F1 vs DTM!!

[Lee]

Its happening!!

Check it out

I think we know what will win, but by how much is the question...

I'd say a good 7 seconds

What does GTP think?

Bee: 7secs
amp88: 20+secs

 

[gt_masta]

It's obvious that the dtm will win by 10 secs

 

[Lee]

That is a joke right?

 

[Omnis]

Haha, yeah.

If it's a minardi, it'll come in last, but the DTM, being a mercedes, is bound to blow up somehow. Maybe if you submit that answer, they'll take you around in the F1 instead of the DTM.

 

[Lee]

Haha, yeah.

If it's a minardi, it'll come in last, but the DTM, being a mercedes, is bound to blow up somehow. Maybe if you submit that answer, they'll take you around in the F1 instead of the DTM.

Its funny because its true!!!

 

[amp88]

I don't know much about DTM, but I do know that both DTM and F1 events are held at Hockenheim. For the 2005 DTM race, the pole position time was 1'34.648, with Hakkinen qualifying in a 1'35.697 (apparently he had brake problems). The F1 pole position time this year was a 1'14.320, and Albers put in a 1'17.519. I don't know the track layout of Zandvoort, but if it's anything like Hockenheim, the gap should be 20+ seconds.

 

[Omnis]

of course.

 

[Beelzebub]

what we need is a champ car/f1 comparo

 

[amp88]

what we need is a champ car/f1 comparo

Only track I can think of where F1 and Champ cars both run is at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal. According to the official champ site, the lap record for Champ cars is a 1'18.959. The official F1 site has the F1 lap record at 1'13.622. Not really much of a contest. Of course, on an oval it would be much closer, probably at default settings the Champ car would comprehensively beat the F1 car. With a little time to set the car up, though, I doubt the F1 car would be very far behind.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Haha, yeah.

If it's a minardi, it'll come in last, but the DTM, being a mercedes, is bound to blow up somehow. Maybe if you submit that answer, they'll take you around in the F1 instead of the DTM.

Is this the cat-with-buttered-toast conundrum?

Only track I can think of where F1 and Champ cars both run is at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal. According to the official champ site, the lap record for Champ cars is a 1'18.959. The official F1 site has the F1 lap record at 1'13.622. Not really much of a contest. Of course, on an oval it would be much closer, probably at default settings the Champ car would comprehensively beat the F1 car. With a little time to set the car up, though, I doubt the F1 car would be very far behind.

This makes no sense. You're saying that the two types of car running in their natural habitat (left-right courses, as opposed to ovals), on the same circuit is not a valid comparison? Or are you getting confused with IRL, where the racing is usually done on ovals? Or did you forget that Champ Car is now primarily a street track formula?

 

[Dougboy]

well, u cant compare champ car vs f1 at circuit gilles villeneuve. Champcars can change tires so they will use a softer compound which makes them faster.

 

[amp88]

Or are you getting confused with IRL, where the racing is usually done on ovals? Or did you forget that Champ Car is now primarily a street track formula?

The Champ cars do still run at ovals though, so they'll have the set up advantage there

 

[amp88]

well, u cant compare champ car vs f1 at circuit gilles villeneuve. Champcars can change tires so they will use a softer compound which makes them faster.

Did you not read my post?

 

[Cosmic]

I would say 15+ seconds.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

The Champ cars do still run at ovals though, so they'll have the set up advantage there

Indeed. But F1 would almost certainly opt for its rematch at Monaco or the Hungaroring, where you would expect the lighter, more aero-efficient F1 cars to hammer the ChampCars.

well, u cant compare champ car vs f1 at circuit gilles villeneuve. Champcars can change tires so they will use a softer compound which makes them faster.

This would be a valid argument had the F1 cars not been 5.3 seconds a lap faster, and also had the lap record not been set in 2004, when F1 cars were allowed to change tyres.

 

[Kutscher80]

HI!

Very Interesting.

The Track in Zandvoort is sometimes called a mini "Nordschleife". 👍

The F1 cars aren´t soooo good when the track is not "plain" enough...

So the F1 will win but the margin wil not be that big.

I would say max. 10 seconds


Greetings

Kutscher

 

[RouWa]

I don't know the track layout of Zandvoort,

1 lap = 4,307 km (2,7 miles)

 

[Blake]

In related news Minardi will be bringing there cars to Adelaide to support the V8 Supercars.

Link

Blake

 

[Lee]

Sweet!!

 

[Mclaren_Man]

Ha minardi, the slowest car in F1, will still cane the V8's, i reckon ill go to the adelaide 500 just to see the that!

 

[Blake]

Of course it would. And it's getting half competetive now, I mean it's caining the Jordans in qualifying and not doing too bad in the race either.

Blake

 

[Lee]

Oh yes Minardi are certainly on the rise, which is great to see after all the mocking theyve been through since as long as i can remember.

I personally hope they secure their position as f1's 2nd slowest team.

 

[Blake]

Well next year they'll be using a rev-limited V10 and building off a (relatively) successful chassis/engine combination, it should be a good year ... unless Midland get their act together (I somehow doubt this).

Blake

 

[Lee]

And if midland dont they can call on the services of the Russian mafia....

Tbh i think we could see minardi with the number 18 and 19 cars very very soon.

 

[amp88]

Happening this weekend then...any late guesses?

 

[RouWa]

I was not able to find any results on the web. How did it end?

 

[amp88]

I couldn't find the results either, I was hoping someone else would come up with them.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Ha minardi, the slowest car in F1, will still cane the V8's, i reckon ill go to the adelaide 500 just to see the that!

See ya there! Where in Adelaide are ya?

 

[ExigeEvan]

Hey Jack, DTM > V8 Super cars

The F1s wil win, quite easily, but it'll still be interesting to see how close the DTMs can get.