Ferrari again

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cobragt
Live, what would you do if the tgs gt4 trailer has ingame footage of a Enzo on the Le mans and a CarreraGT on the Nurb? I would completely pass out, I'd have to get 4 new pair of pants


ONLY 4??????
 
Whatever happens people aren't gonna be 100% happy anyhow, even *** IF *** Porsche or Ferrari are included in GT4. There will still be people that complain that a certain model was missing and the would have rather of had the ~insert year~ ~insert model~ ~insert variation~.

I don't know what people will expect *** IF *** they are included anyhow!!! I'm sure that Ferrari will insist that the 'mods' made to their cars in-game will be limited, the likes of air filters, suspension mods, maybe competition gearbox for selected models. Enzo Ferrari himself is on record before he died in stating (or in effect) "a Ferrari's engine doesn't need improvements, it's a perfect engine in itself"

Porsche *should* give a little more option, as most models have been raced competitively at some stage.

My personal view is I'd be ABSOLUTELY RAPT if they happened to be in GT4, if not it doesn't matter, because I know I'm going to, and most for you are going to, keep buying every advancement in console (i.e. PS3, PS4) and game version (i.e. GT5, GT5 F/P Spec, GT6) until they do, even then I'll prolly just keep buying them then too...
 
Lamborghini please almighty PD, I wanna throw a Gallardo around the ring or even a Murcielago Barchetta, yeah now that would be sweet !!
 
hellnback
Porsche *should* give a little more option, as most models have been raced competitively at some stage.

...i think all models (cayanne, carrera GT and boxter apart) have raced competitively at some stage!
 
I think the Boxster has had a few competitive races somewhere along the line... and no doubt the Carrera GT will do soon as well...

The Cayanne isn't a porsche... much like the same way Robocop 3 isn't a Robocop film.

C.
 
The Cayanne isn't a porsche... much like the same way Robocop 3 isn't a Robocop film
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Sacrilege! Comparing Porsches with Robocop.
Check out these JGTC racing Boxster pics. You have to love that championship….
 
Samberto
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Sacrilege! Comparing Porsches with Robocop.
Check out these JGTC racing Boxster pics. You have to love that championship….

I was more drawing parellels rather than comparing...

C.
 
isn't GT4 going to include a history of cars or racing?
If so it should include pics of Ferraris, Porsches and Lambi's at least.
 
yeti
I think the Boxster has had a few competitive races somewhere along the line... and no doubt the Carrera GT will do soon as well...

The Cayanne isn't a porsche... much like the same way Robocop 3 isn't a Robocop film.

C.

I stand corrected!

i wonder how long it is before someone does the Paris-Dakar in a Cayanne?


...best place for them in my opinion - stuck in the middle of nowhere, so the won't offend my eyes or my motoring morals any more

i doubt anyone will seriously compete in a Carrera GT - are Hollywood studio execs or property speculators interested in motorsport?
 
cobragt
Live, what would you do if the tgs gt4 trailer has ingame footage of a Enzo on the Le mans and a CarreraGT on the Nurb? I would completely pass out, I'd have to get 4 new pair of pants
If that happens then I'd watch you soil your pants, it would make me want GT4 even more not that I don't want it enough already.
 
Can't PD put racing porsches and ferrari in, like the ones which just look like them but are actually totally custom built.......my example being the nomad diablo...its not really a lambo at all! but at least it made in into the Japanese version of GT3...so why can't PD put them in again...somthing like a mines porsche that not actaully a porsche,......if you get what im saying!
 
robin2223
Can't PD put racing porsches and ferrari in, like the ones which just look like them but are actually totally custom built.......my example being the nomad diablo...its not really a lambo at all! but at least it made in into the Japanese version of GT3...so why can't PD put them in again...somthing like a mines porsche that not actaully a porsche,......if you get what im saying!

We have RUFs do we not, in many cases they are better than an actula stock Porsche.
 
^ I suppose yeah.....but is there any ferrari equivalent......like a custom built one that is not technically a ferrari???
 
The racing cars still have Ferrari's badge and name on them, so no they can't be used. Theres one or two exeptions to this like the Prodrive 550 which technically isn't a Ferrari, but then you can still run into trouble because the shape of a car car be patented too, so you'd need a license to create a replica. It goes beyond me but pretty much everything is covered, if you can think of it, I'm sure the guys at PD have, and if they haven't used that method then they more than likely can't.
 
Great idea Robin ;)
But that would ruin the game for some reason...
Example...many of you (I think) would think...it's fun to drive them but
it would be funnier to drive the real ones.



;)
 
I discovered recently that Midnight Club 3 will have Lamborghinis. If Gran Turismo 4 doesn't have any, I might have to kill somebody.
 
Where the **** are all you guys (and girls) getting all this "GT4 doesn't have Ferrari" **** from? I honestly don't understand. And guess what? I think GT4 DOES have Ferrari (and Lamborghini and Porsche for that matter), and it's not because of any photos of PD testing them that's got me like this. One thing is proof enough. Burnout 3. Look at the car roster. Notice anything? NO FERRARIS, NO LAMBORGHINIS, AND NO PORSCHES!!! Now, don't get me wrong, I understand that neither of the other Burnouts had any licensed rides in them. I get that. I also get that the big reason that Burnout didn't have any was because of funding, and Burnout 2 didn't have any because EA had NFS: HP2 already. No need for competition with two of their own games. However, there is no new Hot Pursuit coming out this year (unforturnately), so you'd think that Burnout 3 would fill in the void of having licensed exotic rides available for major speed and carnage. But it doesn't. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Burnout 3 (hell, I'm gonna get the damn thing soon enough), but I find the fact that it doesn't have any licensed rides, Ferrari in particular, in there a bit odd. A LOT odd. For quite some time now, EA has, until recently, had atleast one racing game with licensed exotics in there since, like 2000 or something for every year. This year they have none. And it isn't because of money issues. A $20 billion+ company doesn't have to worry about that. They DO, however, have to worry about having a licensing agreement for putting, say, Ferraris and the such in a game, and that's exactly what EA DOESN'T have. They don't have the Ferrari licensing agreement. And they MIGHT not have the Lamborghini and Porshce licensing agreements either. And let's face it. You can't really do an arcade racer with ANY licensed cars these days without those three because it'll look wrong or uncool (minus exceptions such as Burnout 3, of course). So there you have it. Looking at all that stuff, Burnout 3 in particular alone, I have a feeling that we'll all be driving that super-exclusive Enzo, that georgous Gallardo roadster, or that magnificent Carrera GT in GT4 once it hits our streets. That's about it.
 
Burnout will never use licensed cars, your argument is flawed. We get the "GT4 won't have Ferraris" "****" because KY has said himself, GT4 will not have Ferrari's. Burnout represents cars in vastly different way to NFS, and no manufacter like Ferrari or Porsche would agree to have their cars in it. Your whole argument is based on the fact that Burnout doesn't have Ferrari's and that theres no new NFS with exotics coming out, that means **** all, it's who has the license that matters and if PD can't get it, they can't get it, has nothing to do with Burnout 3.
 
Well, a big problem for companies trying to get licenses from Ferrari and Porsche has been the damage. I somehow doubt that either company would have jumped at having their cars in a game that uses crashes as its biggest feature.
 
The licences are now up for grabs, that much is true, many a dev studio could be working on a game using these cars and go for the licence when they become available as the exclusive licence is no more, car manufacturers can make more money licencing their brand and products to several than a large sum for just one.
 
live4speed
Burnout will never use licensed cars, your argument is flawed. We get the "GT4 won't have Ferraris" "****" because KY has said himself, GT4 will not have Ferrari's. Burnout represents cars in vastly different way to NFS, and no manufacter like Ferrari or Porsche would agree to have their cars in it. Your whole argument is based on the fact that Burnout doesn't have Ferrari's and that theres no new NFS with exotics coming out, that means **** all, it's who has the license that matters and if PD can't get it, they can't get it, has nothing to do with Burnout 3.

:sly: I still stand next the my statement. What I was trying the say is that it's pretty much a proven fact that EA tries the put some exotics such as Ferrari in atleast ONE of their racing games every year. The fact that they don't have THAT game this year, and that Burnout 3, being the best possibility of being THAT game, doesn't have 'em in there is speakin' volumes. Agree or disagree, this whole fiasco has me believing that Ferrari WILL be in GT4. Remember now, that whole thing of KY saying they wouldn't be in was WAY back at E3 this year. E3 and November are quite some time apart. Enough for a change of ways. And he said that he'd try EXTREMELY hard the get Ferrari in GT4. And that's why I've said what I've just said. Later. :sly:
 
You forget that alot of car companies do not like their cars to get completely mangled in a video game. Yes alot of games now feature damage with licensed cars but in the burnout series the damage anddeformation is really something, I woudn't be surprised if you could snap the car in half in Burnout 3! I really dont think that porsche ferrari and lamborghini would like to be represented in that way.
Any way that's my opinion on why burnout 3 has no licensed cars but getting back to GT4 I think i'd prefer not to know if they are in or not. Hopefully we will find out out more info on release date at TGS and *fingers crossed* i'tll sstill be on track for November/christmas release. It seems like the end is in sight and i want to be surprised by a Ferrari 360CS and 911 GT3, to save dissapointed im not expecting them and do believe at this point that they are not in until we officially here otherwise.
 
jjboi
:sly: I still stand next the my statement. What I was trying the say is that it's pretty much a proven fact that EA tries the put some exotics such as Ferrari in atleast ONE of their racing games every year. The fact that they don't have THAT game this year, and that Burnout 3, being the best possibility of being THAT game, doesn't have 'em in there is speakin' volumes. Agree or disagree, this whole fiasco has me believing that Ferrari WILL be in GT4. Remember now, that whole thing of KY saying they wouldn't be in was WAY back at E3 this year. E3 and November are quite some time apart. Enough for a change of ways. And he said that he'd try EXTREMELY hard the get Ferrari in GT4. And that's why I've said what I've just said. Later. :sly:
Feel free to stand by your statement, but your statment is very flawed, first off Burnout will NEVER include licensed cars, none wil want to be in it, secondly Burnout 3 was not made by EA, only published by EA. EA don't decide everything that goes in, sure they can help and submit ideas ect, but they didn'tmake Burnout 3, Criteron did. As for EA game including Ferrari's, they did but EA don't hold the licenses anymore, hence the no-ferrari's in any NFS games. Feel free to continue sticking to that statement, but it's pure dross.
 
EA only picked up Burnout 3 when it was like 80% done, so they didn't have a whole lot of influence on the development.

Even if EA was completely behind Burnout 3 from the beginning, there wouldn't be any licensed cars at all, as Live said. I don't think Ferrari and Porsche would, or ever will, appreciate people using their cars as battering rams, cruise missiles, and/or bombs.

EA hasn't been using their Ferrari license lately because they're just being a bunch of ****tards.
 
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