Favourite multi-class combinations?

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One of the biggest draws of Project CARS 2 for me was the inclusion of proper multi-class racing. I haven't even started a career yet because I'm having too much fun racing the Lancer Evo Time Attack or the P1 GTR against F1 GTRs and F50 GTs. In other words, Trackday A & GT1 multi-class races are absolutely brilliant. What is everyone else's favourite class combinations?
 
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I usually go for LMP1, LMP2 and GT, but I really dislike that we can't repeat one of the choices, for instance I would like to have 2 slots for GTE, but I can't so I have to choose GT3. I tried to just choose 3 classes but then you get as many LMPs as the GTEs, without 2 slots for GT we get wrong proportion between classes.
For weather slots they allow one to choose each slot individually, the same system should be implemented for class selection...

Also I dislike that I see too much repetition of a some cars and others are left out so I don't get to race against some of the cars that I would like to more often. For example in GT1, there are always a ton of F50s and most of all the other GT1 icons get usually left out, it's sad.
 
GenPattonX
Also I dislike that I see too much repetition of a some cars and others are left out so I don't get to race against some of the cars that I would like to more often. For example in GT1, there are always a ton of F50s and most of all the other GT1 icons get usually left out, it's sad.
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This is something I'd like to see implemented in a patch. When I do gt 3 races for example they're like 6 Renault but 0 ferraris. I want a close to equal amount of cars
 
Not sure about favourite MC but last night I used Road G and LMP900 around Brands Hatch Indy, that was fun.
 
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One of the biggest draws of Project CARS 2 for me was the inclusion of proper multi-class racing. I haven't even started a career yet because I'm having too much fun racing the Lancer Evo Time Attack or the P1 GTR against F1 GTRs and F50 GTs. In other words, Trackday A & GT1 multi-class races are absolutely brilliant. What is everyone else's favourite class combinations?
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This might be handy. :)

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...ecreating-real-life-multi-class-championships
 
GenPattonX
I usually go for LMP1, LMP2 and GT, but I really dislike that we can't repeat one of the choices, for instance I would like to have 2 slots for GTE, but I can't so I have to choose GT3. I tried to just choose 3 classes but then you get as many LMPs as the GTEs, without 2 slots for GT we get wrong proportion between classes.
For weather slots they allow one to choose each slot individually, the same system should be implemented for class selection...

Also I dislike that I see too much repetition of a some cars and others are left out so I don't get to race against some of the cars that I would like to more often. For example in GT1, there are always a ton of F50s and most of all the other GT1 icons get usually left out, it's sad.
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I have no idea why this was introduced as a design choice, it's so poor.
 
GenPattonX
I usually go for LMP1, LMP2 and GT, but I really dislike that we can't repeat one of the choices, for instance I would like to have 2 slots for GTE, but I can't so I have to choose GT3. I tried to just choose 3 classes but then you get as many LMPs as the GTEs, without 2 slots for GT we get wrong proportion between classes.
For weather slots they allow one to choose each slot individually, the same system should be implemented for class selection...

Also I dislike that I see too much repetition of a some cars and others are left out so I don't get to race against some of the cars that I would like to more often. For example in GT1, there are always a ton of F50s and most of all the other GT1 icons get usually left out, it's sad.
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A quick way around this would be to adjust the ratio of opponents in the classes you choose. SMS please make it happen. :rolleyes:
 
Elitekilla29
Please suggest some. I plan on running a lot of muti class races on this game.:)
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-Road D vs GT3 is like road cars vs their race car variants.
-RS01 Trophy vs Super Trofeo is close. Lambo has a bit more power but a decent weight gap. Should be interesting.
-Formula Ford vs Formula Rookie is pretty even.
-GT1 vs LMP900 seems close by the numbers but aero is different.
 
Sorry for the double post but it's been hours since the last one...

First off, the R.S.01 is a blast to drive. I thought it wasn't that great in PC1, a bit too twitchy maybe but this time it's perfect right out of the box. It has ABS and TC so ABS is on high and TC on low. Default settings.

I just spent tonight driving the Renault R.S.01 as the top class in some long races. Set number of laps to be around 24 minutes with mandatory pit stop and time x60 to do a full day/night cycle. Classes were R.S.01/Megane Trophy /TC1 Clio Cup at Le Mans Bugatti. I wanted a French Festival with Renault lol. It was great and we hit multiple groups of back markers in the second half of the race.

Then I switched out the Megane for GT4 for visual variety, the Clio for GT5, and we to Silverstone. Beautiful transitions. You have to know you have a clean line through the esses and if you don't you better be sure you know where you're overtake or back off.

Next was Nurburgring GP. I had a crash after my pit stop on lap 10/14 but there were more back markers and I was able to catch back up and take back my lead on the last lap. Really funny thing was all through the race I was able to go side by side, sometimes three wide and it would get sorted out by the apex. I made the pass for the lead out of Turn 2 and on the run out of the Schumacher S I was on the right side and I hear the spotter say "1 length back" so I look back and he's coming up on me fast. I'm about to turn in and he doesn't budge. We rub and then he backs out and stays 1-2 car lengths back until the end. I started laughing thinking the AI increases on the last lap to get some mad dashes to the finish hahaha
 
GenPattonX
I usually go for LMP1, LMP2 and GT, but I really dislike that we can't repeat one of the choices, for instance I would like to have 2 slots for GTE, but I can't so I have to choose GT3. I tried to just choose 3 classes but then you get as many LMPs as the GTEs, without 2 slots for GT we get wrong proportion between classes.
For weather slots they allow one to choose each slot individually, the same system should be implemented for class selection...

Also I dislike that I see too much repetition of a some cars and others are left out so I don't get to race against some of the cars that I would like to more often. For example in GT1, there are always a ton of F50s and most of all the other GT1 icons get usually left out, it's sad.
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I share your concerns about class diversity as well. It´s always one car which is very dominant. If I recreate the late 90s Le Mans Races with LMP900, GT1 and GTO as a Substitute for GT2/GTS, ist always a ton of 333SPs and CLK GTR LMs. Every time.

What I am most after is authenticity. The class combinations of my favorite eras are there but the diversity is yet to be improved. Hopefully a patch in the future will bring it. Ian Bell posted yesterday somewhere that the next patch comes in "days".
 
The Lamborghini Super Trofeo and Renault RS01 have almost the exact same power-to-weight ratio. I'm simply dividing weight by power. Two other close classes are the beginner open-wheelers.

Formula Ford vs Formula Rookie
Lotus Type 25 vs Formula C

Both are almost perfectly even. In both situations the modern car has one extra gear over the classic, and slick tires instead of grooves, but the classics are a bit lighter or slightly more power so it evens out.
 
Elitekilla29
Please suggest some. I plan on running a lot of muti class races on this game.:)
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I final managed to get multi class to work on my PS4 (I had been doing it wrong!)

I suggest you try these: GTC + GTD = both 1950's cars (Merc 300 SL and Aston Martin DBR1/300)
Group 4 + Group 5 (Group 4 = BMW M1 Pro Car - IRL this was also raced as a Group 5 car and it is much more enjoyable to drive than the Group 5's in the game).
Group 5 + Group 6 = (group 6 Le Mans cars from Renault and Porsche + Group 5 silhouettes some of which raced together IRL)
Group 4 + Group 5 + Group 6
Group 4 +Group 6
GTA + GTB = Ferrari Daytona, Nissan 240 ZG, Chevrolet Camaro, Jaguar E Type V12 (bonus car) + Escort RS1600, BMW 2002 SW, Merc AMG 6.8.

The GTA is the real "problem" class in the game because it's the least realistic (Could be fixed by splitting GTA into SA for saloon so the Camaro and future Trans Am saloons could be separated from the GT's) - In real life the Camaro (and Mustang) raced against the Escort and Capri in BTCC and ETCC. The Ferrari Daytona didn't race against any of those cars - its opposition, in the World Sports Car Championship was the De Tomaso Pantera GT4, Porsche 911 RSR and Corvette C3 L88, but it also raced with the BMW 3.0 CSL and the Capri RS2600 at Le Mans. The E Type V12 raced in the SCCA against the Corvette C3 L46 and Porsche 911.

Some great racing is possible by (sometimes) suspending belief and playing with the AI levels and opting for the slower of the classes.

I haven't yet tried GT1 with LMP900, but that would be worth a go - The Ferrari 333SP had a long racing life (1994 through 1999) so you should be able to find cars / classes to race against with that one.

Edit just tried GT1 (Panoz Esperante) with LMP900 and that is great - they are closer in performance in the game as in real life than the current GT3 or E with LMP. The Panoz sounds awesome - best sounding car in the game!

Hopefully with the DLC - especially the Ferrari, Porsche and Le Mans Legends packs it will open up the possibilities for multi class racing - especially if the Fun pack also contains useful cars such as a classic Mini to go against the Escort.
 
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The other problem with GT A is, there are no other Pony cars('69 or '70 Mustang, Challenger, Javelin, Firebird) to go against the Camaro.

We also can't use the BMW 2002 turbo in GT B or '66 Mustang(A Shelby would be nice for GT A) in GT B.

I'm hoping for some in DLC. As well as an Alfa GTV, Mini and Datsun 510. GT A would be awesome with a bigger field.
 
05XR8
The other problem with GT A is, there are no other Pony cars('69 or '70 Mustang, Challenger, Javelin, Firebird) to go against the Camaro.

We also can't use the BMW 2002 turbo in GT B or '66 Mustang(A Shelby would be nice for GT A) in GT B.

I'm hoping for some in DLC. As well as an Alfa GTV, Mini and Datsun 510. GT A would be awesome with a bigger field.
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Agreed.

I'm very disappointed with some of the historic classes - The Ferrari Daytona is a great choice because of its very long racing life and class victories at Le Mans, but there is nothing to go with it (Porsche 911 RSR, De Tomaso GT4, Corvette C3 L88 etc) and a Trans Am Camaro doesn't fit with it at all. The Camaro as a minimum needs a 69 or 70 Mustang as you have suggested. If the Camaro was put in a new class e.g. SA - for saloon, the GT classes could be reserved for GT cars and the Historic saloons go into SA, SB, SC - Trans Am level cars would go in SA, the current GTB cars would go in SB and things like classic Minis, Hillman Imps, Renault 8 Gordinis could go in SC. Datsun 510 could be SB or SC, but ideally you would have a minium of 3 or 4 cars in each class. It is very disappointing what has happened to the BMW 2002 Turbo - that made for some great racing, but now its lost all its race numbers. I would have much preferred that the 2002 and 1967 Mustang were made into race cars. I only want to race cars which have race numbers. Having the 2002 enabled me to plan multi-class online races. I will be doing that in future with the Camaro v the GTB cars, but unfortunately if I opt to fill empty grid slots with AI I will get unwanted Ferrari's and Datsuns on the grid!

LMP900 v GT1 was great by the way - strongly recommend everyone to try that - just remember if switching from LMP900 to GT1 to greatly increase your braking distances - best to try it the other way round first!
 
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I haven't actually tried it yet, but GT4 and TC are on my list of things to get around to. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close to the IMSA Continental Tire Sports Car Challange series.

LMP2, GTE, and GT3 is bang in for the Weathertek series, we have lots of the tracks for it now too (fingers crossed for Mosport!)
 
I Started to race P1 GTR vs 1 GT3 vs 1 GT4 vs 1 GTE :)

overall just 4 cars :D

With the GTR reduce in power almost like a GT3 car

Other then that combination i really don't do anything else but drive the GTR :D
 
twitcher
I haven't actually tried it yet, but GT4 and TC are on my list of things to get around to. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close to the IMSA Continental Tire Sports Car Challange series.

LMP2, GTE, and GT3 is bang in for the Weathertek series, we have lots of the tracks for it now too (fingers crossed for Mosport!)
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It's a shame we don't have current spec LMP2 WEC HP which is ~600. That would make them more like the DPi's. Right now an LMP2 with 480HP is kind of even with the GT3 cars because they have ABS to go deep into brake zones and more power to pull out of the turns.
 
Did a one hour race at Donnington. Renault Clio cup cars and Renault Megane Trophy V6’s.

That was great fun. I was using a Clio. Figured a slower car would be a easy way to familiarize myself with the games physics and controls. The only thing not great, was the fact that the faster AI cars weren’t very careful when overtaking slower cars. I got booted of the track a couple of times.
 
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Did a one hour race at Donnington. Renault Clio cup cars and Renault Megane Trophy V6’s.

That was great fun. I was using a Clio. Figured a slower car would be a easy way to familiarize myself with the games physics and controls. The only thing not great, was the fact that the faster AI cars weren’t very careful when overtaking slower cars. I got booted of the track a couple of times.
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Try messing with the AI aggression setting. Turning it down may stop that from happening.
 
Well, I tried GT4 and TC at Leguna Seca, 25 minute race. AI on 60/80. I did a rolling start with formation lap, myself starting last in class in a Mustang RTR.

I got dropped off the start, but gradually clawed my way back to the field, then picked my way through. Overall, the pace was pretty good from the AI, ideally I probably could have used a few more clicks of difficulty. Same issues as other tracks though, they were really fast through Rainie Curve, really slow exiting T6 and T11, not the most realistic racing. Overall, not bad though.

However, the TC lappery was disappointing, or rather, none existant. After 20+ minutes, the lead TC car was less than 30 seconds off the race lead. Maybe I need to adjust some settings, but I was disappointed that the pace difference between GT4 and TC wasn't larger.

I realize it's because TC isn't a perfect representation of the CTSCC ST class, it's actually quite over powered for that role. 2 solutions I can think of.

1. Add more Touring Cars to the game, and seperate them into 3 caragories. TC1 for the Clio, along with Mazda 2, Chevy Volt, Ford Fiesta, etc. TC2, a new class comprised of an MX5, BMW 2 Series Clubsport, Porsche Cayman, Mini Cooper, Honda Civic, Nissan Altima, etc. Finally, rename the existing TC class to TC3.

2. Add an option to adjust the skill level of each class individually for multiclass races.


Option 2 seems more realistic, by I've got my finger's crossed for option 1, @The_American :sly:
 
Are there any real world series that have GT3 and GT4 cars on track at the same time?

WEC is LMP1 - LMP2 - GTE
European Le Mans Series is LMP2 - LMP3 - GTE
24H Series is split up to two schedules, one for prototypes and one for touring cars
IMSA is LMP2 - LMP3 - GTE - GT3 (I use LMP900 instead since they have the ~600HP figure
Continental is GT4 - Touring Cars of sorts
Pirelli World Challenge is a lot of things but no GT3 and GT4 together right?
 
I'm surprised to see there aren't more VLN Servers up online. I've not seen even one. Seems to me this would be extremely popular.

Track:
Nurburgring Combined

Classes:
GT3, GT4, TC and then either GT5, Clio Cup, Megane Trophy or whatever else you want to pick.
 
I really enjoy RS01 Trophy, GTE, GT3 and Super Tropheo at Algarve. The only problem is my engine blows often after only three or four laps. :ouch:

GT3 vs Track Day B is fun to watch the R34 Skyline go up against other GT racing cars. It reminds me of Polyphony's original Skyline touring car.

One that really surprised me was GT3, Group 6, LMP3 and Road A at Texas Motor Speedway's road course. AI set to 50 skill and 40 agression. It plays better than it sounds, trust me.
 
DesertPenguin09
Are there any real world series that have GT3 and GT4 cars on track at the same time?

WEC is LMP1 - LMP2 - GTE
European Le Mans Series is LMP2 - LMP3 - GTE
24H Series is split up to two schedules, one for prototypes and one for touring cars
IMSA is LMP2 - LMP3 - GTE - GT3 (I use LMP900 instead since they have the ~600HP figure
Continental is GT4 - Touring Cars of sorts
Pirelli World Challenge is a lot of things but no GT3 and GT4 together right?
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Super Taikyu have EIGHT classes:

-GT3
-GT4
-TCR
-AWD production cars(Evo, WRX)
-Micro hatches(Fit, Mazda 2, etc)
-Roadster, S2000, 86
-RWD/FWD Passenger cars(by engine size: 370Z, Mark X, Mazda3 Skyactic-D, Lexus IS)
-RWD sports cars(Z4, Lamborghini, Carrera Cup)
 

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