Exeter GT Tuning (Updated with new seasonal setups)

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by shaunm80, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. alvaritoteam

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    ok,when you have it send me a pm with the gears
     
  2. shaunm80

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    Will do.
     
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    Cars currently under development

    Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car (650PP RH)
    BMW 320i Touring Car '03 (529PP RH) - Done
    Probably a few randoms as well from my garage.
     
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    I've bought the BMW and was seriously unimpressed with the understeer it displayed. If you can cure it's evil ways, that'd be a huge bonus.
    I want to take it to the Nurburgring for the 24 Mins ;)
     
  5. shaunm80

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    I can't promise how it will handle at Nurburgring as I never test at that track but I think that I have cured the understeer issue that the car has. I will post the tune once I have got the R35 Touring Car sorted out.
     
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    Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car

    650PP
    819 BHP
    1215kgs
    Weight Distribution 52:48

    Racing Hard Tyres

    FC Suspension
    F/R
    90/95
    20.00/11.00
    6/6
    5/7
    2/4
    0.0/0.0
    -0.06/0.02

    Racing Brake Kit
    6/4

    FC Transmission
    Set final gear to 5.500
    Set max speed to 124mph
    1st 2.826
    2nd 2.198
    3rd 1.734
    4th 1.418
    5th 1.196
    6th 1.052
    Set final gear to 3.250

    FC LSD
    8/12
    10/14
    6/10
    Carbon Prop Shaft
    Torq Dist Centre Diff

    40:60

    Set power limiter to 96.4%
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit

    Downforce
    350/600

    Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only. Tested on Brands Hatch Grand Prix Curcuit and Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit.

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    BMW 320i Touring Car '03

    529PP
    433 BHP
    1140kgs
    Weight Distribution 54:46

    Racing Hard Tyres

    NO Oil Change

    FC Suspension

    F/R
    65/65
    12.25/15.00
    5/6
    4/5
    2/5
    0.0/0.0
    -0.08/0.10

    Racing Brake Kit
    8/7

    FC Transmission
    Set final gear to 5.000
    Set max speed to 112mph
    1st 3.320
    2nd 2.528
    3rd 1.966
    4th 1.596
    5th 1.340
    Set final gear to 3.270

    FC LSD
    12/16/24

    Set power limiter to 100.0%
    Engine Tuning Stage 3
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit


    Downforce
    200/500

    Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

    Gearing is set for circuits like Silverstone, Brands Hatch etc.. @Pete05 For Nurburgring the final gear will probably need changing to make longer gears to reach a higher top speed.

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  8. shaunm80

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    Did you notice much of an improvement in the handling department of this car?
     
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  9. Pete05

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    Hey Shaun,

    Sorry mate I haven't had the chance to get behind the wheel as yet. I've got a serious case of DS3 thumbitus :tdown::tdown: :lol: following all the testing & a busy weekend of watching V8 Supercars.
    The BMW is on the list of cars to get out of the garage & blow the cobwebs off soon.
    On another note, I'd be interested to know what you would do to the Mito if you were to upgrade to Sports Hard tyres. Suspension harder right? If I can get it to handle like your Mini, you'd see my smile from here ;)
    I'll update you on the BMW as soon as I park it :cheers:
     
  10. shaunm80

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    I assume you want the same specs as the FITT Spec Challenge? or did you have a higher PP in mind for it? I can do something I'm sure. I am taking the Mini out for a spin now to get a feel for it again.

    I have never seen a V8 super car race before but I drove through the Hamilton Track in NZ when they were creating the road track up through the centre of the town. I can only imagine that the Hamilton circuit is sort of like Monaco with the cars being so close to the spectators.
     
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    One of my favorite things to do with tuning in GT6, is to make what I call 'hypotheticals'. Cars that you can build up to like a model you wished the manufacturer would develop & then release.
    Taking the Alfa Romeo MiTo for example, I've got what I call a GTA version & a GTA Evoluzione.

    The GTA spec has 423pp

    Tune

    Sports Hard tyres
    Oil change
    Type B aero kit
    Rear wing Custom A :downforce 5
    Other part B
    1 inch up wheels
    FC suspension
    FC LSD
    Twin plate clutch
    Mid RPM turbo
    Sports computer
    Sports exhaust
    Carbon bonnet
    Window weight reduction
    Weight reduction stage 1

    1049kg
    63:37 weight distribution

    197BHP/5800rpm
    25kgfm/4300rpm

    Evoluzione spec

    Same as above with the addition of:

    2 inch up wheels
    Racing brake kit
    Triple plate clutch
    Intake tuning
    Engine tuning stage 1
    High RPM turbo
    Racing exhaust
    Isometric manifold
    Sports Cat converter

    263BHP/6300
    30kgfm/6300

    The Evoluzione is good for a 1:41 around Brands Hatch GP & I'd like to get better out if it & know that'll come from the suspension being tweaked.

    I've got a while heap if these in a list & I might as well start at 'A' :D

    As for the V8 Supercars, if you've never seen a race before, do yourself a huge favour and mark down the 12th October. That's the day off the Bathurst 1000. It sounds like an endurance race but it's really a sprint race. They're the closest form of Motor Racing I know of.
    This weekend we had the our New Zealand round at Pukekohe.
    The entire field of 28 cars were covered by less than a second in qualifying.
    The Hamilton race is no more. It was an experiment done to gauge interest in a street race & an incentive for Pukekohe to get its funding in order to make the circuit safer & more corporate friendly. Hamilton cost a lotta money to run & when the funds ran dry, we went back to Pukekohe.
    Great track and an excellent place to watch the cars on edge.

    Apologies for the essay ;)
     
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    The Evoluzione spec sounds quite fun, challenging and has lot of power so Ill give that one a go. Try and get the mini-esque handling on it.

    I have heard of the Bathurst Race. Isn't that where people smuggle 24 packs of fosters into the race circuit before the fences are secured and then get really drunk on race day. Lots of people have a huge brawl about whether Ford or Holden are the best car in Australia and somewhere in between this fighting, a car race takes place until the next big brawl takes place? :)
     
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    That sounds like Bathurst used to be not long ago. In the 90's & earlier, you could take as much to drink as you felt necessary. After all, Man is not a Camel. We get thirsty :D.
    The top of the mountain had a rough reputation and it wasn't somewhere you take the Wife & kids unless they were of a special breed.
    Cars used to get thrashed, trashed & burnt, wouldn't wanna take a Holden there if the Fords won & vice versa.
    One year, a brand new amenities block was built for the race and before the race had even started, not a toilet bowl was in usable condition!
    Following all this, the organizers decided a crack down on unruly behavior was warranted. Limits were placed on the cars you could take to the top. They had to have at least 6 months registration.
    A limit was placed on alcohol of a 24 can slab of beer or a 750ml bottle of spirits per person per day.
    Some felt this was over the top and a serious limitation so about 2 weeks before the race, slabs were seen to be buried within the camping grounds so that should they run short, sticks were handy.
    Now it's half corporate hospitality tents & well behaved annual veterans that have been going since they were young. They can take the grandchildren now knowing it's family friendly :)
     
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    Cars currently being worked on.

    Scion FR-S '12 (450PP)
    Maxda RX-7 Touring Car (600PP RH)
    Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09 (Special request version) SH tyres tuned for Brands Hatch.
     
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  15. BAKEMISTER

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    can you do a corvette ZR1 LM tune, RS 1215kg and around 550 bhp
     
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    I don't own that car as yet and I am running low on credits at this time. When I have boosted my credits up sufficiently, ill buy this car and the other LM race car on the same page in the dealership and do them as a set. May take a little while (maybe a week) to get the credits to do it though. Hope thats okay?
     
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    Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09

    461PP
    262 BHP
    1049kgs
    Weight Distribution 63:37

    Sports Hard Tyres

    Change Oil
    Type B aero kit
    Rear wing Custom A
    Other part B
    Inch Up: 2 Wheels


    FC Suspension
    F/R
    100/100
    5.75/2.50
    4/4
    4/6
    2/5
    0.0/0.0
    -0.08/0.04

    Racing Brake Kit
    7/6

    Standard Transmission

    FC LSD
    10/20/16
    Triple plate clutch

    Set power to 100.0%
    Intake Tuning
    Engine Tuning Stage 1
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Sports Catalytic Converter


    Weight Reduction Stage 1
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window Weight Reduction

    Downforce Set to 5

    Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

    MiTo Pete05.jpg

    Big thanks to @Pete05 for the testing help through the development of this car. His insights were invaluable to getting this car to where it is now. After many hours of tinkering and 90 miles of running at Brands Hatch, This car is ready to go. This car is consistent, fun and lively. (see posts below for the development of it). Enjoy. :)
     
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  18. BAKEMISTER

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    that is fine, just that i think that these specs are the ones for the gt3 car and wanted to see if the gt3 cars alredy in the game are as quick or too fast for this spec with a good tune
     
  19. Pete05

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    Thanks Shaun :cheers:.

    I'll add the suspension, diff & brake bias and see what I end up with.
    I wanna keep the standard gearbox and stage 1 weight reduction so things might be a little different.
    I was seeing 1:41:xxx with the base tune. The only alterations I made were to drop the front ride height to 105mm, raise the rear ARB to 7, alter the brake bias to 5/6 and the diff to 10/50/5 so I expect to threaten the 39's on a good lap with your improvements.
    Let you know how it goes :)

    BTW my Evoluzione is painted Alfa Red & running on OZ Racing Superforgiatta in Black.

    [EDIT] Made the changes you suggested & went for a little drive at Brands Hatch.
    Ended up with a 1:40:630 on lap 8. Not as much rotation as I was expecting TBH and I found the front brakes felt like they were doing the best they could to lock up & run wide, even with ABS 1. That may have something to do with me running the original weight distribution, I'm not sure.
    It's faster on the stopwatch so a definite improvement. :bowdown: :cheers:

    Feel free to continue adjustments :D
     
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  20. Pete05

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    Handles a whole lot better now thanks Shaun. Cheers :cheers:
     
  21. shaunm80

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    Thats what I thought. I will try out the Weight Reduction 1 and reach the 1049kg weight that way. The tune was a preliminary effort to see what time you were getting. I know some of the flaws in it already and the handling package hasn't been fine tuned like the Mini was as yet. This is on my to do list. At least I know that the time is increased by the initial settings.

    The reason for the lock up is the weight transfer. When you hit the brake, the weight from the rear of the car is loading the front tyres so that will be sorted out before the tune is completed.
     
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    Not sure how much more I can squeeze out of the suspension settings to gain time. I have updated the Settings in the original post for you to try out. The fronts don't lock up nearly as much now, even with hard braking and the rotation is improved on a number of the corners so more speed can be carried through. Again, let me know how it handles and the next post will be the final version for sure. Thanks by the way for testing the settings as I progress, it makes it easier for me to make changes based on what you want out of the car.
     
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    Ok that's cool :bowdown: Thanks heaps :D

    In that case I'd say the front of the car has more grip than the rear and I know I can go faster if I have more reliable rotation.

    I find a lap at Brands will come if you can completely trust the front of the car. The back can get a little flighty if it likes but it's only helping with rotation so long as it's controllable.
    I get on really well with any car that will tighten it's line with throttle control. In a FF, especially in long or high speed corners, I want the front of the car to tuck in or tighten it's line when I come of the throttle.
     
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    Hey Shaun,

    Sorry for any confusion, I've just seen the updated settings.

    I'm haven't even finished the lap yet & I can tell it's better.

    It's alive! :bowdown:

    [EDIT] 1:40:194 :D
    Better everywhere & definitely heading in the right direction.
    Behaves a lot nicer & shows more obedience in the medium to high speeds. Combined with better rotation in the slower stuff it feels faster overall.

    2 thumbs up :tup: :tup: :D :cheers:
     
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    Just drove this to Victory in the Nurburgring 24 (I refuse to add minutes here)

    Ran it at 505pp/319bhp with:

    Racing soft tyres
    Intake tuning
    Racing exhaust
    Isometric manifold

    Something this car wasn't capable of in its default suspension setting.

    Ended the race with the tyres on 6/8 FR so maybe a little hard on the fronts but still a winner. :bowdown:
     
  26. TCL_McQUEEN71

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    Congrats, easy to find a good tunes here! Good job!
     
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    Excellent. I may have to attempt this race sometime soon. I love the Nurburgring but that track does not love me when it comes to races. I always struggle to win on that track.
     
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    Thanks, I try to make this garage easy to navigate. Good to know the non-link system is easy to follow.
     
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    You can never do too many laps at the Nordschleife. I'm sure I've worn my own groove in the track.
    Track knowledge & car placement are vital for success here more than anywhere else.

    Best advice I can give, is pick a car you love & know inside out.
    Take it for a time trial and pound around & around.
    If you know what the car likes, and it's handling traits, you can then concerntrate on the track and learn where you need to place the car and how.
    Some corners look easy but the bumps & cambers soon see to that.
     
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    @LJ12
    Being a fan of all things Alfa Romeo, you'll probably like this :D
     
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