F12 Berlinetta - arrived 29 Feb 2012

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:D Couldn't resist.

Yeah, see accelerating to a fairly high speed is one thing, but I mean having a complete driver's car where you can actually use all the power on a regular basis, and from corner to corner. In my car, with it's relatively small amount of power, I can have a bit of a play on the street without too much risk. In something with 6-700hp, I bet the intimidation factor would be too high to really get stuck in and have a go.

That said, if anyone wants to lend me a Zonda F Clubsport for a weekend, I'd be happy to discover I was wrong... :D

A thing I've noticed, and something viewers of the youtube channel DRIVE will recognize, is that the power should match the cars handling capability. If you took the Aventador and gave it 300hp, it'd feel lik you were being pushed in a wagon. When a car's chassis can handle 700hp+ and you can drive it on the very edge with 700+hp, you want 700+hp. I've driven an R35 and while launching it was like reliving the momemt you lost your virginity, and doing so 20 times over, it just wasn't as fun as I had with my dad's 996 Turbo or GT3. When you pushed the GT3 around a corner, you were fighting it, and really enjoying the effort. The GTR is point and shoot the whole way around.
 
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That's what makes the GTR addicting to some though. Its insane grip makes it a good challenge to find and break the limits. Which I'm sure it's harder to get to in a GTR than a Porsche due to the electronic wizardry going on in that Nissan.

Apples to Oranges really though.
 
Professional render specialist Wild-Speed created this picture from that ^ one.
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Cheap trailer.

The shape reminds me of the 599 or something similar, so I am sure it will be successor. Always thought the 599 is extremely ugly, so I am curious to see if this will look better.

Im pretty sure that was a 599 with the F6250 Engine and all, they wont show what it looks like till Geneva. It was a test car
 
Think I prefer the 599 to be honest, but I'm not a big fan of the latest gen Ferrari's styling, I prefer the 430 to the 458, and I don't like the FF at all.
 
Looks dull, honestly. A mix of the FF nose piece, coupled with the hips & rear end of a California.

Meh. Pretty much this.

I tell you, I miss the styling from the 80's and 90's.
 
I dunno. I think that overall design looks alright, with a few really cool looking bits (like the bottom lip).



Though it is a shame that it didn't keep the flying buttresses. It makes the canopy look pretty boring; almost anonymous.
 
I like that. I think. But if it has 700 bhp, I don't. It's just too much, and Jeremy Clarkson agrees with me.
Jeremy's argument though is against cars that have so much power, that they can't put it down effectively. Brabus cars just spin the earth in the other direction & the 599 GTO's electronics are always getting in the way of the driver trying to work the car around a course while managing the 660hp.

There are plenty of cars with 700Bhp that can put it down effectively without making the car rubbish. The Aventador is easily one of those as has been the Koenigseggs, esp. the Agera which is a tame car up until the point you try to manhandle it when it doesn't want to be.
 
They really have to go to great lengths to try to disguise just how damn big the fronts of these cars are these days don't they?
 
Where's the back end? I wouldn't want a GT that looks like a bloody estate wagon.
 
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