Enzo successor spotted

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Following up on the mystery Ferrari mule we spotted a few weeks back , these new and exciting spy shots show the very first stages of a development program that should ultimately lead to a successor for the Enzo–currently code named the FX70.

Housed in the shell of a F430 Scuderia, the keys to the ultra-supercar hidden inside can be seen with a massive, Murcielago-style center-mounted exhaust, a wider track, and suspiciously upgraded rear wheels and tires. Our photogs on the scene also tell us that the FX70 mule sounds pretty amazing, further hinting at the potential under the deck lid.

Ferrari is working on two separate engine alternatives for the neo Enzo, a twin-turbo V-8 capable of roughly 700 horsepower, and a twin-turbo V-12 which should make 50 to 100 horsepower more. Despite the obvious cache of rocking a supercar-standard twelve-cylinder engine, we’d expect the times and temperament of the current automotive climate to push Ferrari towards the V-8. More as we know it.

Have a look at the FX70 mule in the gallery above or scroll down to read the shooter’s own words.

"NO, this is not the Ferrari 430 Scruderia, that Michael Schumacher crashed some weeks ago, that’s been badly repaired and got a re-paint. This 430 is a mule for the upcoming Enzo successor.

We can notice that the track is wider and the wheelbase is slightly longer. In the rear, the first thing that really caught our eyes is the massive Murcielago looking exhaust pipe in the middle. And the sound of this car is just great. The normal exhaust pipes from the Scruderia are just fake.

For the new “Enzo”, still called FX70 internally, Ferrari is working on two different engines alternatives. First one is a twin-turbo V8 producing about 700 horsepower, and second one is a twin-turbo V12 delivering some 50-100 horsepower more.

It’s a difficult choice, to keep the supercar status they should keep it a V12, but with the CO2 discussions and the popular downsizing the V8 twin-turbo could well be a good decision for Ferrari.

With more carbon fibre in both chassis and body, this will hopefully be a true lightweight super car."
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Our intuitive spies from Carpix have caught what is believed to be the first shots of a mule for the successor to the all conquering Ferrari Enzo. It is wearing the body of the F430 Scuderia and had it not been for the shabby looks it may well have gone unnoticed.

The first thing that caught our eye on this model was the huge centrally mounted exhaust pipe that sits neatly at the bottom of the rear end. Judging by the incredible sound coming from this model, is is obvious the regular twin exhausts of the 430 Scuderia are completely unused. The wheelbase also look unusually long which further add to our suspicions.

The project is currently known as FX70 internally at Ferrari and they are still undecided as to what powertrain to employ under the bodywork. The first option would be to continue in the tradition of the first Enzo and pack a powerful V12 engine in, however the Prancing horse may look to downsize to a Twin-turbo V8. The latter of the two would see a power figure of between 50hp and 100hp lower than its larger alternative, but the weight saving advantages could see the performance maintained.

Some say the new Enzo could arrive as soon as 2010, but considering the test vehicles haven't made it past mule form yet, this seems unlikely. We will probably see it in either 2011 or 2012 with a price tag of at least $500,000 and a production run of around 300 vehicles.
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I vote for the forced-induction V8 ala the F40... But, then again, I get all nostalgic too easily.
 
It has half Enzo lights and half 430 lights.

I remember there was some sort of 348 test mule that had the wider track, longer wheelbase and had the Enzo V12 in it.
 
It has half Enzo lights and half 430 lights.

I remember there was some sort of 348 test mule that had the wider track, longer wheelbase and had the Enzo V12 in it.

It's a test mule... That IS a F430, but they are using new bits for the F70. It will look completly different in F70 form. The same thing was with the NSX replacement which was in the S2000 form as a mule.
 
Twin turbo V12.....:drool: The scream of a Ferrari V12, alongside the sound of two spooling turbo's.....:drool:👍
 
O.M.F.G. :drool:👍 That is one seriously mean machine. But if the new Ferrari FX70 looks anything like Emre Husmen's dA work, I'm all for it. :D (yeah, even though as crazy as it seems.....)

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Ferrari F70 Rear
 
It's a test mule... That IS a F430, but they are using new bits for the F70. It will look completly different in F70 form. The same thing was with the NSX replacement which was in the S2000 form as a mule.
It needs to be known now that F70 has nowhere been rumored as the name, and that this car will most likely be out before 2017, easily.
 
It's a test mule... That IS a F430, but they are using new bits for the F70. It will look completly different in F70 form. The same thing was with the NSX replacement which was in the S2000 form as a mule.
I'm just saying that if you look at the rear lights, the outside ones look like Enzo rear lights and the inside ones look like F430. Not referring to the chassis/body which looks exactly like a 430 obviously.
 
I'm liking Ferrari going with some forced induction for a change. I wish they'd do a retro F40-style design but I don't keep my hopes up since Ferrari's design team is blind.

I vote for the forced-induction V8 ala the F40... But, then again, I get all nostalgic too easily.

+1
 
Is this purely a powertrain mule or are they testing some other FX70 bits as well?

Good to see that progress is underway though. Hopefully it'll turn out as iconic as the F50 and F40. The Enzo was a bit of a dud, IMO.
 
Well, it set the company into a newer direction.

I know it is a test mule, but even that looks great. A twin-turbo V12 would be incredible.
 
Is this purely a powertrain mule or are they testing some other FX70 bits as well?

Good to see that progress is underway though. Hopefully it'll turn out as iconic as the F50 and F40. The Enzo was a bit of a dud, IMO.

Most likely the engine & drivetrain, similar to the 348 mule that tested the Enzo.
 
Good to see that progress is underway though. Hopefully it'll turn out as iconic as the F50 and F40. The Enzo was a bit of a dud, IMO.
The circumstances surrounding the Enzo's... "mehness" was a result of Ferrari's own foolish tampering, and at least one of those circumstances won't be an issue this time.
 
So, Road and Track has a bit more information on the F70 here.

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I'm not a fan of these photo illustrations, hopefully it will look better. It looks like a combination of the ugly F12 and the Enzo.
 
I hope it doesn't look like the Enzo F60. The illustrated car looks kind of ugly.
 
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^ Agreed, the front end looks way too F12-ish. I don't really mind the back however (except for the exhausts).

Twin turbo V12.....:drool: The scream of a Ferrari V12, alongside the sound of two spooling turbo's.....:drool:👍

I'd prefer a twin-turbo V12 over a V8.

Scratch that, I'd prefer a naturally aspirated or supercharged V12 for this reason alone:


Yes, I'm very old-fashioned when it comes to engines... :dopey:
 
^ Agreed, the front end looks way too F12-ish. I don't really mind the back however (except for the exhausts).



I'd prefer a twin-turbo V12 over a V8.

Scratch that, I'd prefer a naturally aspirated or supercharged V12 for this reason alone:


Yes, I'm very old-fashioned when it comes to engines... :dopey:


It's probably going to be a twin turbo V8 if Ferrari wants lightness throughout the design. Or they can pull a Lexus and build an ultralight V12 with turbos, but the power has to be above the 800 hp region.
 
I really hope Ferrari doesn't build the ugliest car they've ever made. I have a feeling that's what they'll do.
 
Nobody really knows what this car will look like until its shown at an auto show.

And about the engine, its going to be the same one from the F12 with hybrid-KERS to produce around 830HP.
 
I quite like most of Ferrari's designs... but i hope it doesn't end up looking like that illustration/render, it's beyond fugly imo. :yuck:
 
The posts in this thread had led me to believe that the illustrations portrayed a marmite car; you either love it or you hate it. However after seeing the pictures I honestly can't decide if I like how it looks or not. :lol:
 
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