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[Famine]

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And you'd like to bet what on this?

 

[Weezhard]

See Senna, Ayrton

smacks of a literary reference ... i doubt anyone would quote someone name as surname, firstname unless it was in a technical paper and prefixing with the word 'See' would indicate a hyperlink to some other technical paper, web page, amateur description of said crash... all which indicate that your previous post is a cut and paste.

You made no comment regarding my dumbing down of the GT4 physics, is this because there is no on-line reference?

Now I am sure you will retort you are a 38 year old racing driver/mechanic/tune specialist and as you intimate, I cannot disprove to the contrary. Similarly, neither can you to my remark.

So, in answer to your question

And you'd like to bet what on this?

I have no interest in betting anything as I have never met you, will never meet you and have no interest in meeting you so, as such would never be able to collect said stake.

 

[Jacks]

There we go. THAT'S how a debate should go. Guy disagrees, doubts own statement and retracts in ONE post...
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Well i was hardly gonna make three different posts. Anyway as soon as i saw who i was debating against i realised i was probably wrong.

 

[Jacks]

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If theres one thing i've learnt on this forum, it is not to question Famines intelligence 👍 Welcome to GTP 👍

 

[Famine]

smacks of a literary reference ... i doubt anyone would quote someone name as surname, firstname unless it was in a technical paper and prefixing with the word 'See' would indicate a hyperlink to some other technical paper, web page, amateur description of said crash... all which indicate that your previous post is a cut and paste.

Use Google. If you can find what I posted verbatim I'd be very surprised, considering I wrote it all off the top of my head. Notwithstanding that it's all in correct English (not American English), properly spelled and correctly punctuated and, other than my "literary reference", was grammatically correct as well. Find THAT on the internet.

You made no comment regarding my dumbing down of the GT4 physics, is this because there is no on-line reference?

I made no comment because it was irrelevant. I was discussing with Jacks the relationship between ride height and top speed in F1 cars, without reference to GT4. And, since the ride height DID have an effect in GT3 I ignored it as being at least as incorrect as your earlier assertion.


Go and read some of my other posts. There's about 11,000 of them, so it may take some time. Then you'll find out who I am, what I do and how I type. Maybe then you'll stop making ridiculous snap judgements, although I doubt it.

 

[daan]

So, in answer to your question I have no interest in betting anything as I have never met you, will never meet you and have no interest in meeting you so, as such would never be able to collect said stake.

You don't need to collect "losings"....

 

[Speedy Samurai]

Apparently Weezhard has never, ever, in his whole big lifetime (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing myself to think that you have seen a few winters and have some education. How nice of me..) used someone's surname first. 'that sounds like some o dat der book learnin'

 

[Rac3rX]

Apparently Weezhard has never, ever, in his whole big lifetime (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and allowing myself to think that you have seen a few winters and have some education. How nice of me..) used someone's surname first. 'that sounds like some o dat der book learnin'

I actually agree with Weezhard, on the point about the "Copy Past" Of coarse not the whole thing, but the technical point. Let me explain, The sur name her used Weezhard might not of noticed was "Ayrton Senna". He was the F1 driver who lost control of his car when it bottomed out, he hit the wall doing 190mph and died. There are COUNTLESS publications on the web that discribe the Bernoulli effect and a HUGE chunk of them refer to the accident of Ayrton Senna. So Famin forgot to delete that out of his "Copy Past". There is no reference to Ayrton Senna in his whole post just at the end of his point "See Senna Ayrton" this is most likely a hyperling to a web page describing the crash and highlighting the point they were making about the Bernoulli effect. It makes perfect sence. Another little hint is the Sir name is mentiond first "See Senna, Ayrton" When referencing someone in conversation, its more comon to mention them by there first name first "Ayrton Senna" & "See", "See" what?

I would really like to hear Famins explination for the Reference to Senna Ayrton, in that format inside his post, with no reference to why he is mentioning his name.

 

[daan]

Use Google. If you can find what I posted verbatim I'd be very surprised, considering I wrote it all off the top of my head.

 

[Rac3rX]

You know your right, the KEY word is "Verbatim" Its pretty easy to add a word here and there and change the wording around a bit.

Im still waiting for his explination to the mentining of the name with no explination or other reference in his post.

Not getting a Google match means nothing

But your point is noted.

 

[Famine]

Errrm, what?

I was describing what happens when a car bottoms out - with no "ground effect" acting downwards against the Bernoulli effect acting upwards. I added "See Senna, Ayrton" because that's exactly what happened in his accident.

Why is this a problem?

 

[Famine]

Ze goggles do nussink!

 

[Rac3rX]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAH

I was expecting that.

Its all good on my part, I happen to agree with Famin on the Lower is faster, so lets move on.

He makes a good point on that PD might not of taken those perameters into effect, BUT I will tell everybody that in a straight line Lower is faster, whenever I shot for a Highspeed, dropping her ALWAYS speeds her up. I dont know the exact perameters of the game, but I know that much.

Rac3rX

 

[Speedy Samurai]

Is everyone here daft? I believe that the mention of Senna's name (whoa, did I just use a surname?) was applicable because it is one of the more, if not the most, famous example of the Bernoulli Effect. As Senna (surname again) was one of the most famous racing drivers of all time, by supplying that name it gives access to countless articles on him, his life, and his accident. Anyone ever read a book around here? When you look for a book, are you looking for the author's surname or his given name?

 

[Rac3rX]

Is everyone here daft? I believe that the mention of Senna's name (whoa, did I just use a surname?) was applicable because it is one of the more, if not the most, famous example of the Bernoulli Effect. As Senna (surname again) was one of the most famous racing drivers of all time, by supplying that name it gives access to countless articles on him, his life, and his accident. Anyone ever read a book around here? When you look for a book, are you looking for the author's surname or his given name?

That is exactly the point and hints twords the "Copy Past" theory.

Almost all the articles explaining the Bernoulli Effect have a hyperlink or referance to Senna. He never explained the conection of the name in the original post. I dont buy the explination, But thats just my opinion, your welcome to disagree.

 

[Famine]

Did...

Errrm, what?

I was describing what happens when a car bottoms out - with no "ground effect" acting downwards against the Bernoulli effect acting upwards. I added "See Senna, Ayrton" because that's exactly what happened in his accident.

Why is this a problem?

Still. I suppose I should be flattered that people think my off-the-cuff remarks are so intelligent they could have only come from an online encyclopaedia...

 

[Ozmac]

I'm registered at other sites by another name, but in GT3 I hold most of the Top Speed and Test Course number one times in most classes (except the F1, where I had the dreaded PAL car).

Famine's mostly close to the mark in what he says about ride heights, but not completely right.

When I tried all sorts of settings in the search for top speed, the theory of the Flying Wedge (ie, nose down, tail up) proved to be the fastest setting in at least one class (and for some non-No-1 times overall in other cars that are at least the fastest for those cars as posted). Can't come up with a theory as to why this would be so, other than probably to say I found another anomaly in the software, maybe.

However, you should see the sparky results from a fully lowered GT-One kissing the ground frequently as it scoots around Test Course at 450+ km/h on the inside line. Just like a fireworks display!