FGTWC; B-speccable?

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I was wondering, with a FGT, can Bill win the championship?
Maybe by using the 0 degree camber trick?

I'll explain; the opposition will pit every 12-13 laps at Motegi super speedway, but when you change the camber of your car, you can do stints of around 30 laps!

Will this be enough of an advantage for Bill?

Thanks in advance,

Maas.
 
Camber trick? What are you talking about, man? Never heard of that one.
 
Well, I'm calling it the camber trick, but I'll explain even more:

When you leave the car standard, default settings, Bill, or Bob, as you will, will do around 13 laps per set of tyres.
But, when you change the rear wheel camber to 0 degrees, he will do around 30 laps per set of tyres.
So I'm told.
Haven't tested it yet though...
Cause first I'm B-speccing the 24h Nurburgring just to get a FGT.

Have I explained it thoroughly enough?
Please tell,

Maas.
 
Hmmm...I don't know about that. I would like to see some other's explanation whether the "camber trick" even works, or if it's just hodgepodge you read over at some goofball website.

Personally, I haven't B-speced the GTWC or the 24-hour races, but I'm sure the right car could certainly do it. The "camber trick" sounds fishy to me. Don't believe everything you read.
 
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As far as theory goes, the lower the camber angle, the longer the tires will endure. I would not be so sure about the "30 laps stints". In fact, I would even say that is bull:censored:
 
Okay, well I red it on this forum, Parnelli. :)

I will look for the theory again,

Maas

Edit: FOUND IT
Look for post #2 in the thread F1 championship in the subforum GT4 race reports.

Sorry, but I can't post links since an iPod touch can't copy/paste anything.
 
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I have seen in the forums that lowering the camber on the FGT would be the standard thing to do. Because the default set-up of the FGT is terrible for tyre life.

It's not really a trick, just changing the original set-up
 
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I have seen in the forums that lowering the camber on the FGT would be the standard thing to do. Because the default set-up of the FGT is terrible for tyre life.

It's not really a trick, just changing the original set-up
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Yea, but 30 laps of tire life?
 
Hey, Parnelli, I'm just telling you what I've heard, I thought it was kinda unlikely too, but I will check it out soon.
 
Are we talking about the GTWC in B-Spec? If so, I've done it with, IIRC, the Black GT-One. It wasn't terrily easy, judging by several pages of notes, but not terribly difficult either. I think it came down to tyre choice and pit strategy.

Here's a semi-related question re B-Spec: is the best way to race to take off the 'overtake' function in order to draft properly, then turn it back on when you have a chance to pass? Otherwise Bob the idiot will just bump into the back of cars with the 'overtake' function on, and will hardly pass a car without it. I used B-Spec cause I was working at the time and could ony check it every hour or so, so couldn't test the theory.

I'm not at home at the moment, but can type out my notes in a week or so if needed, but you should be able to get through without them.
 
PF
Are we talking about the GTWC in B-Spec? If so, I've done it with, IIRC, the Black GT-One. It wasn't terrily easy, judging by several pages of notes, but not terribly difficult either. I think it came down to tyre choice and pit strategy....
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No, The GTWC is in the Professional Hall. This is about the FGT World Championship.
You know (or may not), the championship with 15 races, that will be
60 laps - Tokyo Route 246
127 laps - Twin Ring Motegi (Super Speedway)
74 laps - New York
77 laps - High-Speed Ring
62 laps - Grand Valley Speedway
23 laps - Circuit de la Sarthe I
78 laps - Cote d' Azur
113 laps - Seoul Central
76 laps - Infineon Raceway (Sports Car Course)
85 laps - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
64 laps - Twin Ring Motegi (Road Course)
15 laps - Nurburgring Nordschleife
64 laps - El Capitan
67 laps - Fuji Speedway 2005
53 laps - Suzuka Circuit

The only AI competition you will have is 5 other Formula Gran Turismo '01 (the car that looks like formula one cars).
And on the Pal version you win 1st: $ 100,000 2nd: $ 25,000 3rd: $ 10,000 4th: $ 5,000 5th: $ 2,000 6th: $ 1,000

Championship Winning Prize: $ 3,000,000 and a 1989 Mercedes-Benz Sauber C9 Race Car


However, to B-spec this (FGT-WC) you can (reasonably) easy do this with a B-Spec driver with a skill level of 6500 or more.
Ideally you would want more skill than that, but this could do it with some management.

If and When I B-spec I always have the overtake ON. Other wise I might forget to put it back on and end up last.
 
Well thank you for explaining to these people what I.m talking about, cool of you.

I think I'm gonne A-spec this most races, since there are a lot of tracks wich I love.
 
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No, The GTWC is in the Professional Hall. This is about the FGT World Championship.
You know (or may not) ...
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Thanks mate, I didn't actually know that, well spotted. BTw, wouldn't you have to run the engine down to get this on 200 Aspec, in addition to ballast and tyres etc? That level of dedication messes with my mind.

Good luck to one and all
 
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Yes 30 laps could be possible, but you would not be competitive and would probably be 5 laps down by the time you pitted.
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...which means it's pretty much useless to try and go for 30 laps, camber trick or no camber trick.
 
PF
Thanks mate, I didn't actually know that, well spotted. BTw, wouldn't you have to run the engine down to get this on 200 Aspec, in addition to ballast and tyres etc? That level of dedication messes with my mind.

Good luck to one and all
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The fact that the FGT car does not suffer engine wear and you cannot change the R3 tyres for any other form.

What you do need to do to get 200 points in this series is either:
1) Use an FGT and lower the downforce and add ballast
or
2) Use a different car like the Mazda 787b, Audi R8 or Pescalaro or even a Chapparel 2J.
If you go to this thread in 200 point forum you can see many hints on how to do this event for 200 points.
 
Thanks again Open Addict. Although I'm unlikely to use the advice - as you can probably tell I rarely use anything other than a road car, RJ's exquisite 787B being the exception - I appreciate the intent and am sure others will use it.
 
I wonder if the op meant toe? The toe of the FGT is set to -6 to help turn the car. If you turn it to 0 the tires point straight relative to eachother. On the super speedway, turning at full speed with a -6 toe wear the inside tire very quickly. Moving toe to 0 lengthens tire life at the expense of rotating the car through the turns. I cant remember if it was 30 laps, but the last time I a-spec ed it I could go for much longer than the other cars.
 
Yes, you're right, Sean. The posters here probably meant toe, which is indeed set extremely high at default, as you said. Lowering the default camber on the FGT would have much less effect than lowering the default toe, simply because the camber value isn't as extreme.
 

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