Ecclestone wants to abolish points system

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I can see into the future, and I can tell the best year for formula one is still 25 years away. It is the year 2033, and Bernie Ecclestone gets pushed of a boat in Monaco harbour during a party, gets stuck under the boat and drowns!
That ... really isn't funny.
 
I can see into the future, and I can tell the best year for formula one is still 25 years away. It is the year 2033, and Bernie Ecclestone gets pushed of a boat in Monaco harbour during a party, gets stuck under the boat and drowns!

Even if he has changed the sport forever for the worse, that would be horrible for an old man to drown like that!

As for the, 'pointless' system, even if it was a good idea, it would be too radical to implement, seeing as the sport has tallied points for, oh, almost the same amount of years that Bernie Ecclestone has been alive now? 57 years?

But, maybe Stirling Moss would have won a championship (or several) had this system been implemented MUCH earlier. Nigel Mansell's title would have still stayed. And Alan Jones'. Who am I kidding, the changes would have been too great even without probing into the past.
 
As for the, 'pointless' system, even if it was a good idea, it would be too radical to implement, seeing as the sport has tallied points for, oh, almost the same amount of years that Bernie Ecclestone has been alive now? 57 years?

But, maybe Stirling Moss would have won a championship (or several) had this system been implemented MUCH earlier. Nigel Mansell's title would have still stayed. And Alan Jones'. Who am I kidding, the changes would have been too great even without probing into the past.

I don't think the changes really matter much, since I think the strategy would be different depending on the point system.
 
Back then the GDP of a small country wasn't the same as the GDP of a small country...

But the cost is still astronomical today. Back then, you could actually find six buddies, meet in a garage, and plaster some bits and bobs on an old F3000 chassis, and race that thing (see case: AGS). You wouldn't score points, but then again, who did?
F1 had more teams than the grid could support, but these teams where worth nothing. Some of them were just badly engineered, some of them too unreliable, some were so underfunded that they rolled out a new car without testing (something Aguri did, though - but they at least used last year's car as a basis). Unstable, unreliable, sometimes dangerously unsafe, and usually folded after a season or two.

With the 8 points-scoring position there are now, midfield teams actually score points and stay in the sport for a few more seasons, despite rising costs.

A system like this would discourage consistent drivers and encourage kamikazes. If your championship-order is decided by that 12th place you might get, the backmarkers will become desperate, as will the midfield. Suddenly, it won't matter if you finished 7th a few times and scored some points, because another driver who crashes every other race suddenly didn't, and reached 6th position. He can then sit on his arse in 22nd position - he'll still finish ahead in the championship.

Who am I kidding, the changes would have been too great even without probing into the past.

As I said earlier - the last championship to have a result that would've changed was when Ayrton Senna lost it despite winning more. And he died in '94, so that's at least 14 years of the same order. In fact, here is a chart of the last championship years analyzed with the new system. Not that much of a change, essentially. It would, however, punish drivers like Jenson Button, who scored far more points than drivers any non-Ferrari driver - but the lack of a win to his name meant he'd drop three places behind Montoya, Raikkonen and Trulli.

At the same time, however, 2004 would have won the International Award for the Most Boring Sporting Event EVAR. Schumacher's early winning streak meant that the championship was essentially wrapped up before the halfway point, as his closest challenger, win-wise, had just one win to his credit.
 
I dont care. I said that because I hate Ecclestone!

You hate him with reasons, or you hate him like 12 year olds do? Either way, it's silly and immature.
 
You hate him with reasons, or you hate him like 12 year olds do? Either way, it's silly and immature.

I know it's silly and immature, but I've got good reasons to hate him.
 
I know it's silly and immature, but I've got good reasons to hate him.

Yes? Enough to warrant wishing him a terrible, painful death? Name them, please - did he kill your family?
 
Yes? Enough to warrant wishing him a terrible, painful death? Name them, please - did he kill your family?
Oh sorry, I just remembered, I dont hate him, I just dont like him. It's Max Mosley who I wish would get stuck under a boat and drown. I always get the two mixed up.
 
That's not any better!

As for the pointless system (funny name, by the way), I meant that the seasons closer to the 1950s would have changed a bit, however I realized that yes, the order would have been primarily the same from 1994 onwards. (i.e.: Had this system existed in the 1958 season, Stirling Moss would have won, with Tony Brooks second, and Mike Hawthorn would have been tied or swapping places with Peter Collins and Maurice Trintignant, respectively. But then, Fangio would have still won his five titles.)
 
BE can say whatever he wants; F1 is governed by FIA so Max makes the call. His suggestions is just an extreme case to want to put more emphasis on race wins, which can be easily done by varying the points structure.
 
do you think we should maybe set up a petition or something stating a list of things we want to see in/want done to F1, and get everyone to sign it?
 
But would people that have such obscene amounts of currency listen to a website forum? It worked for the Florida Short-Track Driver of the Year Award (we helped Allan Colley win a while back), but Formula One may not see much of a market in us, as well as the strong dictatorial background of the sport to start.
 
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