Endurance race suggestions

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Hi,

what would you think of having the following endurance races in GT6 with respect to real life races?

24h Le Mans (LMP cars max)
24h Le Mans no chicane (only Group C cars)
24h Nürburgring Nordschleife (GT3 cars max)
24h Daytona (GT2 cars max)
24h Spa (GT3 cars max)
1000km SPA (LMP cars max, WEC race)
1000km Fuji (LMP cars max, WEC race)
1000km Monza (LMP cars max, LMS race a few years ago)
1000km Silverstone (LMP cars max, WEC race)
1000km Nürburgring GP (LMP cars max, LMS race a few years ago)
1000km Suzuka (only SuperGT cars)
500mi Indianapolis (only open wheeler)
4h Tsukuba (only Mazda Roadsters, please no 9h race there!)
4h Nordschleife (GT3 cars max, VLN race)
3h Fuji (only SuperGT cars)
3h Motegi (only Super GT cars)
2h45min Laguna Seca (LMP cars max, ALMS race)
2h45min Willow Springs (LMP cars max, fictional ALMS race)
200km Brands Hatch Indy (only DTM cars)
200km Nürburgring Short (only DTM cars)
1h Le Mans (only historic cars, 50s, 60s, 70s)
Some 1h races on Silverstone, Monza (Blancpain Endurance Series)

And some more shorter races on original tracks, like the Grand Valley 200km ...
 
24 hours of Silverstone (a.k.a. Britcar 24), guess it would have to be GT 2 cars max, though I'm sure Strakka turned up with an LMP 2 one year.
 
If/when they ever get Bathurst in the game, the Bathurst 1000 and Bathurst 12 hours.
 
No! Please good no! No 4h Tsukuba with Mazda Roadster! That's the most boring race I've ever played. Don't get me wrong, I love endurance races, more then those 3 lap normal races but no Tsukuba please.

Actually I've done the 24H Le Mans in GT5 3 times. So far. I'll probably do one more in November.
 
Lord Protector
No! Please good no! No 4h Tsukuba with Mazda Roadster! That's the most boring race I've ever played. Don't get me wrong, I love endurance races, more then those 3 lap normal races but no Tsukuba please.
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I agree with this. The 9 hour enduro on Tsukuba was so overkill, but even the 4 hour endurance Roadster race was terribly boring and by far the worst enduro. Was the longest 4 hours of any endurance race I've done. But really, if they want to include a roadster 4 hours event, please pick another track. Endurance races on Tsukuba are just terribly boring. The same short lap over and over and over... Gets so boring on such a small track and that 9 hour event is just too much.

On the other end, Le Mans and Nurburgring are so much more interesting cause there's so much variation in the long laps that those races become so fun. A 24 hour Spa race would be very fun as well. I just wish the Nurburgring 24h was limited to GT3 cars though, but I guess GT5 is a bit limited on premium GT3 cars anyway. Same thing for premium Le Mans cars as well though, but we do have the 908, R10, 787B and now the XJR9 to choose from at least. I chose the 908 for Le Mans and I'm now using the 787B on Nurburgring. Hopefully GT6 adds more than just the R18.
 
I'd rather do 4 hours on Tsukuba than 24 hours on any track.

I think the desired number and selection of endurance races depends heavily on how they will be set up. For example, I wouldn't want a 24 hour Spa race if I had to do it all by myself, but I'd be fine with it if I could split time with my B-spec drivers.
 
I hope they will include the B-spec feature for endurance races too. I'm fine in doing them by myself (of course with save function), but it would be so much more intense if you could play it with a B-spec that is close to your level of speed.

I also hope PD will restrict more endurance races, especially the longer races to a maximum class or PP you can choose a car from or will at least adapt the AI to the car you use. So for example if I drive the Nordschleife with a GT3 the AI also will drive with GT3 or equal cars.

For me the 4h roadster race was fun. I know the track gets boring with time because of the track length but if you choose a suitable car for this race, not to overpowered, you can have some really exciting racing.

All in all I hope PD will include much more races to the endurance part of GT6 compared to GT5. They have so many fantastic possibilities because of their large range of tracks included that they hopefully won't miss on this part of the game!
 
That's another thing, yes A-spec should be merged along with B-Spec. Just like GT4. But no 3x fast forward, let's keep it real ok?
 
More 30 minutes - 1 hour races. Less 4h+ races. That said, many 10 minute A-Spec races felt too long with the terrible AI. So again, they should fix the AI.

Lord Protector
That's another thing, yes A-spec should be merged along with B-Spec. Just like GT4. But no 3x fast forward, let's keep it real ok?
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3x Fast Forward was the only reason I used B-Spec in GT4. Otherwise it isn't stimulating, and a waste of electricity.
 
I would like to see more series races like the 1000mis that was in GT4.

While it wasn't a listed endurance race, it was borderline in that category.

It was a great change of pace, that I really enjoyed.

BTW, as far as I'm concerned they can dump anything more than 4hrs at Tsukuba.
 
Sure, please no fast forward feature as this takes the immersion out of the races. Also some driving time restrictions would be cool, like in Le Mans you are only allowed to drive a maximum of 4h in one go and then your partner has to drive at least one stint.

I can understand some people don't want longer races, but for me it's important to have them in the game. So if you don't like them, don't do them and for those of us who like them, they can enjoy a great racing experience only a handful of games can deliver.

One other thought that came me in mind, why not group these races into championships with championship points for every round? Maybe prototype, GT or sportscar endurance championships with different kind of races (shorter and longer ones) and the highlight of these races are the 24h races in between or at the end of the championship. Also you can place the SuperGT or DTM races there with more and longer races, because they were a joke in GT5.
 
SagarisGTB
I'd rather do 4 hours on Tsukuba than 24 hours on any track.

I think the desired number and selection of endurance races depends heavily on how they will be set up. For example, I wouldn't want a 24 hour Spa race if I had to do it all by myself, but I'd be fine with it if I could split time with my B-spec drivers.
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I like that when you could start a race do a few laps or a few hours and then let your b driver go while you sleep or eat or do something life worthy.
 
The only Enduros should be tracks with Time change. That doesn't mean only day/night but, the sun should not be at noon for 6hours of the race.
 
What about the Bathurst 1000 km? Even Americans know that's the best race of the year.
 
CarCzar
What about the Bathurst 1000 km? Even Americans know that's the best race of the year.
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Bathurst is not on the confirmed tracks list and so I didn't take it on my list.
It's a great race but the best race of the year... I doubt it!
For me personally Le Mans and Nürburgring are untouchable the best ones.
But they are different kind of cars, so some like the v8 supercars more than others. I find high developed racing cars with attention to new technolgies more attractive than these v8 beasts.
 
My favorite enduros are Laguna Seca 200mi, Grand Valley 300km, and Nurburgring 4 hours. I also enjoyed the El Capitan enduro in GT4.

I've repeated all these enduros many times in many different cars. They are short enough to do in one session, and this should be a lesson to those who are designing GT6 to include more races like these.
 
hilde86
Bathurst is not on the confirmed tracks list and so I didn't take it on my list.
It's a great race but the best race of the year... I doubt it!
For me personally Le Mans and Nürburgring are untouchable the best ones.
But they are different kind of cars, so some like the v8 supercars more than others. I find high developed racing cars with attention to new technolgies more attractive than these v8 beasts.
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I take it CarCzar is talking about the event itself. The nature of the track. Yes, the cars and the close racing even at the finish line each Bathurst brings. Bathurst also run the 12Hour (now featuring GT3 cars) each year and used to run 24Hours. Some teams run diesels and I think Hybrids.
 
If the Grand Valley 300 KM is going to return, it should be an event for Super GT and DTM race cars (and other cars with similar PP).
 
Lord Protector
No! Please good no! No 4h Tsukuba with Mazda Roadster! That's the most boring race I've ever played. Don't get me wrong, I love endurance races, more then those 3 lap normal races but no Tsukuba please.

Actually I've done the 24H Le Mans in GT5 3 times. So far. I'll probably do one more in November.
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Tsukuba is a cool track, but this 4 hour race is a pain in the a%*.

I've done Le Mans twice, looking forward to have time to do another go in the La Sarthe.

As far as i concern, PD should either put a lot more endurances or let us make the events with some kind of editor.
 
SagarisGTB
I'd rather do 4 hours on Tsukuba than 24 hours on any track.

I think the desired number and selection of endurance races depends heavily on how they will be set up. For example, I wouldn't want a 24 hour Spa race if I had to do it all by myself, but I'd be fine with it if I could split time with my B-spec drivers.
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It's a cool feature to have, as long that the craziests players, like me, could disable that and do it all alone! :dopey:
 
VBR
I agree, more 1 hour races would be better, also 30 - 45 minute ones too.
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To me, personally, that's not much of an endurance race. Races that are more like 2:30+ are what I would consider endurance races.

For GT6 endurance events I would like to see:
-Indy 500 with de-tuned Formula Gran Turismos
-Grand Prix of Germany at Nürburgring GP-F
-24 Hours of Le Mans with updated cars and multi-class racing
-12 Hours of Apricott Hill with multi-class racing
-24 Hours of Daytona with multi-class racing
-24 Hours of Nürburgring with GT3 Pro/Am classes
-1000km at Suzuka with GT500 and GT300
-24 Hours of Spa with GT3 Pro/Am
-6 Hours of Autumn Ring (not sure about cars)

These are the ones I would like to see a few of I understand that most will not be in the game.
 
I've always envisioned either the 24 Hours of Grand Valley or a Le Mans Series-type or WEC-type 1000km race around Grand Valley. Six Hours of Deep Forest? Those are ideas I had among the original tracks. Not sure what other original courses will follow, but I'd be open to endurances with these two tracks.
 
I know that Special Stage Route 11 has not been confirmed for GT6, but hypothetically, would you guys want at least a 12 hour race at the circuit, but start the race at night and end in the day? Or start the race at sunset and end the race at sunrise?
 
VBR
I agree, more 1 hour races would be better, also 30 - 45 minute ones too.
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redbullrider20
To me, personally, that's not much of an endurance race. Races that are more like 2:30+ are what I would consider endurance races.
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A 24 hour endurance race with the time sped up so that it was 1 hour long in the real world, would be a welcome addition for many I think. The game already has these features built in, why PD don't use them to the full is beyond me.

The endurance racing in GT5 is something to endure, but not for the same reasons as real life enduro's! ;)



 
I think the endurance racing is a bit much, I kind of liked it in GT4 with the exception of Tsukuba which bored me to sleep and had to let Bob take over. I actually ran the ring and lemans races myself as well as a few of the others but really once was enough. 24 hours of real time tied to the same track in the same car racing against AI that stands no chance is just to much. I seem to remember when I ran Lemans on Gt4 I was using a detuned car with a worn out engine and dirty oil and still won by 35 laps or so. Yet I actually enjoyed that one but would not want to do it again.

Give me more online racing options and forget the boring multi hour events against the AI.

I think a good solution would be to include the races but allow us to adjust the passage of time. Someone else mentioned this and it is a good idea. That way the ones you want to run a literal 24hrs can do so and those of us who think 1 or 2 hours is long enough can do so as well.
 
I was annoyed that the offline races went from being 10 laps long (20 min or so long) to over 2 hours for the shortest endurance. Because we now have more GT cars, I want to see more races that will fill that gap. Would be fun to have more touring car races that cover that half hour or so time length, and then some races and championships that are hour or so long races.
 
The 2:45 race in GT4 was awesome. Most races should be timed. The 24H races must have multiple classes for LeMans, Daytona and the Nur. Spa need to be either classic cars or
Blancpain.
And why didn't we have a Daytona 500 instead of that Indy enduro with the wrong cars?
 

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