e36 M3

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Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for over a year now but this is my first post... Anywho...

What are your opinions on the e36 BMW M3, the 3.2 version? The car is jet black, 96,000 miles, HK sound system, all maintanence files... For $15,000.

I have always drooled over the M3s, but whenever I go to a BMW forum, all I get is biased information, so I was hoping you all might provide something different... Thanks in advance.
 
That price is not bad at all,if your got all of the service records on the car.One thing you must have and know,is that this car was taken care of.
My brother has a 98 jet black m3. I know you guys in the States get the lesser motor,but still 240hp,is a lot of horse power coming from BMW.and with a few mods getting into the 300 club won't be that hard.M3's are great cars to have and they don't require a lot of work so long you take care of servicing them on time.I say go for it,and you will never turn back :)


Base Price, USD/GBP 39,700/38,420
Engine Type 24-valve dohc I6
Curb Weight, lb 3250
Displacement, cc 3152/3201
Horsepower@rpm 240@6000/321*@7400
Torque lb-ft@rpm 258@3250
0-60 mph, sec 5.5
1/4 mile, sec 14.0@98.6/-
60-0 mph, ft 112
Top Speed, mph 140/155
 
I wrote this a few weeks ago for someone else who was looking into an E36 M3.

///M-Spec
Far be it for me to disuade anyone from buying an M3, but as the past owner of two, I feel the need to pass along some advice.

Like with most performance oriented cars, there will be nice, clean, well cared for cars that you will want to bring home. And then there will be the skanks. At this rate, a '95 M3 is an 10-12 year car. That's a lot of opportunities for someone to take care of, or abuse the crap out of the car.

Be very careful.

Tips on buying a '95 M3:

-Get a compression check done. Over-revs were common on the early cars because ham-fisted drivers would pick the wrong gear when the soft tranny mounts flexed enough to move the gates. Uneven compression will show any valve damage due to this. It will also give you a general idea what shape the engine is in.

-Have a good BMW shop spend a lot of time looking at the suspension. Especially the rear. Early M3s are notorious for going through rear shock mounts and toe bushings. Shock mounts aren't bad to replace, but if a worn bushing allows the rear control arms to rub against the metal carrier, this means body damage.

-Make other sure common wear items like the water pump and radiator have already been replaced. Fuel pumps are also problematic on early '95s.

-If the car looks too good to be true, then it probably is. Check for over-spray, bondo and mismatching panels. Each BMW body panel has a VIN number stamped on it. Replacement panels will show a "-R" at the end of the VIN. I once looked into a '95 that had an unbelieveably nice Mugello Red paint job. Upon closer inspection, I discovered it had been wrecked. Twice.

-Follow the same tips you may get for buying any other used performance car. Make sure you get records and books if you can. Do a title search. Have a good mechanic go over it with a fine tooth comb. A GOOD BMW specialist should be able to look at the list I just made and immediately recognize all the troublespots.

-Be weary of "M3 conversions" from 325s or 318s. Done right, they are good cars. Done poorly, they are worthless.

(There's probably a few other little things I forgot.. it's been a while since I made a list like this... I'll add them if I remember any more)

There are lots of good ones out there. You may want to put some money aside to replace the shocks, control arms and anything else in the suspension that has rubber on/in it.

A well maintained M3 is one of life's great pleasures. Good luck on your search.


I had both a '95 3.0 and a '98 3.2. They were both good cars, with the 3.2 being a little quicker due to slightly more aggressive gearing and better torque. The 3.0 had a more linear curve, was smoother reving and sounded better. The 3.2 handled slightly better, stock for stock.

Part of the reason you get fairly 'biased' feedback from owners is because the E36 M3 was simply a damned good car in it's time and it is hard to own one without being well impressed. It truly is one of the best cars of the 90s and even today it's hard to beat it's combination of performance, agility and practicality.

For the record, I loved both of mine. Especially the 3.0.

But whether or not this car is right for you really depends on exactly what you're looking for. As a project car/weekend toy, a high milage 3.2 is a good buy. As a daily driver which may be your only car, I would probably advise that you look into something a little newer, since even a '98 or '99 will have a tired suspension that will need freshening. If I were to get into an E36 M3 again today, I would calculate the cost of replacing all the shocks and bushings in the suspension, as well as putting a little money aside for a new clutch, if it needs one (and it probably will).

If you like BMWs, you should cross shop an early E46 328/323.

If you have any specific questions about either E36 or E46, feel free to ask.


M
 
Ten-year-old car, 96,000 miles, $15000. What a joke. Which transmission does it have and is it a sedan or a coupe?
 
BMW means Brake My Wallet, and when you throw the fancy colored letter M that means Brake My Wallet MORE! But if you have the income to keep it in tip top shape then it's a great car. The M also means stiff ride, but it can take street corners at 90 Mph!!! Everytime you change oil you have to use 7 quarts of Synthetic Oil, and not Syntec Crap. BMW tells you to use Mobil1, Redline, or Amsoil. The Brake Rotors have to be changed for every 2 sets of brakepad change outs. Tires only last 15,000 Miles, but it's a fun car!

Kristof



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Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for over a year now but this is my first post... Anywho...

What are your opinions on the e36 BMW M3, the 3.2 version? The car is jet black, 96,000 miles, HK sound system, all maintanence files... For $15,000.

I have always drooled over the M3s, but whenever I go to a BMW forum, all I get is biased information, so I was hoping you all might provide something different... Thanks in advance.
 
Well that's actually notably better. My personal favorite is the automatic sedan, but most enthusiasts would laugh at me for that. It's still a ripoff regardless of the performance.
 
frestkd
BMW means Brake My Wallet, and when you throw the fancy colored letter M that means Brake My Wallet MORE! But if you have the income to keep it in tip top shape then it's a great car. The M also means stiff ride, but it can take street corners at 90 Mph!!! Everytime you change oil you have to use 7 quarts of Synthetic Oil, and not Syntec Crap. BMW tells you to use Mobil1, Redline, or Amsoil. The Brake Rotors have to be changed for every 2 sets of brakepad change outs. Tires only last 15,000 Miles, but it's a fun car!

Kristof
Wth?
Not all BMWs will "break your wallet." May I add that 3 series even with a PerformancePackage are under $40,000 or that is how it is with a 330Ci Convertible.
 
actionFigure
Also, the price is down to $13,500. I would have to sell my 2000 Camry and then pay the rest out of pocket or with a loan.
Wow!
$13,500?

I found an old late 90's 740iL, 16K miles, for only $7,500 at my local BMW of Dallas (Formerly known as John Roberts BMW).
 

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