Exciting news!!!! Frex wheel may work on PS3 soon!!!!!

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Just had a look on the FREX website, confusing or what!

I couldn't even figure out how to order tha HallMagPot, or if it would work with the G25.

Seriously, they need to sort out the website, then they might get more business !

Isn't the Frex wheel the one with belt driven FFB like on arcade cabinets?

The FREX wheel I just watched in the SRT video was lead srew driven, like CNC machines are.
 
Bummer. When I first saw this post I mistook it for the ECCI Trackstar 7000 you own isamu. I would rather that wheel support the PS3. That is the one I have my eye on. If they were to ever make that wheel compatible with all systems I would definitely jump on it.
 
Bummer. When I first saw this post I mistook it for the ECCI Trackstar 7000 you own isamu. I would rather that wheel support the PS3. That is the one I have my eye on. If they were to ever make that wheel compatible with all systems I would definitely jump on it.

When I inquired about purchasing a ECCI I asked about future console compatibility... They said never wanted to and never will.
 
I thought this thread was dead after no activity after more than a year
 
No news on the FREX GT5 Compatibility... I'm all over it and can't get any more info.

I don't know if you've seen my post just a few threads above but Shinge's (the owner and designer of Frex) last answer at the end of June was that he will advice on modification to the wheel if GT5 doesn't officially support Frex Simwheel. I think this has largely to do with the connection of gas/brake pedal since there's no connection from the pedal to the wheel similar to what you'd find on the G25/Fanatec wheel on the Frex. But it's just a matter of adding a compatible connectors for the G25, Fanatec or Frex own pedals.

As far as I know the Frex Simwheel, just like the Logitech FB wheel, is based largely on Immersion Technology Corporation Force Feedback so it should be compatible with PS3 and GT5. And if it's a compatibility issue with the wheel itself, thanks to enclosure-less Simwheel and the fact that parts for the wheel is easily obtainable anywhere in the world, makes modification a breeze.

For me the Simwheel is still a much better product that ECCI although I wouldn't dare throw the ECCI away if it magically appears on my doorstep this christmas.
 
Greetings gentlemen. Allow me to respond to these comments with a few of my own. First:




Bummer. When I first saw this post I mistook it for the ECCI Trackstar 7000 you own isamu. I would rather that wheel support the PS3. That is the one I have my eye on. If they were to ever make that wheel compatible with all systems I would definitely jump on it.


I can say with 1000% certainty that NO ONE on this God given Earth wants the ECCI 7000 to work with PS3 more than I do. I have literally begged John Pribble(the lead guy at ECCI) for it. It's not that he is opposed to it, it's just that in a nut-shell, it's too cost prohibitive and would ultimately raise the price of the already expensive ECCI 7000 to an astronomical $3500 or so. They would have to buy the hardware license allowing them to make their devices work on the PS3 and although John was reluctant to say how much the license is, I suspect it's probably somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.

Plus, John told me he has asked numerous 7000 customers or pre-customers if they'd be interested in console compatibility and NONE of them wanted anything to do with it. These are the commercial sim vendors or real racers who use the 7000 for sim training and are the die-hardest of hardcore sim freaks. The thoughts of even playing a console game is laughable to them. I'm glad I don't fall into that category. You guys know me by now: I am actually more of an arcade racing fan than anything else.

Bottom-line, PS3 compatibility is out of the picture for the forseeable future. I joked with John that if I hit the lotto I will buy the entire PS3 hardware license so he doesn't have to raise the price of the wheel :dopey:

I can safely say, that I own enough racing games on the PC to keep me busy for a very long time so I am pretty content on this side of fence. GT5 will be amazing no doubt about it, but I will just play it with a pad just for kicks.

I don't know if you've seen my post just a few threads above but Shinge's (the owner and designer of Frex) last answer at the end of June was that he will advice on modification to the wheel if GT5 doesn't officially support Frex Simwheel. I think this has largely to do with the connection of gas/brake pedal since there's no connection from the pedal to the wheel similar to what you'd find on the G25/Fanatec wheel on the Frex. But it's just a matter of adding a compatible connectors for the G25, Fanatec or Frex own pedals.

As far as I know the Frex Simwheel, just like the Logitech FB wheel, is based largely on Immersion Technology Corporation Force Feedback so it should be compatible with PS3 and GT5.

As a former owner of the Frex wheel and a current owner of the PS3, I'm sorry to say you are mistaken.

I tried the Frex wheel on the PS3 when I had it. The console simply didn't recognize the device. Called it an unknown device. Just to be 100% sure, I fired up GT5P and nada, zilch, nothing.

I am fairly confident that the full version of GT5 will NOT work with the Frex wheel right out of the box. I saw that post and even made a comment about it. I don't know what the current status of Shige and the Sony PS3 license is, but if he does not obtain the official license to make the wheel work on the console, then what he is going to have to do, is supply some sort of external circuit board containing the same, or parts of the same circuit chips that logitech uses in their G25, so that the Frex can "talk" to the PS3. This is not unlike what my friend did with my Happ wheel. There is no other way he is going to make the Frex work with the PS3. It's either officially(license code, driver, etc) or unofficially(Logitech PCB enclosed in an external housing)

I am very interested to see what Shige has up his sleeves regarding this situation.

For me the Simwheel is still a much better product that ECCI although I wouldn't dare throw the ECCI away if it magically appears on my doorstep this christmas.

As someone who's owned both wheels, I can say with 100% conviction, that the Frex is a toy compared to the 7000. The 7000 is in a league of its own, and even the guys from ISR has vouched for this. It's because of that particular episode a few months that I took the plunge on the 7000. I personally love the fact that it's so silent, unlike the Frex which was a lot noisier than I had hoped. For the record, I *did* enjoy the Frex during the time I used it. It's certainly light years ahead of anything Logitech or Fanatec has to offer.
 
Thanks for the clarification, Isamu (regarding PS3 compatibility). I admit my bias towards Frex Simwheel is largely based on its look. It's not as imposing or too industrial looking as the ECCI although the Trackstar 7000 seems almost indestructible. And for a FFB wheel, indestructibility is a good thing. To those unfamiliar with these two wheels:

ECCI Trackstar 7000

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Frex Simwheel

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And it's too bad that ECCI wouldn't support PS3 and GT5 although I can't blame them. Although I dabble in iRacing occasionally as well as rFactor, ever since GT5P, GT has been my mainstay when it comes to game/sim/sim-cade. It's my sunday morning vice.

And I hope whatever wheel Fanatec happens to design next would incorporate a QR Adapter. It would be perfect for anyone who sim-race open wheel, GT and/or Stock Car.

BTW, here's how real driver train :) This is Benoit Treluyer's setup (I think this is his kid), a driver for Audi at this year's Le Mans and for Team Motul GTR in the Super GT series:

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This is Benoit Treluyer's setup

Is that actually a sim-rig as well? Looks like just a neck trainer I've seen other drivers use to simulate G-forces on the neck for different tracks. I've seen Bruno Senna use something similar, without a wheel but in front of a screen showing onboard footage.

On a related note, Andre Lotterer, Petronas Lexus Super GT driver and Treluyer's Audi team mate seems to endorse FREX:

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It is not a neck trainer look at the wheel in the picture... It is attached by a pulley to the weights.
 
It is not a neck trainer look at the wheel in the picture... It is attached by a pulley to the weights.

Ah! Didn't notice the pulley going to the wheel. It is, however, a neck trainer also, there are connectors that attach to a helmet, the very same as that Bruno Senna video I was talking about (Discovery's "Racing Dynasties").

In fact, it's the same machine, made by Technogym

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Ah! Didn't notice the pulley going to the wheel. It is, however, a neck trainer also, there are connectors that attach to a helmet, the very same as that Bruno Senna video I was talking about (Discovery's "Racing Dynasties").

In fact, it's the same machine, made by Technogym

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Ah what a very cool work out machine!
 


Hi guys, hoping you can help!

Basically in this video (sorry this isnt frex related) the insidesim team have the wheel mounted on what Shaun calls 'profile tubing'. I live in the UK and I'm having trouble sourcing it from hardware stores. Is there another name for it? Has it been replaced by something else? Are there any guys in the UK that could point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance gentlemen 👍

Oh and if its not worth persuing because its unstable or whatever, let me know and i'll move on ;)
 
Hi guys, hoping you can help!

Basically in this video (sorry this isnt frex related) the insidesim team have the wheel mounted on what Shaun calls 'profile tubing'. I live in the UK and I'm having trouble sourcing it from hardware stores. Is there another name for it? Has it been replaced by something else? Are there any guys in the UK that could point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance gentlemen 👍

Oh and if its not worth persuing because its unstable or whatever, let me know and i'll move on ;)

http://www.valuframe.co.uk/

I would imagine as long as you follow basic structural rules it should be probably one of the most stable methods of constructing a frame, apart from welding of course.
 
http://www.valuframe.co.uk/

I would imagine as long as you follow basic structural rules it should be probably one of the most stable methods of constructing a frame, apart from welding of course.

Some of the mechanical engineering labs that I have worked in use the stuff to make custom rigs for mechanical testing so it can be very stable. It is also very expensive.
 
I think the first job I get, I will save up for all of this Frex Type G gear.
I should be able to get that money over the summer :)
 
this is great news.. but correct me if im wrong.. both me and isamu have done this first lol! (hey, isamu pal, might have known your in here too ffs!! lols)..

if you consider what frex have actually done (or doing), they are hacking/piggybacking thier own ffb wheel set up onto the components/circuits of an existing logitech steering wheel..

sound familiar?? both me and isamu have done this already with a happ active ffb wheel (arcade machine steering belt drive ffb wheel).. see this thread for more details..
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129355

a hardcore modder with money to burn could do this themselves to a frex or ecci using any logitech immersion tech ffb wheel. (or even a happ which works very well too!!) no need to wait for frex to hand it to you on a plate..
 
this is great news.. but correct me if im wrong.. both me and isamu have done this first lol! (hey, isamu pal, might have known your in here too ffs!! lols)..

if you consider what frex have actually done (or doing), they are hacking/piggybacking thier own ffb wheel set up onto the components/circuits of an existing logitech steering wheel..

sound familiar?? both me and isamu have done this already with a happ active ffb wheel (arcade machine steering belt drive ffb wheel).. see this thread for more details..
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129355

a hardcore modder with money to burn could do this themselves to a frex or ecci using any logitech immersion tech ffb wheel. (or even a happ which works very well too!!) no need to wait for frex to hand it to you on a plate..

Ahhh you're here too? Awesome! Didn't know, LOL. 👍

But yeah, Shige is basically doing exactly what we've done already. I knew getting the license for the drivers for PS3 hardware would be to much for him. It is ridiculously astronomical!!!!! Still, I'd like to hear how this will turn out as time goes on :)
 
If only we could define different buttons for different gears, then the Frex Hshift + would work in GT5.
I hope Frex gets PS3 support, because it really is quality hardware.
 
For those interested in following the development of next generation FREX SimWheel and their new G-series products, please look into Frex's new Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/FREX/182282591804817?v=photos#!/pages/FREX/182282591804817?v=wall

Frex main priority now is developing their new G-series products, according to ShigeT in their forum, and second to come is an update of the Frex web site.

Development/progress of new G-series products, prior to market release, is therefore best followed via Frex's Facebook page for now (all according to ShingeT)..
 

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