FiA GT championship "points judgement" should be adjusted

[VFOURMAX1]

look at it like racing in real life. Slower players race in slower divisions, faster players race in faster divisions.

But in real life the racers in the lower divisions are not racing against the racers in the higher divisions to determine their finishing positions or series points and championship standings.

So why should lower level players within the game be expected to compete on an even basis with racers several classes above them in skills?

Basically DR ranking is equivalent to different divisions of different skill levels. A DR C level racer should be able to compete against a DR C level racer to determine his finishing position in a race.

He should not be racing against a DR A skill level racer that realistically he has no chance to compete with or even stay in sight of on the track to determine his finishing position and number of points received for the race results.

I am also a firm believer in that although having points to track the level within DR levels and to keep up with current progress toward advancement to the next DR level that once a racer achieves a certain DR level that he should not be ablr to regress back to a lower DR level.

Just like in most sports once you turn pro your amateur days of participating in that sport are over.

Yes SR levels should adjust by your driving habits or as a result of the number of incidents on track due to lack of control or contact,

But DR is a skillset that once you exhibit the ability to race at a certain level then you should be kept competing at that level. Allowing fluctuation of DR to go back down the ranks to get easier wins or race lesser capable competition should not be allowed and in my opinion is one of the problems Sport mode is currently dealing with.

 

[Cornpuffs26]

Not sure if anything can be done to have a ‘perfect’ system. I’m floating around 45/50k dr. I can easily get to 60k+ if I only race my top 3 tracks with gr4. I can wait till the perfect race, get 60k+ dr, and profit in the fia races if they change the system and give more points to higher rank, even if I get last place.
Maybe some of these high ranking guys already do that, maybe they are great on 3/4 tracks and really should be lower rank but they don’t do races they feel weak on. So the fia races come around and they get a bad finish...just sayin...there’s no easy fix but it’s not bad

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Maybe some of these high ranking guys already do that, maybe they are great on 3/4 tracks and really should be lower rank but they don’t do races they feel weak on.

All drivers have their favorite tracks where the layout or the flow just seems to fit their racing or driving style where they excel.

The majority of drivers (I will not say all but I sure there would be very few left out) also have tracks where they do not like the layout or the flow and the track just seems to be a problem in them getting a top time on it.

Daily races it is easy to wait for the track and car combos that you feel are your strong suites and avoid those where you may be weaker or the tracks layout may make it more risky for incidents which could affect your SR and DR rankings.

Championships generally run on a series of tracks and in most you will run on tracks that some may favor what you like and car combo while others may be more of a struggle for either your driving or cars characteristics .

The very best of the drivers skill wise will figure out how to adapt the best as possible and minimize what damage the circuit they may feel weaker on and still usually pull out a respectable finish and good amount of points to the championship.

Less skilled drivers will not adapt to their weaker tracks as well as a rule and finish lower and give up more points than the really good guys.

There is a lot of difference in a driver that can be fast only on his pet track with his pet car versus the one that will adapt and still give a top shelf type of performance on whatever track they are running.

The latter are the great A+ (S) drivers and they will be the ones that 9.9 times out of 10 will be the ones that wins the championship and hoist the trophy!

 

[DriftMethod]

But DR is a skillset that once you exhibit the ability to race at a certain level then you should be kept competing at that level. Allowing fluctuation of DR to go back down the ranks to get easier wins or race lesser capable competition should not be allowed and in my opinion is one of the problems Sport mode is currently dealing with.

With driving aids, it's much harder to determine a true skillset. As well as what others mentioned about only competing in races with your favorite car/track. For now, I think it has to allow DR to decrease. Otherwise matchmaking won't work, especially in the FIA races that require adaptability.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

With driving aids, it's much harder to determine a true skillset. As well as what others mentioned about only competing in races with your favorite car/track. For now, I think it has to allow DR to decrease. Otherwise matchmaking won't work, especially in the FIA races that require adaptability.

I am one that does not believe in the driver aids above a "beginner" level or DR C ranking and was glad to see the FIA championships not allow them other than TCS or ABS.

As this omission in the aids for the FIA races should set a precedent of what should be allowed in the higher ranks I would like to see that only DR C and DR D would be allowed to use all available aids and advancement to DR B and above would not be allowed until a certain amount of points had been earned in DR C without the aids engaged.

As far being sure a driver is ready being a game there is no way to be positive but manipulation of the DR rankings is a problem in Sport mode including A level drivers that just tank the rankings to garner easier wins against lesser competition and by doing so is not really fair to the true lower ranked drivers.

Again this should eliminate the aids giving a false sense of skills that allow a driver to advance before they are actually ready. I really feel that the SR ranking can still remove those drivers that do not meet the skills to drive in a clean incident free manner from the top ranks and a lower SR ranking will allow a borderline skills driver to practice and improve in an environment where the environment is more forgiving of a mistake or contact.

Matchmaking has been really bad for a long time and more emphasis needs to be placed on DR and Q times for the matchmaking process.

No racer should be allowed to enter any race without posting a q time. To control Q sandbagging any lap that during the race exceeds your posted q time should then become your q time on that daily race for the remainder of the day.

Matchmaking will only work when the grids are properly matched and the times are close between P1- P20. 20+ second time differences will not cut it for Matchmaking to be considered to be working properly.

 

[Sharkart_Kun]

I'm in a position where I could go to one of the live events, and sometimes my scores do rely on having a good lobby.
In the pre-season, for example, I couldn't join the best lobbies(third for nations and fourth for mans.) because that would mean that my best result would give me 1200 points. However in any of the other lobbies I could fight for a podium and 1700~1900 points. Only on the first race which I won 2100 points a similar performance would give me the same on the best lobby.

So I've been avoiding the top lobby because of that, but I'm sure that the people that got 1200~1600 on those top lobbies should be in front of me in the championship, and they aren't. They should be contesting a position in the live events, but they aren't...

The result after the pre-season is that the lobbies are now more evened out, maybe they got fairer after the pre-season. Who knows?

(This is my experience in the american region)

 

[DriftMethod]

I am one that does not believe in the driver aids above a "beginner" level or DR C ranking and was glad to see the FIA championships not allow them other than TCS or ABS.

As this omission in the aids for the FIA races should set a precedent of what should be allowed in the higher ranks I would like to see that only DR C and DR D would be allowed to use all available aids and advancement to DR B and above would not be allowed until a certain amount of points had been earned in DR C without the aids engaged.

As far being sure a driver is ready being a game there is no way to be positive but manipulation of the DR rankings is a problem in Sport mode including A level drivers that just tank the rankings to garner easier wins against lesser competition and by doing so is not really fair to the true lower ranked drivers.

Again this should eliminate the aids giving a false sense of skills that allow a driver to advance before they are actually ready. I really feel that the SR ranking can still remove those drivers that do not meet the skills to drive in a clean incident free manner from the top ranks and a lower SR ranking will allow a borderline skills driver to practice and improve in an environment where the environment is more forgiving of a mistake or contact.

Matchmaking has been really bad for a long time and more emphasis needs to be placed on DR and Q times for the matchmaking process.

No racer should be allowed to enter any race without posting a q time. To control Q sandbagging any lap that during the race exceeds your posted q time should then become your q time on that daily race for the remainder of the day.

Matchmaking will only work when the grids are properly matched and the times are close between P1- P20. 20+ second time differences will not cut it for Matchmaking to be considered to be working properly.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree with you on a lot of those points. This does go quite far off topic of the FIA points system, so trying to take a step back here...

The DR system works in the sense that people relying on the aids that aren't allowed in the FIA races will naturally start losing DR points in the FIA races and quickly fall into lower rated rooms. Of course they can build DR back up in the daily races, but will get slaughtered in the more competitive FIA races and take up the extremely low points values that the last few drivers in each room get. That actually helps solve the problem of getting very little points in the higher rated rooms vs doing well in a lower room and getting more points.