you over-populate these counterfeit cars to what should be a fair online bargaining table and flood the market, that's when you start taking the fun out of the game for EVERYONE (both exploiters and grinders).
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As opposed to paying $300 for the game and getting 6 race cars from the get go?...

Why should people who have more money get the better cars in this game? The online "fairness" was broken from day one.

Don't like it? Introduce restrictions to your races and you'll be fine.
 
I'm an adult, work 60 plus hours a week and earned everything on GT5. At level 27. To each thier own, just saying it can be done and it's not a grind doing it. It's racing. Maybe it's a younger generation thing. Instant gratification. Lol I'm getting old. I remember my grandfather telling me it feels better to earn it then having it given to you. When I was a kid I disagreed with him. Now I'm 41 and he was right. Let's just hope this is just a video game way of thinking and not real life or some people are in for a rude awakening.

andrez004
Man I hope this works. Legit players can just still play legit, but for me having my favorite cars to race with my friends online is what this game is all about. I hate the gt5 grind, and I would download a 100% save game in a heartbeat if it meant I could easily drive all my favorite JDM cars. Most adults just don't have the time to spend hours a day to grind so that in a half year they might have a fraction of the cars they want. The only thing I could really see this hurting is the trading, but that place looks more like a magic card gathering now a days than a place for car lovers. No offense to people that like magic cards.
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NastyFireman
Redundancy = fun for you?

I find racing the same race with the same car 100 time (Ford GT LM Race Car @ Indy for 5 laps) to pay for an overpriced F1 car to be a huge time sink, when This would allow people like me who cant live within 5 feet of their console to obtain multiple 10-20 million Cr cars due to real life endeavors, such as:

Employment
Religion
Family needs
Exercise
Human Interaction
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Solution- Don't buy the car.
 
shinbone
Solution- Don't buy the car.
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Yeah.... what exactly is that a solution to, when the goal of the game is to complete races and collect cars? I've finished 95% of the game as of now in a legitament manner... the only thing left to do is collect cars and do multiple 9 hour endurance races so i can unlock the 24 hour races that i'll never be able to do.

I feel like i've pretty much finished any and all reasonable competition the game was designed to deliver, and now if i want the Toyota GT ONE by buying it, rather than doing a 24 hour race, or racing the same 5 lap race for 8 hours straight to get it, i think i'll just copy a save file and send it to myself.

Thanks for trying to press that I have some sort of moral obligation to earn a plethra of digital automobiles by way of dedicating hundreds of hours of racing the SAME track, with the same car to obtain money in an imaginary moral fashon.

Thanks for trying though.
 

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