Famine's Shuffle Racing Alternative

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So, I always quite liked the idea of Shuffle Racing, only I felt it needed more direction - a sort of handicapping system to make the racing close - so back in GT5 I came up with the Kerfuffle for our LANs.

GT6, at this point, has no Shuffle Racing, so we've worked to get the Kerfuffle functioning so it could be shared with the community. The file is attached and self-running - all you need to do is tell it who's driving and what the results are.

The cars required are in the final sheet* - everyone in the lobby will need the cars, though faster drivers will want to prioritise the slower cars and vice versa. They all need Sports Hards and can be oiled, wheeled and painted, but nothing else (total cost ~2.2m credits). This means you can run "Tuning Prohibited"** lobbies, with PP limits (520 works) and Sport Hard tyre limit to prevent a lot of cheating - though the Kerfuffle is remarkably good at sorting out drivers who cheat their cars by demoting them into slower ones while everyone else is moved up and sorting out sandbaggers.

Using the file:

  • Pick the sheet in the file that has the number of people in your lobby in it (4-16).
  • Type in the driver IDs in the "Driver" column for race 1
  • Type in whatever car IDs you want into the "Car #" box for race 1 - the example uses all 15s (Ford Focus ST) but there's no reason you can't put in whatever you want. You can even handicap drivers according to known abilities if you like, but I'd suggest keeping the middle guy in car 15 (or the middle two in 15 & 16)
  • Fill in the race results.
The Kerfuffle will tell you what you're racing next - you should find close racing by the end of race 4, everyone can win the series and you all finish within a handful of points.

When you're done racing, Select all, Copy, Paste Special (Text, Numbers) and copy the sheet to a new file and you have an easy reference results sheet too.

There's also a track generator at the bottom of each Kerfuffle sheet that outputs five tracks a time - one short, one normal, one long, on extra-long and one "niche" (SSR7/X, Kart Space, GT Arena). You can use your own tracks or use this to decide what's next if you like. I've not put reverse or weather, time, no chicane variants in - it's up to you.

Although we've tested it and found it generates a pretty close environment even with a large spread of driver abilities. We've not tried with a field of closely matched drivers, but it shouldn't do too badly either.

The math is all done in hidden cells within each sheet, but also the amount by which the drivers will move is in the second last sheet. It's all easily adjustable if you feel it's not doing the job - adjust it how you like. Spread it round if you want, I'm not fussy.

The zip file contains both .xls and .ooc files for ease of use.


*If you've got thirty cars you've tested and want those instead, just type them in (slowest at 1, fastest at 30) - you'll see our thirty approximately span 15% reduction in performance. This is a good ballpark to aim for.
**The exception to the "nothing else" rule is the Ford Focus ST, due to the broken gearbox. It can be used with the stock gearbox but ranks several places lower. The fix is:
Buy Fully Customisable Racing Transmission.
Set top speed to 174mph.
Set the individual gear ratios in order from 1st to 6th to: 1 - 3.231; 2 - 1.952; 3 - 1.321; 4 - 1.029; 5 - 0.821; 6 - 0.685
You will need to disable Tuning Prohibited for any race with a Focus in it.


Test credits to @Venari @Sureboss @P057code and "some other people"
 

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I've never got into shuffle racing myself but just would like to commend you for giving those that enjoy this racing an opportunity to further enjoy it in GT6. My hats off to you @Famine well done. :bowdown:
 
That's quite nice.
This would be pretty neat as an article with the news page mostly about what films some guy has seen lately.
I'm thinking it could be an article that highlights the topic of Shuffle Racing and how it is missed. Digging around there are petitions that can be referenced for one thing.

Another interesting thing would be to make it into an app on the site. This would make the page more dynamic and provide the ability to follow statistics, primarily how many are actually doing improvised Shuffle Racing. Another advantage would be the commercial benefit of generating more page views of course.
 
That's quite nice.
This would be pretty neat as an article with the news page mostly about what films some guy has seen lately.
I'm thinking it could be an article that highlights the topic of Shuffle Racing and how it is missed. Digging around there are petitions that can be referenced for one thing.

Another interesting thing would be to make it into an app on the site. This would make the page more dynamic and provide the ability to follow statistics, primarily how many are actually doing improvised Shuffle Racing. Another advantage would be the commercial benefit of generating more page views of course.

Or "likes". :p I wouldn't be surprised if the OP turned out to be the single most "liked" post in history. :crazy: @Famine is going to be forever inundated with Alerts just due to OP alone. :lol: Again, a job well done boss. 👍 :cheers:
 
Sounds like a good concept. However, the thing I liked about Shuffle was that it was plug n play. Find a lobby, press Go To Track, & then race. It was the simplicity of it that I really liked, & the fact that I could go race whenever it suited me, day or night. Shuffle spoiled me! ;)
 
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Sounds like a good concept. However, the thing I liked about Shuffle was that it was plug n play. Find a lobby, press Go To Track, & then race. It was the simplicity of it that I really liked, & the fact that I could go race whenever it suited me, day or night. Shuffle spoiled me! ;)
Indeed - it's an alternative rather than a replacement.

But since public lobbies are a maddening experience anyway - even if the other guys aren't hackers (or rather h4xx0rs), 75% of them are griefers. This way all you need is 3+ people you're happy racing with (6+ recommended) and the same 30 cars and you can Kerfuffle whenever you want. Just stick up a Friends Only lobby with Kerfuffle in the title (I'll be checking for that this evening :lol: ), sorted.

You'll need a gamemaster, like - though that can be the host - to tell people what cars they should be in next.


One downside to the Kerfuffle is that it can't deal with late entries or dropouts - because everyone's car depends on everyone's results, if you lose someone you can't just stick them last or zero point them every race or everyone ends up in cars that are too slow and you can't put them in the middle because then they steal points and really screw up the car allocation :lol:

I might look into this in the future but it's probably beyond me. In any case it was developed for LANs and we tend not to lose people in the middle of those, short of alien abduction. Since the last one was in Wales, this remains a possibility.
 
Actually, buying, painting and oiling all the cars does take about an hour. But it's a good payoff. I promise :D

Of course you can just put 30 cars of your own choosing in there. They can be any state of tune (though enforcing that - or even actually getting people to do it right - is a bind) and any particular flavour - you'll notice our 30 are all new-to-GT6 premiums (uhh, I think there's one exception. I forget which) just because we wanted people to drive cars they won't have driven in the series before. And road cars. Yours don't have to be either.
 
Imagine this:
You create a lobby named Shuffle:GTP123
Everyone who enters the lobby also goes to a website and enters GTP123
The lobby admin will then enter the results after each race, just like he would in the excel.
Now everyone can instantly see what car they should drive.

Saves the admin having to tell everyone what to drive and management of the list becomes more transparent with a record of results open for everyone.

Whoever makes this homepage will get a ton of traffic

I see a lot of people creating more or less clever sites around different aspects of the game, free money if Shuffle Racing is actually popular.

And if it was implemented on GTP it would even be possible to gather stats of how popular the feature is. I can even imagine a toplist.
 
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