Even faster than a Veyron...

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Move over Bugatti Veyron: this is the new Bristol Fighter T, and it's got 'a potential maximum speed of more than 270mph'.

With 525bhp and 525lb ft, the standard V10-powered Fighter is not exactly what you’d call underpowered. But next to the new Fighter T it is: with two turbochargers bolted to the car's 8.0-litre Chrysler SRT-10-sourced engine, the T produces 1012bhp and 1036lb ft. The Veyron can only muster 987bhp and 922lb ft.

The Fighter T's is, however, unlikely ever to claim the title of world's fastest production car - Bristol has electronically reined-in the top speed to a "more than sufficient" 225mph. At that speed it is pulling only 4500rpm in top gear.

To help it reach 200mph-plus, the Fighter T has a new underbody diffuser that reduces the car's drag coefficient to 0.27. The chassis has been stiffened, the ride height lowered and the anti-roll bars and dampers stiffened.

Inside, there is a new 'lightweight' cabin, but Bristol insist this is still a practical car that can fit two people and luggage, and that can be used every day.

Other modifications include a specially strengthened six-speed gearbox to cope with all the torque. The Fighter T can reach 60mph in "less than 3.5sec", and all while still in first gear.

Prices have not been announced, but expect the Fighter T to cost around £300,000. First deliveries are expected in September 2007.

In the meantime, you can read about the current fastest cars in the world in this week's Autocar. We've driven the Porsche 911 Turbo, Aston Martin Vanquish S, Corvette Z06, Chrysler SRT-10, Ferrari 599 GTB, Lamborghini Murcielago, Ford GT, Mercedes SLR McLaren and, of course, the Bugatti Veyron to their limits. Maybe next year the Fighter T will join them.

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Link to the story:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=222987

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Source: 4Car

Bristol is joining the supercar elite with a new 1,012bhp version of its Fighter model, which uses a twin turbocharged version of the standard model's 525bhp 8.0-litre V10 engine taken from the Dodge SRT-10 Viper.

The standard Fighter has a top speed rated at 210mph, but Bristol says this new T version has the potential to reach 270mph, although it has been restricted to 225mph. At this speed, the engine is turning at 4,500rpm, while the rev limiter is set at 6,000rpm in the lower ratios of the car's six-speed manual gearbox.

Helping the Fighter T reach such incredible speeds is the V10 engine's enormous 1,036lb ft of torque. This is even more than a Bugatti Veyron, which manages 922lb ft and 1001bhp. The Veyron also costs £810,000 where the Bristol Fighter T is likely to set you back around £280,000. A standard Fighter costs £229,125 and the 626bhp S model £256,150. Bristol has also reworked the aerodynamics of the Fighter for the T version. There's a new rear wake diffuser to drag air from underneath the car and help keep it sucked to the road at high speed. The Fighter T now has a lower drag coefficient than its sister models, producing a drag of just 0.27. A new lightweight interior also helps performance, with the Fighter T seeing off 0-60mph in 3.5 seconds and using just first gear to do so.

Bristol says the introduction of the Fighter T was prompted by customer demand. Several buyers asked for a car with even greater performance than the existing Fighter versions, but they also wanted a car they could use every day. The first of these customers will receive their Fighter Ts in September 2007. What they will get is a car that sits 10mm lower than other versions, with firmer suspension, and a bodyshell that has been stiffened by 30% to cope with the huge increase in power.

Bristol has been supplying hand-built cars to a small but very loyal band of customers for more than 60 years. The company was founded in 1914 to make aeroplanes and came to prominence during World War Two with designs such as the Blenheim fighter bomber. Car production began after WW2, with the aeronautical division being sold to the British Aircraft Corporation, now British Aerospace, in 1960. Tony Crook, the grandson of the company's founder - and a former Battle of Britain pilot and Grand Prix driver during the 50s - took over the running of the car business and became sole owner of Bristol Cars in 1973. Since then, Bristol has produced a limited number of cars each year. Most models have used Chrysler V8 engines, but the Fighter introduced the Dodge V10.

Customers have included Peter Sellers, designer Paul Smith, Tina Turner and Liam Gallagher. Even former US president Jimmy Carter is rumoured to have owned one. Part of the celebrity appeal is that Bristol proudly proclaims itself as the last remaining independent luxury carmaker in the UK.
 
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Seriously, what's the point of these things?

OMG SEXY!!! @#$%!!!

Oh. That's the point.
 
I have just updated the first post with 4car's version of this news story.
 
Gallagher? Sweet, that guy shares my last name :cool:

Still... its' not like you could use all that power very often... all it'll do is raise up your gasoline bills.
 
Not faster than the veyron eh? good.

'Course, it is limited. So is the veyron. Accelerates about as fast. Not as luxurious.
(enough with the veyron)

I see a few other cars in there. I on first glance, before I saw the detail I though chrysler firepower, but sharing the engine, that makes sense. (Firepower has a SRT V-10, right?)

That is a very cool car. Nice (ummmm... yeah...) price tag (comparatively). What, $500,000? half a veyron, thats pretty good.
 
Not faster than the veyron eh? good.

'Course, it is limited. So is the veyron. Accelerates about as fast. Not as luxurious.
(enough with the veyron)

I see a few other cars in there. I on first glance, before I saw the detail I though chrysler firepower, but sharing the engine, that makes sense. (Firepower has a SRT V-10, right?)

That is a very cool car. Nice (ummmm... yeah...) price tag (comparatively). What, $500,000? half a veyron, thats pretty good.


The chrysler firepower is based on a viper chassis with a 6.2 liter hemi i believe.
 
I'm sorry, but what's the point of this? Nice car indeed, but a "potential top speed of 270mph" = faster than a Veyron? This is just another "oh look, theoretically I am better than a Bugatti Veyron in some way!".

Almost anyone could make a car with loads of power and a long gearbox, then calculate it could do X mph, but actually limit it to a speed it can handle.

Regards
the Interceptor
 
I just hope Top Gear test the 270MPH version.

Not a chance of a test in an 'official' car as Bristol have a standing policy of not allowing independent tests of cars, the only way it will happen is if an owner allows the car to be tested. Something that Bristol 'strongly' encourage customers not to do.

Regards

Scaff

BTW - Autocar carried out independent figure tests on the Veyron up to 250mph (well just short) I will try and scan the final figures and get them up tonight.
 
I don't like it, look at the Veyron, it's just designed for those speeds but this, this more looks like a Bentley Continental GT or something, I definitly don't like it's design. And what's the point of having so much power? Same as the Veyron, so much money and nowhere to spend it.
 
I don't like it, look at the Veyron, it's just designed for those speeds but this, this more looks like a Bentley Continental GT or something, I definitly don't like it's design. And what's the point of having so much power? Same as the Veyron, so much money and nowhere to spend it.
Unless you have your own race track or pay to go to one, also if you have a long airfield or strip of salt lake, then you can use the power. However the salt lake runs can only happen in the right types of any year.
 
It may have a potential top speed of 270mph, but I could make a Mini with a potential top speed of 270mph. If they are making the car usable day to day theres no way they'll get it to do thoes speeds, like I've said every other time a company has made these claims. The Veyron was limited in speed by it's tyre's, not it's power, not it's aerodynamics, not it's engine, it's tyre's and VAG invested a hell of a lot of money in the tyre's they used on the Veyron. For another company with no where enar the funding VAG can give to come up with tyre's that can reliably cope with 20mph faster speeds that are day to day useable is frankly stupid. Some of their claims are false anyway.
 
It may have a potential top speed of 270mph, but I could make a Mini with a potential top speed of 270mph.


Oh Really? I think not to be honest, that would be a race car then, you can't go 270 mph on FF drive anyway. At least, I've never heard of such things. Another example is the Top Secret GT300. A few years back, (forgot his name) this Japanese guy (founder of Top Secret) drove with a speed of 190 mph through New-Zealand whilst still in 4th gear. One hell of a fast car but though it's road)legal, most people will eventually look at it as a race car. That's exactly how I think of this...But then, it's only my opinion. I can't imagine a Mini going 270 mph, the car would'nt even hold the chassis together at such speeds I think :lol:
 
Why would a car being FF prevent it from going 270mph? Giving a car a stupidly high "potential" top speed is all about giving the car the right gear ratios and enough power to get there. To actually "do" thoes speeds though is far more complicated, will the tyre's cope with the heat levels, will the aerodynamics hold the car to the ground, will the asuspension cope with the extra weight of the downforce, will the engine overheat ect. I think you've completely missed my point tbh, I was not saying I actually can go out and build a Mini that I could then drive 270mph in, I was saying I could build one that could potentially go 270mph, they are two very different claims and my point is that Bristol claiming this car has a potential top speed of 270mph is a nothing claim, it's pretty meaningless.
 
It looks so simple compared to the Veyron. It's a beautiful car. British sportcars are one of my favourites.
 
Why would a car being FF prevent it from going 270mph? Giving a car a stupidly high "potential" top speed is all about giving the car the right gear ratios and enough power to get there. To actually "do" thoes speeds though is far more complicated, will the tyre's cope with the heat levels, will the aerodynamics hold the car to the ground, will the asuspension cope with the extra weight of the downforce, will the engine overheat ect. I think you've completely missed my point tbh, I was not saying I actually can go out and build a Mini that I could then drive 270mph in, I was saying I could build one that could potentially go 270mph, they are two very different claims and my point is that Bristol claiming this car has a potential top speed of 270mph is a nothing claim, it's pretty meaningless.

Yes, I completly missed your point, I have to agree with you on that post ^


-Dude, check that Veyron!
°So what? Check my Mini!
-Huh?
°It can go as fast as the Veyron, potentianally
-:irked:

:lol:👍
 
Very ugly and yet again another misleading claim by article writers saying its faster than a veyron. So this is like the 8th car now to claim this feat yet the veyron is still recognised as number one.
 
I quite like the looks of the Fighter, it's not typice supercar or even typical GT for that matter. Anyway I like it but I still think the claim is meaningless.
 
I think the entire thread is mis-named. This merely an update to the Bristol Fighter. Calling it faser than the Veyron is silly, because it isn't meant to be. All the Fighter is is a British Dodge Viper with a far (far far) lower .cd. Can it outrun a Veyron. Of course. Dodge Vipers share the same drivetrain and have a far more blunt body. Does it matter? No.
Fun fact: The Mercedes SL-55 AMG has a "potential top speed" of over 220 MPH (from Mercedes itself), with the SL600 and SL65 being capable of "over 230." Problem is, it's silky smooth body and low .cd means there is a good chance that it would take flight at that speed. The same most likely applies to this Bristol.
Poverty
Very ugly and yet again another misleading claim by article writers saying its faster than a veyron. So this is like the 8th car now to claim this feat yet the veyron is still recognised as number one.
Problem is that I have no doubt (and no one should) that it can do it. Easily. And the Veyron wasn't number one in that particular category when it came out, so be careful with your phrasing. Otherwise, you are correct. The article is quite misleading in it's attempt to be noticed, as the Bristol wasn't designed to do such a thing. And styling is very subjective, so try not to bring it up.
Leonidae
it's a poser/footballer/rapper car. that's the point of this vehicle.
No. The point of this vehicle is to have a lighter/faster/better version of the various tuner Dodge Viper. Just as the point of the normal Fighter is to be a faster, lighter and British version of the normal Viper.
 
I saw this in the newspaper of all places and laughed when they mentioned it was limited. It took them 3/4 of the article to say that "oh, but you're not actually going to be able to go 270mph in it."

I think I've seen Bristol's reviewed in evo a few times, though it's rarely much.

it's a poser/footballer/rapper car. that's the point of this vehicle.
I doubt many footballers, or rappers for that matter, own a Bristol.
 
just wait and see.. though, now that BAP raped the Veyron, I know that nothing is sacred to rich people, so I believe that we'll see one bristol Fighter T in pink or chrome and with 15" wide, 22" rims with gold spinners.
 
I must say that this "270 mph" stuff is bollocks! A Dodge Viper SRT-10 (convertible) is geared for a potential top speed of almost 300 mph, but it doesn´t go that fast does it??? Infact, it has a hard time reaching 300 kph!
 
I must say that this "270 mph" stuff is bollocks! A Dodge Viper SRT-10 (convertible) is geared for a potential top speed of almost 300 mph, but it doesn´t go that fast does it??? Infact, it has a hard time reaching 300 kph!
Yes, and that exact same drivetrain in a normal Bristol Fighter can take it over 200. I honestly don't see why 186MPH is that bad for a convertible anyways (especially since the old Viper GTS, which was down 50BHP and 35lb. ft., could go over 190), but whatever.
 
I must say that this "270 mph" stuff is bollocks! A Dodge Viper SRT-10 (convertible) is geared for a potential top speed of almost 300 mph, but it doesn´t go that fast does it??? Infact, it has a hard time reaching 300 kph!

MODS! bust him for swearing !:dopey: joking!

looks pretty(the word after 270 mph stuff) to reach that.

looks nice in my opinion though!
 
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