Elevation change and fast corners

santiagomo87

santiagomo87

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Hello all, I just happen to love fast corners with some elevation change, but the only one I can remember from GT5p is the first left turn in Eiger Reverse(how I miss Trial Mountain and El Capitan). Is there any other corner like this in the game?? You can also discuss other corners you like.
 
santiagomo87
Hello all, I just happen to love fast corners with some elevation change, but the only one I can remember from GT5p is the first left turn in Eiger Reverse(how I miss Trial Mountain and El Capitan). Is there any other corner like this in the game?? You can also discuss other corners you like.
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I also love this. I love Eiger Reverse for that reason, so much fun. :)
 
I'm not 100% sure of the corner on Eiger you are referring to, but I would try Dunlop in Suzuka, and maybe 200R in Suzuka with cars that cannot do them flat-out.

The true elevation changing corners in GT5:P are at the end of Fuji in my opinion, though they aren't what I'd call high speed!
 
It's turn number 2 acording to the forum maps, the one just before going into the tunnel. You are so right about fuji, that right handed corner (no. 13) just after the chicane is very tricky. I'd have to try 200R in a really fast car, I thought all cars did it flat out
 
santiagomo87
It's turn number 2 acording to the forum maps, the one just before going into the tunnel. You are so right about fuji, that right handed corner (no. 13) just after the chicane is very tricky. I'd have to try 200R in a really fast car, I thought all cars did it flat out
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It's not about speed, it's about grip and downforce. If you want to experience the best of GT5P's corners, you will need to do it in cars that aren't glued to the track. Doing any corner in the game with S tires or even N tires, while trying to hold race lines and not drifting, will revolutionize the way you think of them, and reveal elevation changes and other quirks you never expected. You start to learn lateral elevation changes, not just longitudinal, so you learn what position across the track surface gives you the most grip to to being camber/off camber.

You will learn to adapt your racing line not so you follow the path of least turning angle, but to maximize the time spent on more favorable camber.
 
Elevation and corners? Try the Esses at Suzuka! Maybe they are not the fastest around, but they do pose a challange, and they are still pretty quick.
 
I agree, the Nurburgring and Laguna Seca are some of the finest examples of elevation change in a course. I look forward to better examples being added to GT5:P, or the full GT5.

One mentioned less frequently is Mosport, in which Corner 2 was ranked as one of the 10 best corners of all time in Car & Driver magazine. And rightfully so. When watching the ALMS race, to see them come flying over that hill - it's taken it flat out - not knowing what was on the other side is an amazing thought. As well as it continues turning while still going downhill. No wonder it causes so many spectacular crashes.
 
Not many fast turns with elevation changes in GT5p's limited selection of tracks, but a lot of the corners a Fuji have challenging elevation changes, even if they are pretty low speed. I never realised how steep turn 1 was till I decided to do a lap backwards one day. You can really use the compression in the hairpin to carry more speed in and get most of the turning done as the car is shoved down hard on its springs. Turn 13 is just horrible, erm, I mean interesting and challenging. No, I mean horrible, you're braking while turning and you have to go so much slower than you expect, it's just so easy to slide well wide of the apex. Thankfully it's not too far to the next corner, so you don't lose much time if you get it a little wrong.

I like 200R at Suzuka in cars where you're almost at the limit, using the extra grip you get from the compression as it turns uphill to tighten the line is very satisfying.

Turn 4 at London forward (the one that brings you into Trafalgar Square) can be interesting too, the track doesn't drop away a whole lot, but with the car unsettled from bouncing across the kerb and the barrier just waiting to eat your car it can be quite exciting.
 
LongbowX
I agree, the Nurburgring and Laguna Seca are some of the finest examples of elevation change in a course. I look forward to better examples being added to GT5:P, or the full GT5.

One mentioned less frequently is Mosport, in which Corner 2 was ranked as one of the 10 best corners of all time in Car & Driver magazine. And rightfully so. When watching the ALMS race, to see them come flying over that hill - it's taken it flat out - not knowing what was on the other side is an amazing thought. As well as it continues turning while still going downhill. No wonder it causes so many spectacular crashes.
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If were going to go into real life tracks, then not another second can go by without someone mentioning Eau Rouge at Spa Francorchamps!
I've always loved the run up to Indianapolis at Circuit de la Sarthe too.
 
Ardius
If were going to go into real life tracks, then not another second can go by without someone mentioning Eau Rouge at Spa Francorchamps!
I've always loved the run up to Indianapolis at Circuit de la Sarthe too.
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Agree Eau Rouge is an amazing piece of track.
The Dipper at Bathurst (Australia) is also incredible, it may be very short but you have to go and see it yourself to appreciate the elevation and camber change, TV can't do it justice.
 
Hmmm... you can talk about the "elevation changes" in GT5P, Suzuka & Fuji! :rolleyes: , OR you could try Ferrari Challenge, which is full of such corners: Spa, Mugello, Mont Tremblant (a beautiful long, downhill, off-camber, sweeping, bumpy turn 👍), Virginia, Infineon. What is more, the FFB in FC gives an unparalleled feel to that kind of cornering, where you can really feel the weight shift & the tires start to struggle for grip.

I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness :crazy:, but any sim racing fan with a PS3 & a FFB wheel should really give Ferrari Challenge a try in the year or so (?) before GT5 shows up...
 
We got to talk a litlle about the GT original tracks.I like the first sector of Grand Valley when you climb up the hill after the first corner and then speeding downhill into heavy braking for the hairpin also a good chance to overtake.
 
santiagomo87
Hello all, I just happen to love fast corners with some elevation change, but the only one I can remember from GT5p is the first left turn in Eiger Reverse(how I miss Trial Mountain and El Capitan). Is there any other corner like this in the game?? You can also discuss other corners you like.
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I remeber that corner. PD really needs better game engine to make 2 or 1 tire LIFT OFF during these conditions...

Even on TOP gear he made a HONDA CIVIC a 3 wheel car.. In GT4 and 5 it's not possible to lift one or 2 tires if you even exceed 2 Gs... only tire lift is when you HIT something or jump over a hill.. :grumpy:
 
Well I am brazilian so it's easy for me to mention Interlagos. Ask any real driver, they will tell you exactly the same thing. I just love Interlagos, a a lot elevations there and you can feel it. Just play F1CE! :P
 
gundalini
Agree Eau Rouge is an amazing piece of track.
The Dipper at Bathurst (Australia) is also incredible, it may be very short but you have to go and see it yourself to appreciate the elevation and camber change, TV can't do it justice.
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👍 Yes TV doesn`t do the track much justice,if you haven`t seen it before it looks awsome but to drive around it at 60km/h in real life and to realise just how steep it really is, is just mind blowing and the fact that people race here for 6 hrs on it is amazing! :crazy: It really needs to be in GT5!
 
Not to mention flying over the top of the mountain! These days the V8 Supercars are doing it pretty much flat out! and there are plenty of elevation changes there!

But in regard to GT5P, I would have to say lately on Daytona Road, coming onto or off the big banks can really sort out your line and how much speed you take into it, if the car is right. Try it in the ZO6! (not on R tyress either!), it can even be dependant on how much throttle you open as you rise the bank upon entering it as the camber can easily turn you around.
There not really difficult corners to be honest but can be fun if you hold that little drift as you go down the straight at 200+ km/h.
 
BroncosXR8
Not to mention flying over the top of the mountain! These days the V8 Supercars are doing it pretty much flat out! and there are plenty of elevation changes there!

But in regard to GT5P, I would have to say lately on Daytona Road, coming onto or off the big banks can really sort out your line and how much speed you take into it, if the car is right. Try it in the ZO6! (not on R tyress either!), it can even be dependant on how much throttle you open as you rise the bank upon entering it as the camber can easily turn you around.
There not really difficult corners to be honest but can be fun if you hold that little drift as you go down the straight at 200+ km/h.
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Oh yeah i`ve come onto either banked section of daytona road sideways or just plain 4 wheel drifting in the Z06,it takes precision with the throttle in that car,lost many a online race or positions because of that 👍
 
Midfield - (reverse) , go through the S turn on a dowhhill grade , through the tunnel , medium right hander , back uphill we go. Great section of track , if taken properly , you put the others farther back in the hole.

Also El Capitan - what else can be said about this , just awesome racing there.
 
Road Atlanta...that track has a huge pucker factor! SPA, Infineon, Mont Tremblant, Watkins Glen and Bathurst are all wonderful tracks with great elevation changes.
 

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