EG6 Civic Settings/ Demio Sport 03' Touge Settings

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These two settings are a little on the extreme side and were developed on Citti di' Aria city course. The idea behind this was to acheive maximum cornering speed and to minimize understeer in all conditions. The reason that I choose this track is that I believe it is the most brutal track to drive fast on ( it is a slow speed Nurburgring) and if your car handles well there it can handle well anywhere. These two setups are very similar because the two cars are very similar in power and weight as well as traction. Both of these cars were also limited to 200hp or less and limited to a top speed of 125mph (touge 200 class).:)

Touge Civic EG6 Sir-II 95' 200hp:bowdown:

-All modifications were done to Suspension(original), Brakes, Weight, Drivetrain, Icrease Rigidity, Rigidity Refresher, and all Engine mods besides NA tuning or Turbo

Suspension
Spring Rate- FR:11.5 RR:3.5
Ride Height- FR:83 RR:87
Dampers- FR:7 RR:4
Camber- FR:-4.0 RR:-1.0
Toe- FR:0 RR:0
Stabilizers- FR:1 RR:7

Brakes
Balance- FR:6 RR:12

Limited Slip
Initial- FR:10
Accel- FR:40
DeAccel- FR:5

Transmission
1-Raise final to 5.5
2-Lower auto-set to 1
3-Lower final to around 4.750 (125mph)
4-Shorten 5th and 6th gear all the way (use graph)
5-Raise 1st and 2nd gear all the way (use graph)
6-Adjust 4th gear in the middle of third and 5th (use graph)

Tires
FR- R3 (racing medium)
RR- R2 (racing hard)

-No ballast
-No aids
-No Nitrous
-No Downforce

Recorded Times:
Citti di' Aria- 1:40.9 (5 laps)👍
Tskuba Circuit- 1:01.4 (3laps)


Touge Demio Sport 03' 187hp:confused:

-All modifications were done to Suspension, Brakes, Weight, Drivetrain, Icrease Rigidity, and all Engine mods including NA tune-up Stage 2

Suspension
Spring Rate- FR:12.0 RR:3.5
Ride Height- FR:Full Low RR:Full Low+4mm.
Dampers Bound- FR:5 RR:3
Dampers Rebound-FR:10 RR:7
Camber- FR:-4.0 RR:-1.5
Toe- FR:0 RR:0
Stabilizers- FR:1 RR:7

Brakes
Balance- FR:6 RR:12

Limited Slip
Initial- FR:10
Accel- FR:40
DeAccel- FR:5

Transmission
1-Raise final to Highest number
2-Lower auto-set to 1
3-Lower final to around 4.800 (120mph)
4-Shorten 5th and 6th gear all the way (use graph)
5-Raise 1st and 2nd gear all the way (use graph)
6-Adjust 4th gear in the middle of third and 5th (use graph)

Tires
FR- R3 (racing medium)
RR- R2 (racing hard)

-No ballast
-No aids
-No Nitrous
-No Downforce

Recorded Times:
Citti di' Aria- 1:42.0 (5 laps)👍
Tskuba Circuit- 1:01.9 (3laps)


So if anybody willing could try out these settings and give me some feedback or umm.. constructive criticism:lol: regarding the setups it would be greatly appriciated and I encourage you to try these setups on any track!:cheers:

UPDATE: Starlet Glanza V, Miata J-Spec, and Honda FIT setups on the way!
 
I wonder how your car handle :). Can you describe how your car handle? Are there any handling problem left?

Do tire stagger really necessary?

What if you trade it with lower front camber, maybe 1.0 or 2.0?

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Transmission
1-Raise final to Highest number
2-Lower auto-set to 1
3-Lower final to around 4.800 (120mph)
4-Shorten 5th and 6th gear all the way (use graph)
5-Raise 1st and 2nd gear all the way (use graph)
6-Adjust 4th gear in the middle of third and 5th (use graph)
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If wheelspin is not a problem I usually use lowest final drive at the 3rd step. Give lighter flywheel feel.
 
The handling of the two cars are very neutral and depending on how you drive them they will oversteer or understeer. The only thing I could use at this point to make the cars better for my driving style would be more overall conering speed:banghead: . The staggered tires help a little bit, but you have to be on your toes to keep the rear in check sometimes. These setups are not for novice drivers:censored: . The front camber was adjusted high to keep cornering speed high mid corner where FF's normally understeer. Also the transmission settings I believe are perfect and if I did change the final I fear wheelspin would be a problem. Like I said overall cornering speed is what I need most right now. If you could try the setup of one of these cars that would be very helpful!💡

Thanks for the advice!:)
 
I see.

For increasing overall cornering speed I would try increasing overall spring rate to an even higher value, maybe to the max. If bouncing start to occur/increase and disturb handling, I will reduce the overall damper value.

I really want to try your car when I have a chance, but my chance playing GT4 is a bit low right now.
 
I will give it a shot!:)

Also I have noticed that I am losing alot of time to one my other Touge 200 project cars (Miata J-spec 90') coming out of the tighter corner.:grumpy: I know a FF is limited to what it can do to put power down, but is there any settings that can help with corner exit speed and traction.💡

Thanks in advance for advice!

I hope you get a chance to try one of the cars out sucahyo!
 
Soften the front values a bit and if you lose traction, try making the few first few gears bit longer, or change the setup of the differential.. but you already know this, don't you? ;)
 
I changed the setup of the diff and was able to shave off a half second on that pesky FR!

Increasing the overall spring rates made the car a death trap for virtual driver guy!:lol:

I also already tried softening the front values, but it seemed that more wheelspin was accumulated under hard cornering.

Thanks for having such cofidence in me Leo!:cheers:
 
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I also already tried softening the front values, but it seemed that more wheelspin was accumulated under hard cornering.

Thanks for having such cofidence in me Leo!:cheers:
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hmm.. just for fun, try my suspension setup that I gave to you. if you haven't tried it yet, I can tell you that it does not suffer from excessive wheelspin.
 
One step ahead of ya!👍 Tried it out already and was faster in some parts of tracks and slower in others!:banghead: Ended up on average a couple tenths slower. Wheelspin was reduced. Working on a setup combining the two!

This track is one tough cookie!

BTW: Results were similar for the ring ( I guess it is just two different tuning concepts! Good setup though. Seemed a little conservative for my taste, or my DS2!:lol:)
 
Nice to hear that you got such encouraging results from this little test.

Conservative setup..:rolleyes: you should had seen my early setups. they would had been pretty radical in your terms too, I believe.. but now I'm older and wiser, and learning small tricks from a professional, so it might look like conservative.. but it also works.

most of the time atleast. :D
 
The same basic suspension setup will work great still. I would recommend to raise the rear spring rate up 2.0 or so though. You will also have to change the final to around 4.4 or 4.5. 👍

UPDATE EG6: Raise the Diff Acceleration to 60 for an extra half-second!

Good Luck!:cool:
 

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