Eric Clapton one off Ferrari

[Schwartz]

The rear end is actually gorgeous. I just wish they did more for the front of the car.

I know. Dat ass...

 

[analog]

Ferrari's program are commissioned projects, whereas at least Lamborghini's J was made as a concept and then sold to a private customer. I'm not sure what the second car you're referring to, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Does SP stand for Special Project? Anyway you're right, they are commissioned to each customer's wishes, much like a coachbuilder.
This one is clearly an hommage to the 512BB.

Before this SP program you could always take your money directly to Pininfarina, like this gorgeous 456 stationwagon designed by the same people who did the original, I think this one was commissioned by the Sultan of Brunei (who ordered multiple examples and also commissioned a saloon version).

 

[Robin]

I find it odd that many other high end auto companies are not so willing to do special commissioned cars whereas Ferrari will literally do anything you want if you have enough cash. For example, why doesn't Lamborghini do this?

And I agree, the 456 Estate was gorgeous but this SP12EC looks rather ugly IMO.

 

[zedextreme8177]

Only things that I'd change are the front end, the rims, and swap the engine for the 6.3L V12, apart from that, it's a perfect modern day rendition of the 512BB

 

[Robin]

I did a quick photoshop with 512 rims...

thoughts?

Robin

 

[G.T.Ace]

Better, now 'shop some F458 headlights on it and it looks pretty good.

 

[Dennisch]

I did a quick photoshop with 512 rims...

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thoughts?

Robin[/QUOTE]

Yesch. That is the look that car needs. Not those ugly way too open wheels.

 

[McLaren]

Yeah, I'm referring one-off to the extent that Ferrari does, not just a concept to be sold to a private collector.

I find it odd that many other high end auto companies are not so willing to do special commissioned cars whereas Ferrari will literally do anything you want if you have enough cash. For example, why doesn't Lamborghini do this?

And I agree, the 456 Estate was gorgeous but this SP12EC looks rather ugly IMO.

Because the money's not there for the company to invest, unless customers want something based off the Aventador body. And we've already had something similar to that with the Reventon.

Ferrari can do it because they have a pretty good range of cars to build one-offs of. And to date, 4 of the 5 (if you count Glickenhaus) have all been built as retro-esque models; this is a 512BB, the P450 Superfast was based off a Ferrari from '68 film Toby Dammit, & the P4/5 was a throwback to the P Series. The other 2 are the SP1 & the SuperAmerica 45 which is about as much a one-off as the 612 Kappa.

Lamborghini won't do that. Every one-off would have to be something modern & different. The closest they've come is the Muira Concept built off the Gallardo, but they refused to put it into production. So all that's left is the Aventador chassis & any one-off built there will have to also be just as radically designed as it was; there will be no Diablo or Countach throwbacks. The Gallardo is going out of production & the Cabrera will be too new to even consider letting customers have one-offs built.

As for others, that's up to them. Pagani does it, but they're still Zondas at heart. Porsche could do it, but they'd be too interested in selling them as limited editions (Sport Classic, Speedster). They could possibly wrap a retro-design of the 550 Spyder on the Boxster/Cayman if they wanted to, but I don't think Porsche is in any hurry to bring back such an iconic car.

 

[RocZX]

I did a quick photoshop with 512 rims...



thoughts?

Robin

It looks better with those wheels 👍

 

[Joel]

That car is just gorgeous.

 

[exigeracer]

So all that's left is the Aventador chassis & any one-off built there will have to also be just as radically designed as it was; there will be no Diablo or Countach throwbacks.

So you're saying that they won't rebody an Aventador because they would have to come up with something more radical, and wouldn't be able to? I have to disagree on both points.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

Very nice, very nice, how much?

More then you can afford pal, Ferrari~

 

[Organ-Donor]

More then you can afford pal, Ferrari~

The fast and furious lol.

 

[TheCracker]

I did a quick photoshop with 512 rims...

Robin

Not a big fan of 458's spindly-spoked wheel design, to me those classic Ferrari 5-spokes look better. But i'd imagine the open design of the contemporary 5-spokes is likely down to brake-cooling requirements. A thicker spoke design would also make the wheels heavier. Unsprung weight is always something engineers try to keep to an absolute minimum with performance cars.

 

[Robin]

Not a big fan of 458's spindly-spoked wheel design, to me those classic Ferrari 5-spokes look better. But i'd imagine the open design of the contemporary 5-spokes is likely down to brake-cooling requirements. A thicker spoke design would also make the wheels heavier. Unsprung weight is always something engineers try to keep to an absolute minimum with performance cars.

But the Ferrari P 4/5 had very thick star pattern spokes and was a way higher performance car than the SP12. With good brakes and air ducting I'm sure you could even enclose the alloy entirely (like with the spinners on F1 cars).

 

[TheCracker]

But the Ferrari P 4/5 had very thick star pattern spokes and was a way higher performance car than the SP12. With good brakes and air ducting I'm sure you could even enclose the alloy entirely (like with the spinners on F1 cars).

Doesn't mean it doesn't suffer from cooling issues, it is a 1-off after all. If you look at the race version that ran at the Nürburgring 24hr, it runs on contemporary-style thin-spoke race wheels.

An Enzo is only a fraction quicker (around Fiorano) than a 458, so it's hardly going to be 'way higher performance' than the 458 based SP12.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

The rear end is actually gorgeous. I just wish they did more for the front of the car.

Agree, though to be fair I feel the same way about the 458.

Those 512 rims look good on it.

 

[analog]

I did a quick photoshop with 512 rims...

thoughts?

If I'm honest (not regarding your photoshop skills), I think that's too literal.
A redesign based on those classic wheels could be better, just like the car itself is a reinterpretation of the 512BB, taking design cues and transforming them into something modern.
I'm not asking you to do a redesign those wheels too though , nice job. 👍

 

[ND4SPD]

Quick, someone throw some HRE's on that car and it'll be perfect!

 

[McLaren]

So you're saying that they won't rebody an Aventador because they would have to come up with something more radical, and wouldn't be able to? I have to disagree on both points.

I'm so proud that that was the only portion of my post you decided to quote.

No, I'm not saying that.

 

[exigeracer]

I'm so proud that that was the only portion of my post you decided to quote.

No, I'm not saying that.

I just quoted the portion I was replying to, as I wasn't sure of your phrasing. Why wouldn't they re-body an Aventador as a commission?

 

[Robin]

Doesn't mean it doesn't suffer from cooling issues, it is a 1-off after all.

Well this is a 1 off too so I don't see why it couldn't have cooling problems either. Plus its unlikely he is going to be doing anything in it other than driving at 30 mph around Surrey, it's not going to Le Mans!

There are many chuck alloys for sale especially aftermarket ones like ND4SPD posted and they don't have any cooling problems at all. When the wheel is moving air is naturally being drawn in anyway.

If I'm honest (not regarding your photoshop skills), I think that's too literal.
A redesign based on those classic wheels could be better, just like the car itself is a reinterpretation of the 512BB, taking design cues and transforming them into something modern.
I'm not asking you to do a redesign those wheels too though , nice job. 👍

The chop was just a quick example but there are many stock modern Ferrari wheels that he could have chosen from which suit it much better, such as these...

For £3 million I would have demanded my own design cut alloys! Putting 458 wheels on it screams lazy to me.

 

[analog]

The chop was just a quick example but there are many stock modern Ferrari wheels that he could have chosen from which suit it much better, such as these...

For £3 million I would have demanded my own design cut alloys! Putting 458 wheels on it screams lazy to me.

I'd prefer something like this, think it's from an F50 yet it does seem to resemble those classic Campagnolo wheels.

Or these.

But maybe Eric Clapton just likes the 458 wheels.

 

[sumbrownkid]

^That's probably the case. Who knows the what's the real reason. Maybe the 458 wheels allowed better brake cooling?

 

[Grand Prix]

Put the V12 in it and produce it.

Now.