Equal distribution of regions

[Classic Anycar]

My way of solving the "too many Skylines" problem is an equal distribution of regions. 25% North America, 25% Europe, 25% Asia, 25% Australia. Currently, it is IMO 50% Asia, 20% North America, 20% Europe, and 10% Australia. With everything even, nobody would ever complain about dominance.

 

[daan]

That'll never work.

I'll take the example you give. Say you've got 100 cars. That means 25 of them are American, 25 European, 25 Asian & 25 are Australian. I can name 25 cars from each of the regions no bother at all, but 25 Australian ones? Can you name 25 Australian cars?

 

[Patrik]

My way of solving the "too many Skylines" problem is an equal distribution of regions. 25% North America, 25% Europe, 25% Asia, 25% Australia. Currently, it is IMO 50% Asia, 20% North America, 20% Europe, and 10% Australia. With everything even, nobody would ever complain about dominance.

well, 25% for australia is maybe to much or does they have many car models there? dont think they need to use that system anyway... they just have to realise that they cant put in to much of the same model! (just one of each gen of model would be perfect... as for the skylines it would be: one R32 GT-R, one R33 GT-R and one R34 GT-R for exampel... (the old and newest ones too of course... just donbt know every models in my head )

 

[InZan3]

mayby not 25% for eatch region but it´s a good idea

 

[Dave A]

It would never, ever work. The world isn't like that, there should be more European and US cars compared to the ratio in past GT games, but there's more Japanese manufacturers than America, and more European manufacturers than anywhere so you can't go 25% for each region.

 

[2004TSX]

I agree, maybe not 25% but definitely something to limit how many exact copies of the same car. Now this is ok: Accord Wagon, Accord, Accord V6. They are all different whether it be the body or the engine, all different. Thats fine but when you get 5 Skyline R34's. It gets dumb no doubt.

 

[Diego440]

Can you name 25 Australian cars?

wouldn't that be all the cars in Australia?





Narrow-minded joke of the day, he he

 

[Patrik]

wouldn't that be all the cars in Australia?





Narrow-minded joke of the day, he he

well, spain doesn't have that much cars in production either huh? (from what i know)

 

[Freddy]

There certainly aren't enough Australian cars to fill 25% of the game.

Maybe you could do something like 30% Japanese, 30% European, 30% North American and 10% Australian.

 

[Dave A]

I agree, maybe not 25% but definitely something to limit how many exact copies of the same car. Now this is ok: Accord Wagon, Accord, Accord V6. They are all different whether it be the body or the engine, all different. Thats fine but when you get 5 Skyline R34's. It gets dumb no doubt.

This is debateable, you see I understand people wanting the cars spread more evenly. Like you get umpteen R34's ect but not umpteen Mustangs or CLK's ect. However it'snot a case or the R34's taking the place of other cars as I've explained in another thread. It's simply that they choose not to include others or don't get the licenses, there plenty of room on a DVD for multiple variations of every car in GT4. I don't think they should limit model variations, but expand on it with other models as well as the Japanese makes.

 

[xXSilencerXx]

I don't mind how they got it right now distribution wise. I just get annoyed with 10 skylines and 10 Evos with the same performance. Personally I think the should just include the base model and maby some of the specialty models of the car but not everyone.

 

[Diego440]

well, spain doesn't have that much cars in production either huh? (from what i know)

well, let's see, they have Seat, which used to be rebadged Fiats and now are rebadged VWs... and they used to have Hispano-Suiza back in the 1930s... and I think that's it (hopefully).

 

[a6m5]

I don't think the it would work either. It's useless debating about this IMO, because no matter how it's distributed, there will always be unhappy people.

I like my Gran Turismo just the way it is. Stay politically incorrect!

 

[Jedi2016]

I think there ought to be regional versions of the game itself. Most of the stuff would be the same, with all the sports cars and up being universal, but the "daily driver" little putt-putt cars should be region-specific. Rather than filling the American game with a bunch of Japanese cars that we've never heard of, they ought to put a bunch of American cars that nobody else has ever heard of. Basically, cater the "normal" cars to whatever region it's being sold in.

More of us would actually get to drive our own cars that way.

 

[a6m5]

I think there ought to be regional versions of the game itself. Most of the stuff would be the same, with all the sports cars and up being universal, but the "daily driver" little putt-putt cars should be region-specific. Rather than filling the American game with a bunch of Japanese cars that we've never heard of, they ought to put a bunch of American cars that nobody else has ever heard of. Basically, cater the "normal" cars to whatever region it's being sold in.

More of us would actually get to drive our own cars that way.

You are actually getting less cars that way though. I think this is how we(in the U.S.) didn't get the original Mini. If P.D. did more of this, we might get more "local" cars, but lose lot more overall IMO.

 

[Classic Anycar]

How about this:

LINEUP: the current lineup as of the game's release
USED: general cars from 1-19 years ago
CLASSICS: the most legendary cars from 20 or more years ago
SPECIALS: racecars, concepts, tuners, etc

 

[Freddy]

Probably not. Although I like the ideas of putting the racing livery cars in different categories to the normal ones.

 

[niky]

You are actually getting less cars that way though. I think this is how we(in the U.S.) didn't get the original Mini. If P.D. did more of this, we might get more "local" cars, but lose lot more overall IMO.

I agree... particularly as how 99% of the cars in the game aren't sold here.

If I had to give up the Corvette, Viper, the Lotus cars, etc, just so I could have 1.6 liter Corollas and Lancers, then just fuggedaboutit.

 

[a6m5]

I agree... particularly as how 99% of the cars in the game aren't sold here.

If I had to give up the Corvette, Viper, the Lotus cars, etc, just so I could have 1.6 liter Corollas and Lancers, then just fuggedaboutit.

And I thought I had it bad!

 

[Jedi2016]

I agree... particularly as how 99% of the cars in the game aren't sold here.

If I had to give up the Corvette, Viper, the Lotus cars, etc, just so I could have 1.6 liter Corollas and Lancers, then just fuggedaboutit.

No, no.. anything 200hp+ would be in every version, so you wouldn't lose a thing in regards to Vettes and Vipers. The only thing you'd lose are the Daihatsus and Suzukis that they don't sell here. I'd give up a Daihatsu Midget for a Saturn Ion.

Overall, the number of cars could theoretically go down, depending on how many "local" cars were added vs how many were taken out, but the cars you'd be "losing" would be the ones you'd never drive in the first place. So what's to complain about?

 

[Dave A]

I drive plenty of the sub 200Bhp cars, I drive sub 100Bhp cars from time to time and enjoy it. The bottom line is for each versin to be region specific PD have to model all the cars anyway, so why not just give everyone, everything. Then there nothing to complain about.

 

[Diego440]

yeah, give us a gazillion cars of each region, and the capacity on Memory cards to own them all in one garage (1Gb memory cards for the PS3, he he)

 

[Moloch_horridus]

I hope they just keep adding cars until eventually they are all there and we can then go and recreate events from the past or duplicate current events. More options, more choices, more everything.

If you only want three skylines then only buy three skylines, how difficult is that?

BTW: Australia easily has 25 cars that could and should be included but if you go to 25% of the current 720 odd (180) then you would really be pushing it.

 

[crimson_menace]

Another thought towards the "Too many skylines" problem:

It all depends on the number of manufacturers in the region, as well.
I mean, come on! Austrailia has like 3, whilst the UK, Japan, and the US all have dozens...not to mention all of the countless other regions/ countries with less than 5 to their names. Even distribution between regions in damn near impossible.

 

[Alister_Thomas]

Whilst I 100% agree that something needs to be done about the Japanese-centricity of the Gran Turismo series (a pet topic of mine!!!), I'm not sure that this could be achieved by making each region contribute equally to the overall mix of cars...

Again, I would reiterate that makers of GT need to be a bit better versed in the history of cars and motorsport, in general.

In fact, if the GT series were to truly reflect the "history of the motorcar/motorsport" (or whatever) then I'd say around 65-70% would be based in Europe, 10-15% US and the rest of the world could represent what's left over...

(although I'm willing to concede the US/Europe ratio mentioned above may be inaccurate - I did a rough figure off the top of my head! Suffice to say, though, that Europe/US would, IMO, represent approx. 90% of all motoring activity from the end of 19th Century up until now)...

And before I'm labelled a "whiner" - I have to say that this would be my only *major* critism of GT, as it stands now, and of the direction I think it ought take in the future

 

[Mad Murphy NZ]

I don't think something needs to be done at all. It's a Japanese game therefore you get lots Japanese cars. Rather than taking cars out they should put more competitions in for the smaller cars to make them more useful. I don't want GT5 to have nothing but supercars, that's not what GT is about. I actually like being offered different models of the same car, most games would only offer you one WRX or Skyline, GT4 let you choose. I think the game could do with more American and Australian muscle cars and more classics and a decent selection of European hatchbacks to compete with the Japanese ones.

 

[a6m5]

Whilst I 100% agree that something needs to be done about the Japanese-centricity of the Gran Turismo series (a pet topic of mine!!!), I'm not sure that this could be achieved by making each region contribute equally to the overall mix of cars...

Again, I would reiterate that makers of GT need to be a bit better versed in the history of cars and motorsport, in general.

In fact, if the GT series were to truly reflect the "history of the motorcar/motorsport" (or whatever) then I'd say around 65-70% would be based in Europe, 10-15% US and the rest of the world could represent what's left over...

(although I'm willing to concede the US/Europe ratio mentioned above may be inaccurate - I did a rough figure off the top of my head! Suffice to say, though, that Europe/US would, IMO, represent approx. 90% of all motoring activity from the end of 19th Century up until now)...

And before I'm labelled a "whiner" - I have to say that this would be my only *major* critism of GT, as it stands now, and of the direction I think it ought take in the future

Wow. This is little harsh. Japanese cars deserves less than 10%(since JPN has to share this 10% with S. Korea, Australia) of space, that's something. I hope this never happens.

*snip* I think the game could do with more American and Australian muscle cars and more classics and a decent selection of European hatchbacks to compete with the Japanese ones.

I agree, 100%. 👍

 

[Alister_Thomas]

I don't think something needs to be done at all. It's a Japanese game therefore you get lots Japanese cars.

I understand, acknowledge and even accept that this is the *reason* for there being so many Japanese cars in the GT series but it sidesteps the point I was trying to make:

PD (or makers of the GT series - whatever!) claim that the series represents an "encyclopedia of motorcars" and/or a "history of the motorcar/motorsport" etc. (you get my drift).

I am saying that this claim is largely spurious simply because of the disproportionate amount of Japanese cars in the game.

For me to leave this one alone, PD are going to have to drop the claim that the GT series represents an "encyclopedia of motorcars" (or similar claims) because it isn't!

And that's a fact!!

 

[Alister_Thomas]

Wow. This is little harsh. Japanese cars deserves less than 10%(since JPN has to share this 10% with S. Korea, Australia) of space, that's something. I hope this never happens.

If PD were to say something along the lines of

"Gran Turismo represents the most accurate motor vehicle simulation available on the market to date with lots and lots of Japanese cars as well as a token gesture towards manufacturers from other countries"

then I wouldn't have any issue with what I perceive to be a misrepresentation by claiming... well, y'all know what I think by now!

 

[a6m5]

Alister_Thomasa: I think you are taking the bs by P.D. little too literally. You might be expecting too much from a video game studio. I'm not denying the bias, it's definitely there.