favorite F1 underdog

[nissan tuner]

my favorite would be takuma sato. untapped potential being restricted by crap racecars.

 

[Rocket Punch]

my favorite would be takuma sato. untapped potential being restricted by crap racecars.

SA might not even make it to the next race....

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Takuma Sato, shown at the Malaysian Grand Prix, is one of the Super Aguri team's drivers. The team may be done since a buyout plan has collapsed.
Formula One's Super Aguri team faces doubts about its future after a Middle East-based investment group withdrew its offer to buy the team.

"Super Aguri F1 Team confirms that it has been informed by Magma Group, the potential purchasers of the team, that its investors no longer wish to fund the intended acquisition," the team said in a statement. "It is with deep regret that [team owner] Aguri Suzuki is now forced to consider the future of the team, however negotiations with other parties continue."

The deal's collapse means that Super Aguri's participation in next weekend's Spanish Grand Prix is unlikely, unless long-time backer Honda steps up to support it enough to allow it to compete.

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source:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/FREE/354854363/1065

 

[Roo]

He drove the car that finished second in the 2004 Constructor's Championship, yet the best he could do was a single third place. I think his potential was shown that season.

I always rooted for Minardi, and few things made me happier than seeing them score a point. Now it's Super Aguri, although that might not last very much longer...

 

[nissan tuner]

He drove the car that finished second in the 2004 Constructor's Championship, yet the best he could do was a single third place. I think his potential was shown that season.

he obviously gotten better since that time. did you not watch the Canadian Grand Prix last year and think something was there?

SA might not even make it to the next race....

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Takuma Sato, shown at the Malaysian Grand Prix, is one of the Super Aguri team's drivers. The team may be done since a buyout plan has collapsed.
Formula One's Super Aguri team faces doubts about its future after a Middle East-based investment group withdrew its offer to buy the team.

"Super Aguri F1 Team confirms that it has been informed by Magma Group, the potential purchasers of the team, that its investors no longer wish to fund the intended acquisition," the team said in a statement. "It is with deep regret that [team owner] Aguri Suzuki is now forced to consider the future of the team, however negotiations with other parties continue."

The deal's collapse means that Super Aguri's participation in next weekend's Spanish Grand Prix is unlikely, unless long-time backer Honda steps up to support it enough to allow it to compete.

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source:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/FREE/354854363/1065

yeah its a shame something like that has to happen

 

[Only_in_f1]

Ive always liked Antony Davidson. Never got a race seat yet so unlcuky when he did. When he came in for Honday first lap the car broke down.

 

[Craig HP]

Super Aguri are my favourite underdog. A small team with a big spirit, possibly bigger than any of the other teams on the grid. They never give up without a fight, as shown by there determination to be on the grid for the first round of the 2006 Formula One World Championship at Bahrain, even if it meant using a car which had been sitting ina garage for 4 years gathering dust. Their determination to be on the grid for the first round of the 2008 Formula One World Championship despite their poor finacal situation, even if it meant pouring all they had left into a potentional investor. However, that investor has pulled out and their finacal situation has now gone from "poor" to "dire".

 

[mipuumal]

He drove the car that finished second in the 2004 Constructor's Championship, yet the best he could do was a single third place. I think his potential was shown that season.

He was very unlucky in 2004, I think he had 5-6 engine failures in the races. Very good in qualifying and good racepace but sometimes inconsistant and unlucky. He's definetly my underdog pick.

 

[LouTs337]

always supporting minardi & sauber, but bmw/sauber is not really underdog anymore hahaha finenaly

 

[daan]

They weren't always an underdog, especially back in the Stewart days, but I always liked Tyrrell.

Minardi too. And Zakspeed.

Brian Hart seemed to make some fairly decent engines considering the tiny budget he had.

 

[nissan tuner]

also, keep your eyes peeled on the young Williams team. Nico Rosberg & Kazuki Nakajima are looking like they might go somewhere...maybe not into the ferrari/mclaren/BMW battle for the championship but still looking better than the other teams in F1

 

[Dougboy]

Recently, it has been Vettel. He seems to be so full of potential but his race is always ruined by engine failure or accidents

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Honda for me.

If their Barcelona results are anything to go by, they're becoming competitive again.

But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[superberkut]

Yes, Honda and Takuma Sato. He shows his potential, but his car seems to be his undoing.

 

[Blake]

I always rooted for Minardi, and few things made me happier than seeing them score a point.

Minardi were brilliant. Such a small engineering team, it was amazing that they managed to survive so long into the modern era of F1. I was really sad when they had to pull out.

 

[Danny]

Arrows, Minardi and Prost.

 

[GT4 genius]

Yes I know I'm just blowing my own countries trumpet but Jordan were always my favorite underdog. And they were quite good for a few years in the late 90's they finished 3rd in the constructors in 1999 and gave Micheal Schmacer his first race in Belgium. Didnt they give Eddie Irvine, Rubens Barrachello and Fisichello their first drives or am I wrong? Also they were an extremely clever team even towards the end fighting for survival with little or no money Fisichello still managed to win that crazy Brazillian GP in the rain in I think in 2003. The best part was when Eddie Jordan had to start a fight with the officials after the race because they awarded the win to Kimi Rakkionen because of confusion over the race having to be stopped but Eddie had his evidence and McLaren had to hand the trophy over.

 

[peterjford]

Super Aguri have been my favorite underdogs lately. I am a fan of Williams, but with their history I wouldn't call them underdogs. Honda shouldn't be, but it seems that they can't get any breaks. If Super Aguri goes, maybe I can root for Toro Rosso, but they seem to have too many breaks!

 

[superberkut]

Minardi were brilliant. Such a small engineering team, it was amazing that they managed to survive so long into the modern era of F1. I was really sad when they had to pull out.

Very much agreed.

Another one would be Spyker, for me personally; the drivers were a bit strange (Marcus Winklehock?), but a good team, if not of the same calibre as Minardi.

 

[KSaiyu]

Ferrari....in the early '90s

 

[PeterJB]

Sebastian Vettel.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Takuma Sato for me. That overtaking he did on Alonso on Montreal last year just shows how very determined he and his team Super Aguri are. I mean, a Super Aguri passing a McLaren? now that's something. there was a bit of celebration and cheers in the team garage.......only to be spoiled by the pit crew......

 

[Alex.]

PeterJB has it spot on. He has the talent, maybe even that of Hamilton. Put him in a top 3 car and he will contest the championship, give him 2 years.

 

[Muzaffar]

PeterJB has it spot on. He has the talent, maybe even that of Hamilton. Put him in a top 3 car and he will contest the championship, give him 2 years.

Nah, give him a good car and he will prove who is the best.
Actually, his first F1 debut was amazing that he qualified 7th and finished 8th in the USGP. With almost 2 years of experience behind him, he should no doubt be a good competitor in the years to come. 👍

Another vote would be Adrian Sutil. He definitely shined during the last Monaco GP, and at times has shown the pace to keep up with the midfield with such a car he drives. But a lot of bad luck and some minor mistakes here and there results in his many DNF's (as well as Vettel, but I think Sutil is more unlucky) but yeah, both drivers are a worthy for a good drive in a future and even outshine even the top drivers.....

 

[Earth]

Mika Salo when he drove for Ferrari when Schumacher was hurt

I still remember very clearly how Ferrari robbed him of the German GP win by making him pull over for Eddie Irvine

Back then nobody cared about garbage moves like that. I bet they had him sign a contract that stated he could be sued if he didn't follow team orders

 

[Roo]

One of the highlights of the Monaco GP for me was a) seeing the Fastest Lap caption appear on screen with Sutil's name next to it, and b) seeing a Mclaren (Heikki's) blue flagged because he was being lapped by Sutil's Force India. Possibly a new favourite underdog for me.

 

[Blake]

I bet they had him sign a contract that stated he could be sued if he didn't follow team orders

I’m sure it would have been a breach of contract had he not let Irvine past.

However I also remember how poorly he performed in most of his other races for Ferrari.

 

[Ardius]

Yes I know I'm just blowing my own countries trumpet but Jordan were always my favorite underdog. And they were quite good for a few years in the late 90's they finished 3rd in the constructors in 1999 and gave Micheal Schmacer his first race in Belgium. Didnt they give Eddie Irvine, Rubens Barrachello and Fisichello their first drives or am I wrong? Also they were an extremely clever team even towards the end fighting for survival with little or no money Fisichello still managed to win that crazy Brazillian GP in the rain in I think in 2003. The best part was when Eddie Jordan had to start a fight with the officials after the race because they awarded the win to Kimi Rakkionen because of confusion over the race having to be stopped but Eddie had his evidence and McLaren had to hand the trophy over.

Its a pity Damon was absolute crap in Jordan, with only that one Belgium GP in 1998 being a good drive, when the rest of the field were taken out on the first lap (albeit, most were able to race again with spare cars). You could say he was almost better off at Arrows!
Still, Frentzen showed what Jordan's could do back then, that was great.

 

[GT4 genius]

Its a pity Damon was absolute crap in Jordan, with only that one Belgium GP in 1998 being a good drive, when the rest of the field were taken out on the first lap (albeit, most were able to race again with spare cars). You could say he was almost better off at Arrows!
Still, Frentzen showed what Jordan's could do back then, that was great.

I never really seen Hill as a great driver, albeit I didnt watch or know much about F1 in the early to mid nineties. I always thought it was more a case of he was in the right car at the right time in 1996, but I'm probably not giving him fair recognition. But like you said Frenzten was good, I remember one of his wins in the old Hockinheim. But they really fell down hill from 2000 onwards, E.Jordan had some row with Frenzten and that was the start of the trobble as well as money issues.

E.Jordan is still active though in the Irish WRC organisation and he's showing his greatness again because next year Ireland host the first round of the WRC. I'll be there hopefully !!

 

[Ardius]

I never really seen Hill as a great driver, albeit I didnt watch or know much about F1 in the early to mid nineties. I always thought it was more a case of he was in the right car at the right time in 1996, but I'm probably not giving him fair recognition. But like you said Frenzten was good, I remember one of his wins in the old Hockinheim. But they really fell down hill from 2000 onwards, E.Jordan had some row with Frenzten and that was the start of the trobble as well as money issues.

E.Jordan is still active though in the Irish WRC organisation and he's showing his greatness again because next year Ireland host the first round of the WRC. I'll be there hopefully !!

Well, put it this way, Hill gave himself the great car....his greatest asset was the fact he was one of the best test drivers at the time, and because he was test driver for Williams, he ended up with the best car on the grid in 1994, 1995 and 1996.
In this sense, I think its a little unfair to judge his skill with a handicap of "the best car". He did show his skill at driving when he took that Arrows to the podium at Hungary 1997! That was Arrows' only other best result (the other being also a second place early on in their constructor's life).

The main reason I reckon Damon was a bit naff with Jordan was because of his lack of determination and enthusiasm at the time. He clearly felt he had lost his touch at the time and wasn't putting the effort in. That and he was just at that time in a F1 drivers life, I mean, Mansell was a good driver, but he was pathetic at times later on in his career even though he had a good car. I also seem to remember Damon had fallen out over the team about something as well, like Frenzten.

 

[GT4 genius]

Well, put it this way, Hill gave himself the great car....his greatest asset was the fact he was one of the best test drivers at the time, and because he was test driver for Williams, he ended up with the best car on the grid in 1994, 1995 and 1996.
In this sense, I think its a little unfair to judge his skill with a handicap of "the best car". He did show his skill at driving when he took that Arrows to the podium at Hungary 1997! That was Arrows' only other best result (the other being also a second place early on in their constructor's life).

The main reason I reckon Damon was a bit naff with Jordan was because of his lack of determination and enthusiasm at the time. He clearly felt he had lost his touch at the time and wasn't putting the effort in. That and he was just at that time in a F1 drivers life, I mean, Mansell was a good driver, but he was pathetic at times later on in his career even though he had a good car. I also seem to remember Damon had fallen out over the team about something as well, like Frenzten.

I was a bit harsh but like i said I didnt watch F1 almost at all until 1999, I was a bit too young before that and even then it was thanks to a brilliant PS1 game that really got me hooked on the sport. I most read about Hill in a book I have to really understand him and Frenztens demise.