Endurance Race "Parking" Time

[alfredchiwai]

For the endurance race with fixed time, such as 4 hr, 9hr, and 24hr, we can choose not to race to the last minute because we are much faster than the AI in spec A. After racing for enough laps - more than the total laps of the AI racer in the 2nd place, we can "park" the car at the finish line and do any other things. I would suggest we could gather the total laps of the second AI racer for each competition. Is it a good idea? Then, we could choose to have less torture:tup:. GT friends, please help!

The max. laps AI can do:

Nurburgring 4 hour, the AI do 28 laps max (courtesy of TMN Racing)

Tsukuba 9 hour, the AI do 520 laps (sources from a Hong Kong forum, to be cautious, run for 530 laps)

PS: If there already are a list, please give me the link. I can't find it.


Well, after reading the replies, I think we could roughly calculate the "parking time" in the game. Thanks for all your opinions and help
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[Jashmid]

Correct me if I did not understand your point.

I'm assuming you are talking about the the very final lap and a solution to avoid extra time (when time is up and you're half way through your lap). If that's the case, worst case scenario is an extra 8~9 minutes (just about starting a Nurburgring lap in a crap car).

Why should this few minutes matter after 4/9/24 hours of non-stop driving?

EDIT: OK. Having read your post again, I think I understand now. You want to do nothing until lapped AI cars catch up with you. The problem is, you will still have to pass the finish line in the end. You're suggesting we take a break basically (which obviously, can be done at any point during the race). But nobody can tell you how long that break can be, because people use different cars/settings/methods and have different lap times.

 

[Slashzor308]

I get what you mean alfred, as i use this method myself for every time based endurance race. For anybody confused, this is an example:

Race: Tsukuba 9 Hour Endurance
Car: X2010 Red Bull

Now if you know the car/course, with standard auto transmission etc, racing soft tyres, you should be getting laps of around 30-34 seconds, depending on lap traffic.

By around 5 hours, you will have a quite large lead, roughly 3 and a half hours or so.

So, you can then just park the car somewhere out of the way, and let it run for that time, while you go watch tv, do some work, or do the Mrs.

Edit: Also, next time i do the Nurburgring or Tsukuba one i will post here how many laps they do.

 

[StevenDunn99]

Trouble is the variables; what cars are in the field but in particular the weather. I find it pretty easy maths to work out in-race.

 

[Jashmid]

Thanks, Slashzor. I edited my post.

Still, my general assumption is that most people play for fun. Not to finish ASAP and get it over with. Surely, X2010 does the job in Tsukuba (or any other race). But those who are in it for the fun, will probably use a car that is relatively similar to the AI cars.

In the meanwhile, I fully appreciate the fact that implementation of endurance races is incredibly poor and illogical in GT5. This has been discussed many times. Single driver and inability to save progress basically forces people to use overpowered cars to do what you guys are discussing here.

 

[alfredchiwai]

I get what you mean alfred, as i use this method myself for every time based endurance race. For anybody confused, this is an example:

Race: Tsukuba 9 Hour Endurance
Car: X2010 Red Bull

Now if you know the car/course, with standard auto transmission etc, racing soft tyres, you should be getting laps of around 30-34 seconds, depending on lap traffic.

By around 5 hours, you will have a quite large lead, roughly 3 and a half hours or so.

So, you can then just park the car somewhere out of the way, and let it run for that time, while you go watch tv, do some work, or do the Mrs.

Sorry for my poor explanation as well as terrible English. Thanks, Slashzor. This is what I mean. I should have given an concrete example.

 

[alfredchiwai]

Thanks, Slashzor. I edited my post.

Still, my general assumption is that most people play for fun. Not to finish ASAP and get it over with. Surely, X2010 does the job in Tsukuba (or any other race). But those who are in it for the fun, will probably use a car that is relatively similar to the AI cars.

In the meanwhile, I fully appreciate the fact that implementation of endurance races is incredibly poor and illogical in GT5. This has been discussed many times. Single driver and inability to save progress basically forces people to use overpowered cars to do what you guys are discussing here.

Yes, so we could "choose" to have fun or not to race so much.

 

[Slashzor308]

Thanks, Slashzor. I edited my post.

Still, my general assumption is that most people play for fun. Not to finish ASAP and get it over with. Surely, X2010 does the job in Tsukuba (or any other race). But those who are in it for the fun, will probably use a car that is relatively similar to the AI cars.

In the meanwhile, I fully appreciate the fact that implementation of endurance races is incredibly poor and illogical in GT5. This has been discussed many times. Single driver and inability to save progress basically forces people to use overpowered cars to do what you guys are discussing here.

Yeah once you get to the high lvl stage of the 9H and 24H races, doing this becomes almost a must, unless you want your brain to explode lol.

Trouble is the variables; what cars are in the field but in particular the weather. I find it pretty easy maths to work out in-race.

For a start, its honestly just basic maths. E.G - 9h Tsukuba. Do 4 hours worth of racing. check how many laps you are in front (it will appear when the second place driver crosses the finish line), and work it out from there. Their lap times are around 1 minute or something. So its just a basic estimate to know you can go and do something else for a couple hours .

Also, if you get a rainy race, its even better. CPU drivers are HORRIBLE

 

[Slashzor308]

If i remember correctly, i did 29 laps of nurburgring and won by 2 laps after a 1 hour park. I'll re-check this tomorrow.

 

[TMN Racing]

Nurburgring 4 hour, the AI do 28 laps max, thats either the S2000 Turbo or Audi R8 LMS. If you do 28 laps then sit at the start/finish line you will win.

Tsukuba 9 hour the AI do 540 laps max, do 550 in the X1 then park and win.

 

[Slashzor308]

Nurburgring 4 hour, the AI do 28 laps max, thats either the S2000 Turbo or Audi R8 LMS. If you do 28 laps then sit at the start/finish line you will win.

Haha thanks, guess i get to stick to the big boy races =D

 

[Jashmid]

Yes, so we could "choose" to have fun or not to race so much.

Exactly my point. Either torture yourself non-stop for 24hrs, or a little less than that (the way you want to do it), or wait for PD to MAYBE one day release a patch and let us use our trained b-spec drivers or at least save our progress (the way I do it; I'm not touching any endurance race longer than 4hrs).

 

[Slashzor308]

Exactly my point. Either torture yourself non-stop for 24hrs, or a little less than that (the way you want to do it), or wait for PD to MAYBE one day release a patch and let us use our trained b-spec drivers or at least save our progress (the way I do it; I'm not touching any endurance race longer than 4hrs).

That's how i originally thought it might be, i mean its kinda stupid to ask people to grind so many Enduranc Races, especially multiple 24hour A-spec.

This would be a GREAT idea, however capped of course. Say your B-spec driver can do" X - hours" of a "X - hour" race. My personal opinion would be 12hour/12hour.

 

[StevenDunn99]

This would be a GREAT idea, however capped of course. Say your B-spec driver can do" X - hours" of a "X - hour" race. My personal opinion would be 12hour/12hour.

This has been discussed before; allocate the XP according to the number of laps driven per driver, like Bspec currently does.

 

[Jashmid]

That's how i originally thought it might be, i mean its kinda stupid to ask people to grind so many Enduranc Races, especially multiple 24hour A-spec.

This would be a GREAT idea, however capped of course. Say your B-spec driver can do" X - hours" of a "X - hour" race. My personal opinion would be 12hour/12hour.

Or as it is in real life:

Le Mans: Max 4hrs consecutively and 14hrs overall per driver.
Nürburgring: 2 to 4 drivers, max 150mins non-stop per driver, min 2hrs rest between turns.

 

[Slashzor308]

Or as it is in real life:

Le Mans: Max 4hrs consecutively and 14hrs overall per driver.
Nürburgring: 2 to 4 drivers, max 150mins non-stop per driver, min 2hrs rest between turns.

True, but A-spec is still A-spec. Should be optional that you can do 100% if you want, and the A-spec part should be at least half the race or more than B-spec.