F1 Career Challenge..

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Ok, I know there are numorous topics about it, but none answered my question. How bad are the bugs? I've heard about the AI just driving through the pits and it counts as a stop. Is it very frequent? If it's not, it doesn't bother me. I am thinking about purchasing it.
 
I think F1 2002 is better IMO. It's more of a sim than F1 Career Challenge is. The graphics aren't near as good, but the AI is just too slow in F1 CC compared to F1 2002. F1 2002 is one of the hardest games I own. Plus if your using a wheel, F1 CC feels wierd in comparison, like the physics just aren't right for some reason. F1 2002 is MUCH better.
 
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agreed, but F1 2001 is even better than 2002 :D
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I liked 2001, but I can't look at those graphics, and also, no Toyota (they showed up in 2002), all the cars have the same stats, damage is alittle wonky :odd: AI is WAY too agressive (on all 3 games) And did I mention that all the cars drive, sound, feel and handle differently on F1 2002? Also you have FUNCTIONAL side mirrors on F1 2002 only (minus the McLaren's)

F1 2002 is like the perfect mixture of the 3. And all the missing features that 2001 had that aren't on 2002, can be unlocked in 2002 by either getting all the EA cards on Gold level, or putting in a cheat code.

Oh, and F1 Career Challenge is based on 2002 season as well.
 
I was looking at screenshots of Career Challenge, and it looked like the mirrors worked....But ill take you're word for it.


The career in Career Challenge appeals to me though.
 
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I was looking at screenshots of Career Challenge, and it looked like the mirrors worked....But ill take you're word for it.


The career in Career Challenge appeals to me though.
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I had Career Challenge first and brought it back for F1 2002. The career mode would be fun if it were an actuall challenge. And if it would let you pick the race settings (ie. damage on/off, rules on/off, race length, weather, etc...) instead of gradually turning them on as the game progresses. And beating Ferrari's with a Arrows or a Bennaton?? :dunce:

And the mirrors work on like 2 of the teams cars on Career challenge. They make a big difference. It's just my opinion, I think you can get either one of them for $20, so whatever, go get Career Challenge from a place like Rhino Video Games so you can return it for the other if you don't like it. If your a sim racing fan and like a challenge, I would get F1 2002.
 
Oh yeah, the glitches. F1 Career isn't too bad about it. They like to make there pit stop on the last lap so that they only have to drive half way through the pits before winning the race due to cheating (you can't do it w/o being DQ). BASTARDS. But the AI is better behaved in Career than it is in 2002/2001. THE MAIN GLITCH IN 2001/2002 is the BASTARD FIA Rules system. If you go 131mph you get black flagged, if you get 1 pixel in front of an AI car under yellow, black flag, BUT THEY CAN PASS YOU W/O A PENNALTY. WTF!! Fixing that was the main improvement they made from 2002 to Career Challenge. But the rules can be turned off, so it's not too bad. Or you can just be EXTREMELY careful about them.

They both have glitches, so whatever. They definately aren't game breakers though.
 
Crap.. I cant decide which one. The difference in graphics dont bother me(and they shouldn't), and besides, the only difference I can find is the glare effect.

F1 2002 looks good, but I still can't decide. :indiff:

EDIT: And is it only F1 2002 that the cars handle differently? If so that makes a difference.
 
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Crap.. I cant decide which one. The difference in graphics dont bother me(and they shouldn't), and besides, the only difference I can find is the glare effect.

F1 2002 looks good, but I still can't decide. :indiff:

EDIT: And is it only F1 2002 that the cars handle differently? If so that makes a difference.
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Do what I did. Get them both and take back the one you don't like. :lol: ;)

And the cars in Career Challenge are all different in sound, handling, power, etc. Just like 2002, but it's not as noticable due to the slow AI and the odd physics.

Those two things were my main deciding factors.
 
Well, F1 2002 is $5 cheaper, but there are none available at stores nearby..BUT it sounds like F1 2002 has more gameplay.

How bad are the flag rules? Can the AI pass you under yellow in Career Challenge? Does the AI make mistakes in 2002 like in CC? Is the AI THAT much slower in CC? I am starting to lean towards 2002, because the AI is faster, and it sounds like there isn't much difference otherwise between the two.

This is most likely my last bunch of questions. Maybe.

Sorry about all of them. Thanks for the help rsmithdrift.

EDIT: Also, is the damage model any different between the two? Like does it look more realistic in one or the other? It doesn't make much of a difference, I am just curious.
 
thenucleardart
Well, F1 2002 is $5 cheaper, but there are none available at stores nearby..BUT it sounds like F1 2002 has more gameplay.

How bad are the flag rules?
Can the AI pass you under yellow in Career Challenge?
Does the AI make mistakes in 2002 like in CC?
Is the AI THAT much slower in CC?
I am starting to lean towards 2002, because the AI is faster, and it sounds like there isn't much difference otherwise between the two.

This is most likely my last bunch of questions. Maybe.

Sorry about all of them. Thanks for the help rsmithedrift.
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Awe, I dont' mind.

In order.

The flag rules give you about 5 sec. to get down to 130mph, after that if you go 131mph for more than a second or two, you get a stop/go. They fixed the flag thing in CC almost perfectly. Mind you that the AI in 2002 won't go above 125mph under yellow, so if your going as fast as you should be going you won't have a problem. It's mainly if your coming to a tight turn under yellow the AI will just out brake you as if it were a green flag. Depending on the conditions they may or may not get a stop/go. They will also get a stop/go for dangerous driving. It's just way to easy to get penalized, but that's the only problems with the rules in 2002. Other than that they are fine.

The AI in CC will get a stop/go if they pass you under yellow. But they'll occasionally do it.

It depends on what kind of mistakes. If you're talking about driving errors and spin out, off track excusions, bumping each other, etc. Then yes, with a very realistic frequency. On Hard difficulty one car will F' up every 2 or so laps in a 8 lap race and sometimes 0 DNF's. Same goes for CC. But in both games the AI can only DNF due to blown motor and it can happen to any one at any time. INCLUDING YOU. But you can DNF due to busted suspension, locked steering, motor failure, or loosing two or more wheels. (in both games)
If your talking about glitches, then the only annoying AI glitch is that if you fast forward throught the qulifying session then the AI runs laps that mirror those they would normally do on EASY difficulty no matter what you set them at. This is avoided by letting the session run through at normal speed (Duh). You can fast forward the first half hour, but you have to leave it for the last half if you want competitive qualifying times (It's exciting watching you and your opponents competing for the pole). Other than that, NO. They fully recognize your position and will race you hard. They draft you and you draft them. Very exciting stuff (only time I like the agressive AI)
BE CAREFUL ON THE STARTS, THEY ARE VERY SCARY IN SIM MODE ON HARD DIFFICULTY.

Well, avoiding the AI qualifying glitch, I run my hardest in a Ferrari or BMW Williams in qualifying and I am lucky to get 3rd on the grid. Doing the same in CC, I sand bag (hang back) and still get pole by 1.0-2.5 seconds. PATHETIC. Also the racing isn't as exiting in CC, but it is more realistic in their comparitively subdued behavior. Note that I was on hard difficulty in both games.

Well the physics are different, and the tuning is highly simplified in CC, but other than that, yeah, that's pretty much it.

EA went on this simplifying streak in 2003 and they took alot out of their games. CC is comparitave to NASCAR THUNDER 2004, where as 2002 is more of a sim.

Sorry it was so long.
 
Thanks for the help. :)

EDIT: Oh yeah, I might see if one of the Blockbusters nearby have one or the other for rent. It would most likely be Career Challenge, so if the were to slow, I'll get 2002.
 

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