Every Car Since Day One vs Upgraded Standards

[Johnnypenso]

@Johnnypenso: We already have around 450 premiums, and between GT5 and GT6, they added 120 cars. We can expect the same for GT7, that would be around 570 premiums without the DLC. The premiums cars are already well detailled, some are already next gen ready, I don't know why you think it's impossible.
And to answer to the poll, I prefer them to upgrade other cars to premium quality, rather than track or new cars (even if I love to see new stuff )

I think you missed the whole context of my post. It's not the being able to produce car skins that I'd be concerned about, PD is more than capable of popping out another 150 cars as you say, my concern is, can they get those cars completely ready for the next generation, which is why I referred you to the DriveClub list. Can they the physics of 550 cars right? How about the sound? Lighting? Interiors? Engine bays? Underbelly? Crash ready? Look at what DriveClub is doing, and it's not a sim by the way and they admit that themselves, and the expectations for PD and the GT series will be even higher. I just don't think PD is going to have a walk in the park getting all that done on 550 cars which is why I'd prefer a game that gets a smaller (and more exciting IMO) car count right with a large number of tracks.

 

[SSQES]

I think you missed the whole context of my post. It's not the being able to produce car skins that I'd be concerned about, PD is more than capable of popping out another 150 cars as you say, my concern is, can they get those cars completely ready for the next generation, which is why I referred you to the DriveClub list. Can they the physics of 550 cars right? How about the sound? Lighting? Interiors? Engine bays? Underbelly? Crash ready? Look at what DriveClub is doing, and it's not a sim by the way and they admit that themselves, and the expectations for PD and the GT series will be even higher. I just don't think PD is going to have a walk in the park getting all that done on 550 cars which is why I'd prefer a game that gets a smaller (and more exciting IMO) car count right with a large number of tracks.

Ok, I see what you mean. I think they can on the following : Physics, Lighting, Interiors for sure. I don't think we will see better damage model, and probably not good sounds like DriveClub. And with Project Cars too, we will have higher expectations.
Also, why do you think Driveclub (as a semi-sim) have better physics than GT (a "real" sim) ?
Just to know, what you consider a good number of tracks? I think 37 is good enough, I expect around 50 for GT7.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Ok, I see what you mean. I think they can on the following : Physics, Lighting, Interiors for sure. I don't think we will see better damage model, and probably not good sounds like DriveClub. And with Project Cars too, we will have higher expectations.
Also, why do you think Driveclub (as a semi-sim) have better physics than GT (a "real" sim) ?
Just to know, what you consider a good number of tracks? I think 37 is good enough, I expect around 50 for GT7.

DriveClub will definitely not have better physics than GT, but as much as we laud the physics changes to GT6, I don't believe the majority of the fanbase for GT really cares about accurate physics, they just want fun physics. The accurate physics are for us hardcore guys that want to drive cars on native tires and simulate real life. Go online and try to find a bunch of rooms with guys on native tires, ain't gonna happen Finding rooms on Comfort Softs or Sports Hards is very rare, almost everyone is on SS or better, and usually RS tires. Last 2 nights I went looking for Senna F3 rooms and all but one were on RS tires.

37 is plenty of tracks but I'd like to see more variety in some of the newer tracks. I'd like some classic circuits, some of the less used but very challenging tracks like Mosport or Zandvoort (classic). Some kart tracks would be nice. Updated and laser scanned Monaco, Laguna Seca etc. I'd also like to see some challenging custom tracks that borrow some of the best elements of real tracks. The corkscrew at Laguna, the karussel at Nurburgring, Eau Rouge etc.

 

[sparkytooth]

GT6 would be perfect if all the missing GT4 courses were still there. New cars are pretty much a given as long as there are car modellers on the PD team.

 

[Bluntified]

I didn't vote but I'd like to see them convert at least one [standard] car from each generation (from every make/model) to premium. Then, they can get rid of the standards all together.

Tracks though, we need more! You can never have enough tracks and variations.

 

[Inferno251]

I expect GT7 to have no standard-quality vehicles whatsoever (especially considering the fact that the graphics would be two generations old )

As for tracks, if the question was 'do you want new or old tracks,' I would without a doubt ask for the old tracks back
Btw, when we talk about tracks do people also include variations that aren't present in GT6 (i.e. Tsukuba Short or the Bugatti circuit)?

 

[Rustyhole]

Somehow, at some point of time, it became more important to have "this and that car" and tracks were forgotten. And the demise of the driving genre started that day.

You can thank GT for that... (#s not exact)
GT1... 140
GT2... 650
GT3... 180
GT4... 720
TT... 130 bikes
GT5 & GTPSP... 1000+
GT6... 1200+

How many cars did ToCA, Colin McRae, Burnout or NFS have then or do now? All the above transitioned to current gen fairly painlessly except a few NFS titles. GT needs a serious culling of repetitive cars and hopefully GT7 will provide the means.

As for tracks, particularily originals, they have a weird system for picking what gets included or not and I don't think it does them any favors.

I'd definitely side with more tracks, way less repetitive cars. I mean we already have at least 4 versions of the current N24 GT-R!!

 

[Robbks]

More tracks, less repetitive cars, more premium cars.
Do we really need 4 different R33 GT-R Skylines, (one from each year of production)

 

[CeeJay]

I'd be happy with the cars we have now with the standard/premium split if you gave me all of the tracks from gt1-gt4 remastered for HD. Red Rock Valley & El Capitan? Yes please!

 

[stuff1138]

I voted for more tracks because as much as "the cars should all be premium by now" is valid I will drive the same cars on more tracks and get more enjoyment from the game.

I do love the extreme variety (50 different skylines, miatats, etc excluded) of cars you can select from in GT though. I will admit I probably won't drive most of them, in fact I don't even care to drive most of them. However what I like and what other people like is different and we end up with a lot more variety when we race each other online.

 

[BrodieBoi94]

Id say the first option, but heading off course a bit, I would prefer if theyd continue adding premiums.

There are already a billion standards, they ought to just "premium-ize" them as time goes on kind of like the "no-stripe ford gt" and the lotus europa.

In gt5 those were standards.

 

[Harsk100]

I voted "upgrade every standard car to premium" because the Premium upgrade is the first priority in my opinion.

Ups! Sorry for revive an thread

 

[pzkpfw]

Making all the "standard" cars "premium" is a gargantuan task and I don't think that PD will ever do it. When asked about this possibility, Kaz basically said that the "premium" cars have to be taken into account as the actual cars of the game, while we'd have to think about the "standard" ones as being somewhat of a bonus addition.

This being said, I think this is the most ardent thing that the game needs. I don't feel like there is a number of cars that were present in GT1 to GT4 and that are missing from GT6. Same goes for the tracks: while the list could use a few additions (Mugello, Catalunya, Donington to cite only a few), I think we are gifted with most of the major tracks out there.

 

[bilao]

1200 cars (100 skyline's...just joking) but....no ariel atom, tvr sagaris, koenigseg ccr ccx one, porsche, noble.....
Then a lot of rally cars but almost none dirt/rally tracks. The balance isn't right

 

[pzkpfw]

We don't have the Atom, but we have the X-Bow. We don't have the Sagaris (which is a wonderful piece of design by the way), but we do have the Tamora and the T350. I'm not really dying to see the Noble, but Koenigsegg would indeed be a nice addition. As for Porsche, that's out of the question right now, because the copyright exclusivity they have with Electronic Arts. It sucks, but there's nothing we, PD or even Sony can do about it.

 

[GTFireball]

Tracks (and better engine sounds).

 

[550]

I've voted the first option. Standard cars are a error,a mistake. Upgrade standard to premium sounds like a fix for GT6 to me. And before adding any new content,they should fix up every single mistake.

Kaz basically said that the "premium" cars have to be taken into account as the actual cars of the game, while we'd have to think about the "standard" ones as being somewhat of a bonus addition.

Wut? Then they should announce in the cover of GT6 as having 462 cars and 797 bonus cars from PS2 era,not 1200+. How the hell can he say something like that? Now I fell like cheated.

 

[Johnnypenso]

We don't have the Atom, but we have the X-Bow. We don't have the Sagaris (which is a wonderful piece of design by the way), but we do have the Tamora and the T350. I'm not really dying to see the Noble, but Koenigsegg would indeed be a nice addition. As for Porsche, that's out of the question right now, because the copyright exclusivity they have with Electronic Arts. It sucks, but there's nothing we, PD or even Sony can do about it.

It still boggles me that PD doesn't take more advantage of the Ruf line of cars when we don't have Porsche. I think PD doesn't really concern themselves with individual car choices or pay much attention to what they perceive as minor details like individual car selection. It seems as long as they are adding cars to the game, any cars, they are satisfied.

 

[550]

It still boggles me that PD doesn't take more advantage of the Ruf line of cars when we don't have Porsche.

+1.

I think PD doesn't really concern themselves with individual car choices or pay much attention to what they perceive as minor details like individual car selection. It seems as long as they are adding cars to the game, any cars, they are satisfied.

Prius,Cervo,Aqua,Leaf and all VGT cars proves your theory. And I could go on and on. I can tell it for my self experience,whatever online room I'm am,I see 1 of 1000 players using these cars,even in "free" rooms. These are cars that players uses only one or two times just to experience it,and then they are just forgotten. Time that was used in these models,could be spend in Supra RZ,All RUFs,Jag E-type and XJ220,GroupB rally cars and some other really relevant cars that players would really enjoy for an long time.

 

[Harsk100]

You can thank GT for that... (#s not exact)
GT1... 140
GT2... 650
GT3... 180
GT4... 720
TT... 130 bikes
GT5 & GTPSP... 1000+
GT6... 1200+

How many cars did ToCA, Colin McRae, Burnout or NFS have then or do now? All the above transitioned to current gen fairly painlessly except a few NFS titles. GT needs a serious culling of repetitive cars and hopefully GT7 will provide the means.

As for tracks, particularily originals, they have a weird system for picking what gets included or not and I don't think it does them any favors.

I'd definitely side with more tracks, way less repetitive cars. I mean we already have at least 4 versions of the current N24 GT-R!!

Not N24 GT-R, but GT-R GT3!

 

[FoRiZon]

wrong post

 

[Brewguy44]

+1.



Prius,Cervo,Aqua,Leaf and all VGT cars proves your theory. And I could go on and on. I can tell it for my self experience,whatever online room I'm am,I see 1 of 1000 players using these cars,even in "free" rooms. These are cars that players uses only one or two times just to experience it,and then they are just forgotten. Time that was used in these models,could be spend in Supra RZ,All RUFs,Jag E-type and XJ220,GroupB rally cars and some other really relevant cars that players would really enjoy for an long time.

I couldn't agree more 👍 Less 20 versions of the same car More 20 different cars 💡 I'm never going to drive all those GT-R's and Miata's DUH!!! Give me more Tracks and Cars and I'll be a Happy GTer

 

[Brewguy44]

It still boggles me that PD doesn't take more advantage of the Ruf line of cars when we don't have Porsche. I think PD doesn't really concern themselves with individual car choices or pay much attention to what they perceive as minor details like individual car selection. It seems as long as they are adding cars to the game, any cars, they are satisfied

 

[HarVee]

Quality first, then quantity. Before adding new cars they (PDI) should put more effort into upgrading the standards. I had hoped that they would've continue upgrading them in the GT6 updates but it seems to not be a priority for them which is disappointing to say the least.