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I wonder if you guys could comment on the wheel from DD Extreme bundle. I have GT DD Pro and considering an update as well, but not sure if I should pick up DD Extreme or DD+ and keep DD Pro rim or DD+ plus another round wheel (got GT3 Endurance as 2nd wheel).

The main downsides of DD Pro wheel that I look to upgrade on are shifters (they feel cheap especially in comparison with GT3), some cracking(?) noises that I sometimes hear (and it's not QR, as I upgraded to metal QR2) and overall toyish feel.

I am struggling to find round option from Fanatec that I fully like - I prefer leather or rubber over alcantara, want magnetic paddles, metal QR2 and better overall sturdiness. Screen and RPM LED would be nice to have. Will mainly use it for rally and street cars in GT7 and PC.

  • DD Extreme wheel seems to fill most of the boxes other than plastic QR2 (which can be changed) and possibly sturdiness (based on review from Boosted Media - around 16 minutes in video). Wonder if some of you have direct comparison between it and DD Pro in terms of build quality.
  • Podium Rally Wheel seems nice, but lacks an option for RPM LED, leather rim as a bundle and shifters in some. Not quite sure about the button layout either, as I like having button easily accessible by thumb while hand is on the rim for handbrake or boost (similar to R2 on DD Pro rim) and it seems like buttons sit quite far away from the rim in this case. Small screen and it's on the expensive side as well.
  • P1 V2, CSL WRC, CSL BMW and the ones based on hubs with button clusters do not appeal to me at all. They all seem like small upgrade over DD Pro if any.
  • Clubsport RS also ticks some of the boxes, but it's only funky switches next to thumbs and the 7 segment screen makes it look dated in my opinion.

Will be grateful for sharing your opinions on any of the above or anything I missed!
 
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Totoro87
After the last update I’m suddenly able to set FOR/SPR/DPR while on Xbox. I'm looking for a better understanding of the wheel base settings. In particular FOR / SPR / DPR in relation to NDP / NFR / NIN. Now I have read the information in Fanatec's own guides and how-to's but find that information conflicting with other sources including the base's manual.

Does anyone know how these work and how to best use them? Are they additional to the in game signal or do they act as multipliers?
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My understanding, for which I’ll accept any corrections, is that the FOR/SPR/DPR are the 3 channels used by game devs to produce FFB behavior on the wheel. FOR is primary for suspension and grip, SPR is for wheel centering and DPR is for adding damping behavior

Not all games use all 3 or even 2 as centering can be done using FOR, and damping is often managed in game

So adjusting these is to change the level of that particular force contribution - sort of like tone controls on a sound system - boosting or lowering that part of the signal

NDP/NFR/NIN add to the signal being recieved

NDP is applying additional damping to the incoming signal, NFR is adding friction, making the wheel response more sluggish, and NIN is adding inertia or a weighty feeling to the wheel response.

FEI is a filter adjusting the intensity of force effects, such as impacts or suspension effects , and can only reduce, not boost
 
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peniu
I am struggling to find round option from Fanatec that I fully like - I prefer leather or rubber over alcantara, want magnetic paddles, metal QR2 and better overall sturdiness
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I would highly recommend the 320mm Clubsport RS rim. I absolutely love it and sold my formula rim as a result. I now only use this. It’s leather and round.

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ClubSport RS 320mm Leather Steering Wheel | FANATEC

FANATEC ClubSport Steering Wheel RS brings a 320mm leather rim and magnetic aluminium paddles for realistic, high-precision sim racing. Shop now.
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Weirdly I always thought this was a 330mm room but I guess it’s actually only 320mm.

Still, once you get used to it, it’s perfect.
 
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RS60NR
My understanding, for which I’ll accept any corrections, is that the FOR/SPR/DPR are the 3 channels used by game devs to produce FFB behavior on the wheel. FOR is primary for suspension and grip, SPR is for wheel centering and DPR is for adding damping behavior

Not all games use all 3 or even 2 as centering can be done using FOR, and damping is often managed in game

So adjusting these is to change the level of that particular force contribution - sort of like tone controls on a sound system - boosting or lowering that part of the signal

NDP/NFR/NIN add to the signal being recieved

NDP is applying additional damping to the incoming signal, NFR is adding friction, making the wheel response more sluggish, and NIN is adding inertia or a weighty feeling to the wheel response.

FEI is a filter adjusting the intensity of force effects, such as impacts or suspension effects , and can only reduce, not boost
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This is helpful, thank you. I got confused by Fanatec’s blog pages on FOR, SPR and DPR.

DPR as a game signal multiplier seems interesting as the console versions of ACC and EA WRC lack setting for damper that PC has.
 
peniu
DD Extreme wheel seems to fill most of the boxes other than plastic QR2 (which can be changed) and possibly sturdiness (based on review from Boosted Media - around 16 minutes in video). Wonder if some of you have direct comparison between it and DD Pro in terms of build quality.
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The GT DD Extreme steering wheel has much better magnetic shifters.
Vegan leather that feels better than the rubber on the GT DD Pro steering wheel.
The GT DD Extreme steering wheel can utilize full torque (18 Nm), unlike the GT DD Pro steering wheel, which is limited to 8 Nm.
However, it features an all-plastic construction that has some flex compared to a steering wheel like the ClubSport RS.
 
I get my new DD+ tomorrow. Transitioning from the GT DD pro, is there any relation to the DD+ settings from the GT DD pro, or do I have to start all over?

Any recommended settings for road cars and GT3?

For what it’s worth these are my current GTDD pro (8Nm) settings

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In game is:
Controller sensitivity 0
FF Max Torque 9
FF Sens 1
 
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TheNormsk
I get my new DD+ tomorrow. Transitioning from the GT DD pro, is there any relation to the DD+ settings from the GT DD pro, or do I have to start all over?

Any recommended settings for road cars and GT3?

For what it’s worth these are my current GTDD pro (8Nm) settings

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In game is:
Controller sensitivity 0
FF Max Torque 9
FF Sens 1
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Yes, they carry across ok. You may want to reduce in game max ffb to around 4, otherwise the extra 10nm of the DD+ might give you a surprise!

FEI is quite low but that’s just personal preference really.

FUL 100 might feel like too much on the + but I never experienced it on the Pro. Most seem to run it around 60.
 
TheNormsk
I get my new DD+ tomorrow. Transitioning from the GT DD pro, is there any relation to the DD+ settings from the GT DD pro, or do I have to start all over?

Any recommended settings for road cars and GT3?

For what it’s worth these are my current GTDD pro (8Nm) settings

View attachment 1568226

In game is:
Controller sensitivity 0
FF Max Torque 9
FF Sens 1
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Yes those should work ok but lower in game torque - its not linear and the high values compress anyway

Or GT7 suppports the auto A_S option on the tuning menu and its quite good, and will give you a comparison on how PD sets it up - use 4 or 5 in game torqu, sens 1 or 2

I’m using my own settings, which are similar - you can see what A_S uses by scrolling thru the tuning options and see the values and then mod from there to suit
 
Troubleshooting Throttle pedal - suddenly have jumpy and limited travel in PS and PC mode. Full pedal depression in calibration and in game (GT7) is 15-20%. Image shows maximum throttle.
Brake works normally. Pedal set has clutch removed and is roughly 3 years old. Was working about 2 weeks ago.

I just updated Fanatec base and wheel hoping that was a fix. Problem was there before firmware update.

Other recent changes are latest console and game updates.
Also installed PSVR2 and it updated. However I used this setup with same PSVR2 a year ago. (get motion sickness with VR)

Other suggestions for troubleshooting?

Has the hall sensor gone bad?

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super_gt
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I would not buy any new Fanatec product within the first year of launch. I only just got the DD+ and the wait worked out well. For pedals, given the issues they are having with these, my CSL Elite V2 will soldier on for now. I'm definitely interested in upgrading at some point, but the point is not now.
 
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TheNormsk
I would not buy any new Fanatec product within the first year of launch. I only just got the DD+ and the wait worked out well. For pedals, giving the issues they are having with these, my CSL Elite V2 will soldier on for now. I'm definitely interested in upgrading at some point, but the point is not now.
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Love my CSL DD, but things are getting a bit weird at Fanatec. Few problematic firmware updates in the last few months. Total silence from their staff in their own forums. Hope it’s temporary.
 
Totoro87
Love my CSL DD, but things are getting a bit weird at Fanatec. Few problematic firmware updates in the last few months. Total silence from their staff in their own forums. Hope it’s temporary.
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You need to visit the Fanatec Reddit channel for posts from the company on things like the app and updates and fixes. They post there frequently while for some reason mostly ignoring their own forums.
 
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Lets say you’re racing GT3s in iRacing, does the screen on a steering wheel show the exact same tire temperatures as the in-game steering wheel?

And if I were racing NASCAR, where tire temperatures aren’t shown, would I still be able to see them on the screen on my wheel?
 
Veinz
Lets say you’re racing GT3s in iRacing, does the screen on a steering wheel show the exact same tire temperatures as the in-game steering wheel?
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iRacing doesn’t share live tyre temperature data, unfortunately, so you wouldn’t be able to display them on the wheel’s screen (same goes for external DDU’s and 3rd party overlays). Something about people being able to exploit the data to create traction control cheats.
 
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Official: Fanatec’s Project Obsidian is a new sim wheel with 5” screen for 2027

Prototype wheel at the SimRacing Expo Frankfurt is a Fanatec first, with 5” built-in display under large glass panel, PC and PS5 support plus SimHub compatibility. Upon release, it will be a “ClubSport-level” product with price to match.
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  • Project Obsidian prototype sim racing wheel previews new Fanatec design language
  • 5” display, SimHub support for the first time for Fanatec
  • Slated for 2027 release
  • PC and PS5 compatible
  • Not “High-end luxury price” but a “ClubSport level product and price competitively”
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Fezzik
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Official: Fanatec’s Project Obsidian is a new sim wheel with 5” screen for 2027

Prototype wheel at the SimRacing Expo Frankfurt is a Fanatec first, with 5” built-in display under large glass panel, PC and PS5 support plus SimHub compatibility. Upon release, it will be a “ClubSport-level” product with price to match.
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Dang. On the right track but was hoping for something better. Not enough buttons and particularly thumb wheels for me. It’s great it will at least be priced reasonably, seems like. And doubly great Fanatec has finally opened it up to Simhub etc. But I’m probably gonna save up for something more premium before I upgrade to another wheel.
 
Fezzik
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Official: Fanatec’s Project Obsidian is a new sim wheel with 5” screen for 2027

Prototype wheel at the SimRacing Expo Frankfurt is a Fanatec first, with 5” built-in display under large glass panel, PC and PS5 support plus SimHub compatibility. Upon release, it will be a “ClubSport-level” product with price to match.
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I can't even get the V3 figured out. That thing would probably be a nightmare.
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I can't even get the V3 figured out. That thing would probably be a nightmare.
 
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Looking interesting. Would prefer not having piano black plastic near the middle knobs on the wheel, but otherwise opening up the ecosystem and finally proper telemetry looks promising. Hopefully they can also get the software issues sorted.
 
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Fanatec Podium Pedals Sport Now Available, 5% Off with GTPlanet Code​

Fanatec’s new Podium Pedals Sport are available to order today. At $599.99, it’s the cheapest way into Fanatec’s new flagship pedal range, and right now it’s also the only Podium Pedals configuration you can actually buy.
 
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